Talk:Kinana ibn al-Rabi
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It's really sad to see that this article has been written(copy-pasted) from only one source (which is a Jewish encyclopedia by the way). More references must have been given to cross-check the facts since this is a religious article which may offend a lot of people throughout the world.
- Reference to al-Tabari:
He is erroneously confounded by Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari with Kinanah ibn Rabi, the brother-in-law of Mohammed's wife Zaynab bint Khuzayma.
Wrong. Kinanah ibn Rabi is the brother-in-law of Prophet's daughter Zaynab, not his wife's. The writers of the encyclopedia must have done an error in that sentence. Sorry but I haven't yet checked al-Tabari's book. Will do later.
- The murder of Mahmud bin Mesleme was not told which clearly shows that the referenced encyclopedia has some neutrality problems.
- The actual name of the Jewish leader is Kinana Ibn Al-Rabi Ibn Al-Huqayq. Using it as Kinanah ibn al-Rabi will lead to errors as in the example above.
I have given the references that were in my bookshelf. Will try to check the other books since this is a extensively studied topic; lots of references around which may have not been indexed by Google yet :) --Right1 01:56, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Having multiple sources is good but we shouldn't be so worried about offending people. Thanks for the contribution and providing another source on this topic.Comatose51 03:45, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- I don't see any source for the proposed changes. Jewish Encyclopedia is far from perfect, but better than original research. Pecher Talk 09:16, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I agree that the artcle is pov, as for accuracy, i leave it to the above editor. --Striver 19:50, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- That's not an argument. Pecher Talk 19:51, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- PEACHER!!! Will you quite removing genuin taggings?! The tone of the article is clearly anti-islamic. Im not going to fight regarding the accuracy, since its nothing i know anything about, but the tone is obviously anti-Islamic. --Striver 23:02, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] torture
the torture story is unreliable. please read
http://www.authenticsunnah.org/sami_zaatri/rebuttal_to_silas_4.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unixer (talk • contribs)
- What is unreliable is this website. Pecher Talk 20:18, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
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Arrow740 wrote "Ibn Ishaq via Ibn Hisham is viewed as a good source for history, if not for other things, by Muslim scholars."[1]. Arrow740, I would like to disagree, to my knowledge, there are several stories in that collection that Sunni's do not appreciate, although i don't have anything on top of my head. peace.--Striver 13:18, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- Arrow740 your latest revert has referred to Kinana as "Ma malakat aymanukum"!! You know that only applies to women?Bless sins 19:55, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
- That's not true. Arrow740 20:16, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
- Yes it is. The quran says men have have intercourse with Ma malakat aymanukum. It obviously refers to women.Bless sins 20:30, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
- The Quran isn't the best written book in the world. Look at the article on mma. Arrow740 04:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Arrow740, MMA is a Quranic/Islamic concept. look at the article on MMA now that I removed unsourced statements.Bless sins 21:11, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- The Quran isn't the best written book in the world. Look at the article on mma. Arrow740 04:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Yes it is. The quran says men have have intercourse with Ma malakat aymanukum. It obviously refers to women.Bless sins 20:30, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
- That's not true. Arrow740 20:16, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Arrow740, what prorblem do you have with the material I added quite some time ago? It is sourced to reliable sources. Please justify your edits.Bless sins 04:04, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
