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[edit] anthracite coal

Hi and thanks for fighting the spam on anthracite coal. The spamming editor has been warned and given a short block to think about as he was spamming other articles also. Cheers, Vsmith 11:06, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. Khukri (talk . contribs) 11:46, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your VandalProof Application

Dear Khukri,

Thank you for applying for VandalProof! (VP). As you may know, VP is a very powerful program, and in fact with the new 1.1 version release it has even more power. As such we must uphold strict protocols before approving a new applicant. Regretfully, I have chosen to decline your application at this time. The reason for this is that unfortunately you do not yet meet the 250 mainspace edit requirement. Please note it is nothing personal by any means, and we certainly welcome you to apply again in the not too distant future. Thank you for your interest in VandalProof. - Glen TC (Stollery) 14:06, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Coupe des Nations 1930

Hi Khukri!

Thank you for helping.

Regards, gabute

[edit] Do not delete the stephen morgenstern page!

Why would you delete this page, it is simply my wish for my friend to be exposed to the rest of the world (casting directors) as an aspiring actor. Also, you have a page on his step-cousin, Bryn Macauley (the voice actress/actress), and it hasn't been deleted, so what's wrong with this one? Also, if you look, Stephen has had an agent and been in a Canadian tire commercial, so he can be considered a young actor (he is 12 years old). Please do not delete the Stephen Morgensten article, it IS encyclopedia material because it has information on an actor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.217.119.166 (talk • contribs)

Please do not delete DB tags on the Stephen Morgenstern page without justification or discussion. If you wish to justify the page please use {{hangon}} and leave a comment on the talk page. An problems please don't hesitate to leave me a message. Khukri (talk . contribs) 14:32, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stephen Morgenstern - Don't delete

If you don't consider the Stephen Morgenstern article a prope article for wikipedia, what can you consider a proper article for Wikipedia.

Wikipedia is a Web-based, free-content encyclopedia written collaboratively by volunteers and sponsored by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation. It has editions in roughly 200 different languages (about 100 of which are active) and contains entries both on traditional encyclopedic topics and on almanac, gazetteer, and current events topics. Its purpose is to create and distribute a free international encyclopedia in as many languages as possible. ...

If you want to expand your database, you should have as much information as possible, on anything. And what's wrong with adding one more puny little article about one puny little actor. Wikipedia told me that if I wrote an article about my friend, my article would be accepted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.217.119.166 (talk • contribs)

1) If you don't mind I'll delete your comments from the article itself and move them to the talk page. Done
2) If you could be so kind as to always add ~~~~ to the end of your comments that signs it so everyone can see when you added them.
3) I won't be deleting anything, I put the tag on the page as I believe the subject albeit important to you may not be of interest to many. Please this isn't meant in anyway at all as criticism, but could you imagine if everyone who had been on TV in anyform had an article, wikipedia would be buried in minutes. I've been on TV on numerous occasions but certainly don't think I deserve an article. One small article for you would be millions in the end.
You put in your comments 'one aim of this article is for exposure to casting directors', sorry but IMHO wikipedia is not to gain personal exposure. An admin will have a look soon enough, leave your reasons on the talk page, and I'm sure if the article is justified it will be kept. All the best Khukri (talk . contribs) 14:59, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re 207.x.x.x IP

Hi. I don't fancy range blocks. However, if that persists, i'll definitely do it. Cheers -- Szvest 10:14, 26 June 2006 (UTC) Wiki me up™

There are no good options to take as 207.200.64.0 – 207.200.127.255 is an AOL IP range! We have to avoid collateral damage. -- Szvest 10:23, 26 June 2006 (UTC) Wiki me up™
The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Good for you. I'll have to offer you this barnstar for combatting bastards. -- Szvest 10:29, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
No worries. Where in the UK? Wiki me up™
Keep up the good work mate and be ready for the adminship soon. I couldn't nominate you as your editcountitis is still low. I asked you about your whereabouts as i spent around 2 years in Manchester. Cheers -- Szvest 11:53, 26 June 2006 (UTC) Wiki me up™

[edit] Es! En!

Seriously, whoever it is has been at it for a few days. I've seen you catching quite a few of those edits, and you have my thanks as well. Luna Santin 10:54, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Same from me, they've been at it for at least a week. User:Lupin/Anti-vandal tool's Recent IP tools, plus Firefox = easy to combat. Just load up the Recent IP edits page, wait for it to refresh, and hit rollback (in Firefox, it'll open in a new tab). Fun stuff. Keep it up! --james // bornhj (talk) 11:03, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Adminship

Yeah, if I did get a mop, anti-vandalism would be what I'd use it for the most. CAT:CSD also seems to get backlogged at times and I've speedy tagged quite a few articles. I might bring it up again with Szvest in a couple of months, after I go tackle some Category:Wikipedia backlog. Cheers. (P.S. Yeah, you're right - we did get lucky ;) ) --james // bornhj (talk) 12:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Khukri! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. —Xyrael / 19:34, 26 June 2006 (UTC) 19:34, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You have no sense of realism.

These guys trying to recreate the conditions of Earth a long time ago, back when life formed, are not as good as God. Adam and Eve might have been the first true Humans did you not think of that, after the earlier life forms leading up to Homo Sap. The theory of Intelligent Design is a very sound one and cannot be challenged. Accept it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.165.79.110 (talk • contribs)

You have me completely mistaken, I unlike many round here do not edit Wikipedia with my personal beliefs in mind.
Lets have a look at what you wrote "This is because they can't compare to God, they just can't."
1) First of all the sub heading is talking about a Hypothesis and it's testing methods. No mention of God there.
2) Your text is POV for this topic, there are many theist articles on wikipedia where you may be more suited to contribute.
3) Your text is not of the same quailty as the sub-paragraph as it is your conclusion on the material.
So in conclusion, please feel free to edit any article, but I would suggest keeping it NPOV. Think of it the other way, how upset would you be if someone went round deleting every article about god or religeon, because they believed it doesn't exist? There are many different opinions out there, respect other ideas please.
Please feel free to leave a message on my talk but would you be so kind as to follow it up with ~~~~.
Regards Khukri (talk . contribs) 21:12, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism warning

Khukri said: My bad sorry

Don't worry about it. Was there someone else you had meant to send the warning to? If so, have they received it? Hopefully everything is sorted. Bobo. 21:44, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Khukri said: Yea sorry about that, have just been let lose with VP, and being use to popups had a teething screwup.

Ah! Good old technology! Vandalproof can be a very useful tool, hopefully you can get it to work for you in the future. Bobo. 21:49, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Re: Vandalism Warning

I didn't do it! Okay, so you clicked at a bad time with VP, and caught the wrong person. Cheers! --Porqin 16:39, 27 June 2006 (UTC)



[edit] User:219.91.203.71

Clearing the issue

Hello, are u paid to edit wiki? how many $ per hour? Anyway, was not aware of the grave seriousness of the user page which is after all the users page! also, there was no explicit warning written on that message by Pifactorial!! Saw nothing wrong in deleting that. Was a little pissed off by the word vandalism. Further I am deleting both your "warnings" because I just now realize as a newbie that some people do take these things seriously even though most bi or multilateral issues are usually biased and routinely changed according to the POV of the dominant identity of the contributor, and as a newbie I can inform you, the guardian angel of wiki that I wont use my editing FUN (it was light hearted fun about how India kicked Paki ass after Pak attacked India in the first place, lol) on serious articles because people take this stuff a little too seriously!!! I do appreciate (more now) the efforts of people trying to seriously make wiki a place of serious integrity. Hope this clears this issue. Peace. And with that understanding I am cleaning off my user page to keep it as a clean clear page. Peace. Actually, this is the first time, just right now, I noticed these features and checked them out!!! Need to chill more. Anyway, bye. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.91.203.71 (talk • contribs)

Further

If I register now, what about earlier references to my IP? Will the user page and all the other stuff be clean and clear? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.91.203.71‎ (talk • contribs)


My response after the initial warning I gave, it's subsequent removal and to his/her comments above. [1]
Khukri (talk . contribs) 15:32, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


What nonsense you people perpetrate

Excuse me? What was racist about anything I posted especially about the Indo-Pak war???!!! Wiki should rein people like you in coz you are straining too much at the leashes. Maybe you should grow up a little, especially in the intellect department, to atleast identify what is racist and what isnt. Bye moron. And who gives WARNINGS to people like you and bans them for calling others racist and vandals? Maybe racists and vandals like you who are vandalizing peoples user pages should be banned!!! Power does make some people mad. Vandals like you should have their so called powers removed immediately for you to become sensible again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.91.203.71 (talk • contribs)

If you are going to leave any comments on a page and would like a serious discussion then could you sign your comments with ~~~~. You may disagree with what I have written, that is your perogative, but leave off the personal attacks and hissy fits, it will only get you blocked. Right, now lets have a look at some of your previous edits eh?
"Pakistan is a terrorist state worse than Afghanistan."
"Pakistan will never change its evil terrorist designs even after repeated humiliations at the hands of Indians."
"But USA and the world continue to overlook it because if the puppet lap dog dictator...."
"....were forced to run away by India along with severe scolding by Pakistani dogs master...."
Now in all honesty do these really look like a critical eye has been passed over the subject, do you not think they they have even the slightest hint of POV?
Having looked at what you have written here and in some of your later edits shows you can write coherently. I know these edits were a few weeks ago, and you have since given worthwhile contributions but this all stemmed from removal of warnings on your talk page. Please remember Wikipedia tries to represent a global perspective, not just an Indian one. If you wish to seriously add this rhetoric to an article, discuss it on the relevant talk pages and achieve consensus but don't just go charging in adding what you think is right to the article please. Rgds Khukri (talk . contribs) 00:06, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] (empty heading)

my older sister thought it would be funny to frick up the pages when i went to go use the bathroom and take a shower SORRY —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.26.93.96 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Vagina

The message you sent regarding vagina was in fact sent from a proxy . We are at a university .. and hence many users have a common ip ,, or maybe it is dynamic.. However messaging to this ip doesn't ensure that the message is recieved by the concerned vandal , as there are as many as 5000 students in the university..

I too strongly condemn the act of amking such nonsensical changes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.197.115.38 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Pliopithecus

Hello Khukri,

I see you reverted by edit on the Pliopithecus page, however I have two sources stating that the family Pliopithecidae does indeed belong in the superfamily Hominoidea. First is the Marshall Illustrated Encyclopedia of Dinosaurs and Prehistoric Animals by Dr. Douglas Palmer and Prof. Barry Cox (ISBN 3-8290-6747-X), a very good encyclopedia on prehistoric vertebrates. Next is the Paleobiology Database[2]. This database is edited by university professors and institutions, mostly from the University of California (Santa Barbara), and also pretty up-to-date (there is already a Tiktaalik entry[3] while this creature's discovery and description were announced publically in April 2006).

I was going to ask you why you called my edit an 'experiment', but your second message cleared that up. No hard feelings! Jerkov 20:43, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

It's not a joke, but it was incorrect anyways. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:47, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Slight reprieve

I guess that's the one problem with having super-vigilant/super-fast editors/admins/bots looking out for vandals. If someone truly vandalizes by accident, they are not given much of a chance to revert their own edits (I think both of our reverts on that kid came < 10 seconds after the offensive edits!) Seidenstud 00:49, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Reporting User:TomPhil

I assume this was a mistake, so I removed it from the WP:AIV. If I am wrong, please feel free to readd him. --Porqin 11:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you!

Thank you very much for the revert on my userpage. :) Regards -- Banes 16:06, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Poor Show

There was no nonsense uttered. Pure fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.139.255 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Per 219.91.203.71

I've actually been keeping track of your correspondence. He's definitely been troublesome, but I'm holding out hope that he's not unintelligent, but simply misinformed. I posted him a comment trying to explain the situation. If this keeps up much longer, we're going to have to take further action to put an end to it once and for all. --π! 19:12, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uh.

I can't clear my own old discussion? Thanks for being on top of things with good ol' 69.250.94.172...

The message from Richard Cavell is NOT AN OFFICIAL WARNING, it is a DISCUSSION WITH A WIKIPEDIA MEMBER and I believe I am within my rights to edit it. Please advise if I am not -- the unrelated warning below it remains. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.250.94.172 (talk • contribs)

[edit] A Thank you

Don't mention the counter vandalism. Just got Vandal Fighter today and noticed you were a hotbed... take care. Galactor213 23:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tiger Smith

Hi, just a quick question: why did you revert this edit? Seems to be perfectly sensible to me (the IP editor changed the debut and last dates because they were wrong). Sam Vimes 15:18, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

No probs! Just be a bit more careful with that program, it's powerful ;) Sam Vimes 15:31, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 71.224.24.99 16:46, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

That's ok, I know him.

[edit] Wolfn...

It was a joke! Plus, how do you know it's not true, and I actually know it to be true? Please put back my changes, I did not vandalize. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.75.187.245 (talk • contribs)

Sorry wikipedia is not your personal joke box, and if your idea of a joke is leaving racist comments, the please go elsewhere. Khukri (talk . contribs) 00:06, 5 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Shirley Crabtree

I removed the wording from the first para as (1) it contradicts the info in the "Trivia" section ; (2) it is arguably not so relevant that it should be included in the initial info on the wrestler; and (3) it is misspelled ("recod-breaking").

Sorry, your edit looked like deletion vandalism for a couple of reasons. You deleted as well as the fact one of the brackets ] around the previous link so looked like you'd just come in and deleted it with no thought. Also there was no comment added to your edit. By all means re-do it but please add a comment when you do an edit, also I recommend getting yourself a wikipedia account. Cheers Khukri (talk . contribs) 09:18, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] David Firth's Forehead

It's not nonsense mate, pack it in please. This is a known fact and I've been personally asked by David himself to put it on Wikipedia, ok? Good. Now run along, nothing to see here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.29.42.182 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Sorry

About the Ark thing. Yeah, sorry man. I've just been reading up a little too much on the problems in the middle east. Im just feeling a bit hot-headed. The wait of the world on my shoulders, etc. My best friend and housemate is a post-graduate of Modern Middle-Eastern History at Manchester University and I keep getting bombarded by infomation. You know most of his teaching faculty are Israeli and 50% of the students were Arabic, along with a few Israelis. He'd take out books from the library and large paragraphs were scribbled out with notes down the side saying stuff like "This is not true because...". Grr. Im just an angry bunny. —Preceding unsigned comment added by False messiah uk (talk • contribs)

No problems at all, I have an intent dislike for intolerance as well, but just realise though that your comments are exactly the same as those that wind you up. Anyway all's well that ends well. Cheers Khukri (talk . contribs) 08:05, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
If you saw a personal attack in my response to False messiah, you are seeing things that aren't there. You are chiding the wrong person, and it is not appreciated. - Nunh-huh 10:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalbot

Yes, it's definitely that same vandalbot; I remember seeing it several times in the last few months. Adds a few typos, usually hits the same article several times before moving on.

I can range-block for a short time (I don't like blocking AOL ranges for more than a few minutes, though some of our fellow admins have a heavier hand). Antandrus (talk) 22:16, 26 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Arsene Wenger Vandal

What exactly do you mean by this?

Please refrain from adding nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to Arsène Wenger. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Khukri (talk . contribs) 20:13, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

are you aware of the changes I made to this page? please review and apologise Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.181.247.6 (talk • contribs)

You must have reverted the vandalism, just before I hit the rollback button in Vandal Proof, I'll delete the warning from your talk. It's a problem with vandal proof every now and then this happens. Cheers and sorry Khukri (talk . contribs) 20:30, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 144.122.30.134

I'd like know the reason of reverting my talk page. I'm using static ip and i'd like to have only the recent talk messages in my talk page in order to check it more easily. 144.122.30.134

Thanks for your message. Normal wiki rules are that one cannot delete warnings off our talk pages as it's a guide to our conduct. Two points, if you're on a static IP create a login to make yourself more easily identifiable takes two seconds, or if you do not wish to do this, create an archive page and cut and paste your message to archive as I have done above. Cheers Khukri (talk . contribs) 12:06, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
I already have an account and happy with it, but up to yesterday i had problem (it's a long story if you're interested in i can explain in detail), Alex Bakharev told me this was related with the bug in the wikisoftware. I removed old messages, cause whenever i logout i see "you have a message warning" although there is nothing new. I want use e104421 talk page, not the one related with my ip. I removed it as 144.122.30.134 in order to prevent misunderstanding. That's reason of removal. e104421 13:12, 30 August 2006 (UCT)
OK, don't know about this bug will throwing it over to an archive page not work? Cheers Khukri (talk . contribs) 13:20, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
i'm a new user and just started learning wikipedia user pages. I do not know how to create an archive page. I'll try to learn. e104421 13:25, 30 August 2006 (UCT)
Copy paste this link into your browser then save, bad-a-bing one archive page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:E104421/archive . Khukri (talk . contribs) 13:34, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
OK. Thank you very much. Apologizing for your pains e104421 13:35, 30 August 2006 (UCT)
Done! I created an archive page for my e104421 account and also (in order to prevent "you have a new message" warning after all log out) for 144.122.30.134. I removed all the old messages to the archive. Is it ok? Could you check them up? in order to prevent any conflict. e104421 15:37, 30 August 2006 (UCT)


OK all looks good now. I have you on watch so any probs I'll see them. Cheers and have fun. Khukri (talk . contribs) 17:00, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

  • 144.122.30.134/e104421 is a new user who happend to have a raw start. First he was blocked for blanking article that later seemed to be the Google bar bug, then he was blocked for the 3RR violation as an IP and as the registered user, both blocks expired but for some reason the autoblock stayed for a while even after this... Cutting the long story short, I do not object if the User will remove the messages from his talk page and started from a clean list (sort of) abakharev 21:24, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] LOL!

Oh, boy, after reading your message on my talk page, I burst out laughing - I got this image of myself as a sniper during the Vietnam conflict!! It sounds really morbid, but if you saw me, you'd know why it's funny - I'm not a tough guy (well, girl, really) at all and three quarters of what I'm wearing is pink. Thanks for the laugh (and the consideration) - I'll leave both, though, since the IP did actually blank his talk page three times. Hehe. I'm still giggling... Srose (talk) 19:03, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Off I go again, into a tizzy of random laughter - good thing it's only my cats and I! Nope, I'm not a Lieutenant - err, admin - yet, but I sure do hope to be one some day, sir! :) Srose (talk) 19:09, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
The Barnstar of Good Humor
I, Lieutenant (just kidding!)Srose, award this barnstar to Khukri for his hilarious comments on my talk page, and for not laughing at the goofy aspects of my personality. :) Srose (talk) 19:20, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
  • When I go up for RFA, I certainly will let you know - is your email enabled? When my record and I go on display, though, I expect you'll look at me as more than a Wikifriend. I hope you'll scrutinize my record as much as everyone else will. :) And hey, when you're ready to go for adminship, let me know if you need a nominator. ;) Srose (talk) 19:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Yes, that's true... I try to split my time between working on articles and fighting vandalism and voting in AfDs (and MfDs and CfDs and TfDs). User:Srose/myarticles has a list of the articles I've started; I'm very proud of them. :) I'm also proud of my contributions in keeping Wikipedia accurate and vandalism-free. Well, let me know if you need anything! :) Happy editing, Srose (talk) 19:55, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sandboxing and Regards to Stock Brokers

Just to inform you I was in the sandbox and no I did not put anything up about Stock Brockers. I personally don't even have websites in any kind of reference with Stock Brokers.

Stormie823 20:49, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry fella yer on yer own here, I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm only VP'ing non-logged in edits at the moment and having looked back over my previous hour or so reverts I have zero about stock brokers. But a word to the wise, I see you are in discussion with Jamie on your users page, don't delete messages, it's tantamount to a warning on it's own. If I've missed something let me know with a link and I'll look into it. Cheers muchly Khukri (talk . contribs) 20:59, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Amicable Resolutions

I would be civil, but I have been as civil as I can to these people, but they throw it back in my face. It's very frustrating... 84.9.103.245 23:57, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Further to this - I haven't made any more personal attacks since the message you left me. 84.9.103.245 23:59, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What are you doing?

I haven't made any personal attacks since you gave me the first message! 84.9.103.245 00:01, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I counted three attacks. Your final warning still stands, and I have reverted it. If you cannot raise an arguement without resorting to personal insults then I suggest wikipedia isn't the place for you. If you wish to discuss the problems then I will be more than willing to help you. Cheers Khukri (talk . contribs) 00:04, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your reasonable tone. Further information can be found at User_talk:212.158.254.22. 84.9.103.245 00:09, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Oh, and to clarify: I don't really care about whether that IP is blocked or not as it isn't mine any more, what I would like is an apology from the users involved. 84.9.103.245 00:20, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


Right lets clear the air, I'm interested in one thing only, and that's the integrity of the information within wikipedia. If you have changed your IP and you were 212.158.254.22 then you have have self-admitedly been a vandal. Now that I can forgive, but it depends on you and your M.O. if you wish to continue then 1) WP:CIVIL comes into play, in other words play nice with the other kids. 2) if you disagree discuss it 3) if you want to continue to be a vandal then myself and many others with the same software will start adding blocks, and trust me there is an indefinate option. Which I hope you can imagine is a pain in the proverbial if you are a static IP. So up to you. If you want to continue normally give me a shout and I will smooth the water, if not no bother. Cheers Khukri (talk . contribs) 00:22, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Yep, I'd like to help still, especially with uk railway articles (which is all I'm good at ;)) - the ip I used to talk you just then was blocked again by psyguy - please help me with this as I really real victimised agianst. I literally vandilised once and have already been banned twice! I am perfectly willing to do my best.84.9.85.122 03:00, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Questions

Hi, thank you for your help. I started reading the guidelines and policies of wikipedia but i still need some advice. I actually sent an e-mail to a supervisor tangotango, but never answered, maybe he/she is too busy. I may sent them to Alex, but i took his time too much. Maybe you have some time to answer them, and i shall greatly appreciate if you do so. Apologizing,

First, i want to edit an article but the paragraph contains some links which is not relevent with the context of the article. Should i remove the links or should i make some explanation statements related with the links (in this case this will lead some irrelevent discussion which has to be done in the discussion page)?

Second, some articles contain POV arguments and POV related references such as blog/forum pages. If this is obvious (like advertising or propaganda statements), is it reasonable to cut them from the article and paste them to the discussion page (of course, stating the reason of removing in the discussion page)?

Third question is about reverting. If a page is somehow vandalised or disputed and if we do not know the latest objective and comprehensive version of it, which copy should be chosen (is it possible to choose one of the earliest versions of it?) or should we rewrite the whole article from the beginning? (if the article is short no problem, if not?)

I shall wait for your answer before going on. Thank you very much. e104421 14:19 (UCT) 31 August 2006


What's the article, what's yer edit and what are the links let me know what you want to change why whatfor all the usual jazz and I'll put you in the right direction. Cheers Khukri (talk . contribs) 19:31, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

The article is related with Operation Atilla, i already removed the link dated 11:33, 31 August 2006 and added the reason at the discussion section. The link was giving misleading connection to WWII Nazi operation Operation Attila (WW II). The other ones are related with the Turkish Military, although i'm not an army expert and always against army related expeditures, i'm not agree with the subjective statements such as "Turkish Navy is among the strongest in Europe" and also exaggareted figures which reflects POV. Actually, i asked, in general, what should be the procedure? I can always ask your comments all the time but i do want to bore you. For this reason, if you give me some insight or describe the way i should follow, i'll be more confident in editing, cause i strongly agree with the aim and philosophy of Wikipedia and do not want to cause any debate or go into edit war which i disliked at the very beginning. e104421 20:00 (UCT) 31 August 2006

Couple of ways round this. If you disbelieve something you can just add {{fact}} which will give you a comment like this[citation needed], in which you put the onus on the Author to proof his claims. Another way go to the talk page and say you disagree, or the last way, is google it have a look round find the evidence post it on the talk page, then edit the article as you have just cause. If someone disagree's with you, keep it nice, as I said the other night play nice with the other kids. Some people will get arsey but a measure of your argument is if you can pull them to bits with logic and not hot temper. If it goes wrong, avoid reverting someone else 3 times, if they revert you a couple of times call in an admin and go to arbitration. Go look at the Ark of the Convenant, in the archive of the talk page you will find an argument I've had with a racist who wished to delete the Qu'ran from the article because he stated it was a jewish artifact. He did it repeatedly for months until I left a message on the talk, which said I wouldn't relent and that he had to discuss it before I'd agree to the deletion. Anyway any probs give me a shout. Khukri (talk . contribs) 20:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:82.47.137.35

User:82.47.137.35 has again vandalised. I have reverted the change. Please look into the matter.-- Anupamsr|talk |contribs  12:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)\\

Reported to WP:AIV. Cheers Khukri (talk . contribs) 14:46, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Altaic

Dear Khukri, i read your answers to my questions. Thank you vey much. I started editing more confidently with the insight given by your comments. I also read the reliable sources section of wikipedia.

I did the similar action for the Turkish Language article as you did for the ark of the covenant. Someone put in-parantesis "disputed" for Altaic Language family without giving a relevent source or information. The reference given is to a web page, but linguistics you know is a scientific study. In this case, the reliable sources should be internationally recognized journals (most of them are included in citation index), aren't they? Furthermore, if there is a dispute related with Altaic Language family this should be done in the Altaic Languages discussion page. e104421

[edit] Aggressive?

I came to this page from the Byzantine empire page, where someone had made some strange alterations and been reverted; thence to the talk page for that user; thence to your page, which begins with some very belligerent remarks.

I can only presume that you get vandalised a lot? If so, you might find it happens less if you are rather less aggressive!

You must be a long-term wikipedian, I presume? But most people are not! Screaming at a newbie making a mistake seems only calculated to provoke retaliation. Won't boasting that you don't give a damn if people are angry make you seem unlikeable?

All this serves only to increase the disesteem in which an increasing number of people hold Wikipedia. Surely? Even IP numbers have feelings... :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.77.109.121 (talk • contribs)

Put it this way, if you look around wikipedia you're likely to find around a 1,000 message to vandals from me. If someone thinks it's fun to change Byzantine empire to THe Penis Empire' here, Then pray tell, why shouldn't he be given a warning and WHY should I give a damn if it makes me unlikable. For your information Wikipedia is a repository of information, not some cool or funky game where we can leave rude, inane or puerile messages for our mates to see. To call his vandalism a mistake or strange alteration is, I believe, very generous on your part, and I can only see it as simnple vandalism, hence the warning that was given.
Unfortunately the only edit I found stemmed from an AOL ip, which is used by many users, so there are innocent users who get affected by immaturity of a few. But wikipedia has to serve more than the AOL community, so we do issue the warnings and will block AOL ip's if necessary, to protect the information. If this isn't the revert and warning I issued, that you are talking about, please show me I will investigate and I will be more than willing to rectify the issue. Cheers Khukri (talk . contribs) 09:49, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism to look out for

Hi — as you seem to be on vandal patrol right now, please keep an eye out for vandalism from IPs beginning with 219 — there have been a series of vandalims from that range from NETVIGATOR network. This is applies to the IP who left you a "thank you" for your warning messages. — ERcheck (talk) 15:50, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Indeed 'tis I

Thanks for watchin' out. =) gavindow 16:43, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Reply

Wouldn't mind at all -just FYI, I just gave him another 3 for editing the name of the principle, so a 4 might be in order. --Mnemeson 19:48, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

OK, between you, me, and him, typing is happening too quickly ;-) --Mnemeson 19:49, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:80.141.19.4

While I was considering, this user has vandalized again and been blocked, so the issue is moot. Thanks for the contact, and I'm glad this user has been blocked (at least for the time being). Dar-Ape 21:11, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Heacham

Hi Khukri. Sorry I have never lived in Heacham, but went there on holiday a couple of years back. I therefore can't get any pictures of the village sign. Good article by the way! James

[edit] Hello! :)

Hehe, yup, I've been working busily for the past few days, but now that's over - except I go back to school tomorrow, so goodness knows how frequently I'll be around!! Nice to hear from you again! :) Srose (talk) 21:18, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] thanks

...I needed to have someone tell me that, I'm spending way too much time watching recent changes for nastiness as though I'm some kind of morality police... sometimes I have to laugh at myself. Thanks for the barnstar, and keep up the good work! I'm back to editing articles now.  :-) Antandrus (talk) 21:35, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalSniper

You've been approved to use VandalSniper. Please let me know if you have any problems getting it working. --Chris (talk) 22:11, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Can u plz edit this page... its in (KHATRI) section type khatri in search n edit the box.. thanx

Khatris and other groups : Khatri | Arora | Sekhri | Bhatia | Sood | Kukhran | Ahuja | Alreja | Bedi | Dumra | Mehra | Kapoor | Khullar Insertformulahere —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.242.166.60 (talk • contribs)


Sorry I have no idea what you are talking about or what you want. Please re-explain it and I may be able to help. Khukri (talk . contribs) 07:27, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

You got any idea what this is about? Got exactly the same message. Cheers Khukri (talk . contribs) 07:26, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

So who is adding this khatri related links .Bharatveer 12:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
No idea, and I don't even know the subject matter. I'll ignore it for now and hope it goes away ;) Khukri (talk . contribs) (talk . contribs) 13:41, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The American Way

I didn't edit the page on The American Way. I have no idea why you would send me a warning. 69.123.252.225 02:40, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

My fault it was one of the other guys in the house. Peace 69.123.252.225 02:48, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Just to clarify this is why your IP got the warning. Cheers Khukri (talk . contribs) 07:29, 5 September 2006 (UTC)