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[edit] Quote From NK / DPRK Source
I found the quote in a book I was reading today at the library. I don't know why I sometimes see 2 citation/references when I used only one ref tag so if you see what went wrong please correct it. I also removed the part that said that they turn the lights on to make the village appear to be inhabited. Given how little we know about the intentions of the Korean People's Army I thought that was a bit speculative. Similarly, I took out the word 'automatically' for the simple reason that we don't know how the lights are turned on and off and given the power shortages in the country it seems unlikely that they'd be automated. kev. 22:37, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing the reference tag MadMaxDog kev. 10:24, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Chun Doo-hwan and capture the In-gong Gi
Can we get a citation here about Chun offering the reward 'in the late 70s'? Chun wasn't president of the Republic of Korea until 1980.
That bit was here when I got here and I haven't been able to find any external confirmation--however, you have a point about the date discrepancy. I'm going to remove it. kev.
[edit] Kijong-dong / Peace Village
Thanks Yu210148 for the links on "Peace Village". I deleted the first one, since it's a Wikipedia mirror on about.com. The third is the only one that says "Kijong-dong" actually means "Peace Village" in Korean, and I suspect that's just a misunderstanding on the part of the tour guide or the visitor. Googling for Korean web sites, I find some references to Kijong-dong being called a 평화의 마을, P'yŏnghwaŭi maŭl / Pyeonghwa-eui maeul, which does mean "peace village." But Kijong-dong itself doesn't obviously mean "Peace Village" in Korea (hard to tell what it actually means without knowing the hanja). --Reuben 00:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Good catch. I've flagged this as needing hanja, though I don't hold out much hope. At any rate, "Peace Village" is clearly more in the nature of a nickname, rather like "자유의 마을" for Daeseong-dong. -- Visviva 01:39, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Fair enough, sorry about that mirror, I didn't have much time to cross reference the sources yesterday morning. You're quite right, the impression that I got was that it was a nick name rather than a translation of the Korean. :) I'm not sure why the quote got paraphrased though. Even if the source is from the north it seems more authoritative to have the full quote than a paraphrase of the quote. Perhaps I should have made it clearer that the book was published in the north though. Something like this... <scurries off to make an edit> kev. 11:37, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
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- You might be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea/DPRK, where we're working on creating and fleshing out articles about places in North Korea. --Reuben 18:40, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Thanks Ruben, I'll certainly think about it I don't know how much time I'd be able to put into it though. If you can get your hands on a copy of that guidebook that's referenced in this article I seem to remember information on all sorts of areas in the DPRK/NK. I'll probably buy a copy at some point myself; the copy I read was in a reference library here (i.e., no circulation). kev. 11:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
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- The quote looks fine to me now; it just seemed a little strange to have it at the beginning of a paragraph. Thanks for the work you've put in here. -- Visviva 12:04, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
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- True enough, it's not the most gramatically correct thing to do is it? I also changed it from 'North Korean Publications' because it was only one publication. I haven't run across anything else from the north that confirms or denies what's said there. I'll keep my eyes open though. I do wonder about the use of 'North Korea' vs. 'north Korea'. I don't want to get in to a big debate like what's on the discussion page for the artical on 'North Korea' but the perfered use in the north is the latter and seeing as this is an article about a place in the north it would seem to me that the 'n' should be lower-case. What is the concensus on this if there is one? kev. 12:47, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Photo Gallery
Cool pictures Isaac. Thanks for posting them. The wide shot really shows just how massive the flagpole really is. If anyone has pictures of the place taken from the north's DMZ tour that the wouldn't mind sharing that'd be cool. It's my understanding that you don't get up close and personal with the place on either DMZ tour but some different angled shots might be interesting. kev. 11:25, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Flagpole warfare (깃대 전쟁)
I've added a 'citation needed' tag to the bit at the end the end of the article about 'flagpole warfare' after I did a quick and admitedly far from comprehensive search and didn't come up with any relivant hits on either 'flagpole warfare' or '깃대 전쟁'. Would it perhaps be more accurate to say that some people it the south call it flagpole warfare?
- If you think these are not relevant enough, feel free to change or remove it. Wikipeditor 06:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Great, thanks I just added the reference tag. I hope I didn't come across too aggressively earlier I just hadn't seen it called that earlier. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yu210148 (talk • contribs) 13:26, 3 December 2006 (UTC).
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- Thank you. You didn't seem agressive at all – contrariwise, I was afraid I might have sounded rude :) Wikipeditor 18:24, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Not at all. Now this bot... the bot is rude. One little unsigned comment. I forget to put the '~'s in and this thing comes in here like Rambo! (See above, or the history on this discussion page.) --P.S. I know I can just edit the bot's remarks out but it wouldn't be as funny that way. :) kev. 11:24, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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- 2 seconds – a quick bot indeed. Wikipeditor 15:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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This article is inconsistent with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Demilitarized_Zone. The weight of the flag differs by ~134kg, or a nearly 50%.Maybe someone keen can find the real weight or just change both articles to 1 weight.--64.230.6.145 00:43, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'll have a look at this later today and see if I can get clarification. kev. 10:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Okay, seeing as the weight of the flag is not mentioned in the CNN article that's been cited for the height of the flag pole and the weight of the flag isn't cited at all in the article on the Korean Demilitarized Zone I'm going to remove the reference to the weight in both articles. kev. 13:55, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Administrative position
Could this be an actual dong within 평화리 (which at least appears on a map)? Wikipeditor 06:21, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Not in the administrative sense; the tong/dong in North Korea are equivalent in standing to ri, as tertiary divisions. Dong in this context, I think, is just a village, the Sino-Korean equivalent of 마을. This use of dong is fairly common in both Koreas, I think; down the road from me is a little hamlet called 남포동, part of a ri unit, which no one would ever confuse with Nampo-dong. And there's another little clump of houses that calls itself 금호마을 on one sign and 금호동 on another.
- Should we get rid of the hyphen? -- Visviva 07:52, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply. Perhaps that would avoid confusion, but since the hyphen is not strictly reserved for administrative units and personal names with McCune-Reischauer, I'm fine with leaving it in place. Wikipeditor 11:42, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
