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Cleaned it up a bit and added Mike Quill as a former famous resident. My great-grandparents are from the village, and Mike Quill stayed with them when he first came to the US.

Somebody is removing the fact that Jackie Healy Rae is from Kilgarvan, this is the second time it has happened and I will be forced to take action if it happens again. 26/Feb/2007

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[edit] Jackie Healy Rae

I have once again reverted an edit that had removed Jackie Healy Rae from the item. This one was by 87.41.9.65 . Can any sysop block this user as it has happened before, without any valid reason. The information is correct and Jackie Healy Rae is noteworthy enough to be included.--Dmol 16:37, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Politics

"Although Kilgarvan is centrally located between Kenmare and Killarney it suffers from many problems, Kilgarvan has no Broadband access severely hindering business and education. Littering has become an increasing problem as has parking. Kilgarvan does not have a public car park nor does it have public toilets. Street Lighting is inadequate in parts of the village and the existing pavements are poorly maintained. The roadway through the village forms part of the R569 regional road from Kenmare to Poulgorm Bridge. The village road surface is in a third world shape and development traffic and articulated lorries often create traffic jams in the Village. Despite many promises from John O'Donoghue TD the road surface remains dangerous particularly in the centre of the Village by the old Graveyard."

This is pure politics.

[edit] RE: Politics

Kilgarvan has alot of major infrastructural problems which I have highlighted. John O'Donoghue made alot of promises to Kilgarvan and have failed in every single one and this deserves highlighting. I don't care if even President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad came in and did something; To say it is pure politics only harks of begrudgery and ignorance. It is fact that Kilgarvan has suffered alot in the last few years and my aim here is to highlight that issue (and the other positives) in this article and I firmly believe in keeping this article in line with common sense and that is exactly how it is structured.

"John O'Donoghue made alot of promises to Kilgarvan and have failed in every single one and this deserves highlighting." This is your political opinion and doesn't belong in an encyclopedic article. Look, I agree with you on many of these points, but this is supposed to be an encyclopedic article and not a political soapbox.

I am totally against soapboxing however I do not want the truth of the article chopped at the expensive of neutrality. However if it can be worded differently to put across a similar message albeit "less politicised". I will try re-write the the paragraph to suit better, I re-iterate I am totally committed to Wikipedia and this article must be kept as close to the wiki guidelines as possible, perhaps a more experienced editor could be drafted in for a few mins to rewrite the paragraph. I will submit my rewritten paragraph here first in the coming days for analogy.--Netwhizkid 18:51, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] POV, etc.

I have restored the various tags. In the next few days, I'm going to yank a whole bunch of material as unsourced and/or POV. If you would like to restore any of it, please feel free to do so, provided you include citations to reliable sources. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 14:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

A few notes on my most recent edits:
"The sustainability of these prices are questionable since Kilgarvan has no permanent fixed industry.South East Kerry Settlements Draft Local Area Plan - Kilgarvan" The source supplied supports half of that: "Kilgarvan has no permanent fixed industry." The rest is synthesis or original research.
"As a result of the plant's age, raw sewerage is regularly discharged into the Roughty River." The source cited says no such thing.
"The sewerage situation has thrown some of Kilgarvan's proposed housing developments into doubt until a new plant is built." The source cited does not say that, rather, "According to the Kerry County Council, the lack of sufficient sewage treatment will be 'a constraint on development in the village' until a new plant is completed."
I am not finished with the article, by any means. There is still a lot to review and I'm sure some additional sources will have to come in.
Mdsummermsw (talk) 17:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)