Talk:Khaybar

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[edit] Chant

I've added the section on the chant from the article Khaybar Khaybar, which is up for AfD here [1], in response to multiple suggestions that the material be merged into the article on Khaybar. For those who regularly follow this article, if I've stepped on your toes, I apologize, and please feel free to either undo what I've done or modify it further. Akradecki 16:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Jizya

I'm not so sure that the jizya was instituted after 'Umar went to Khaybar because the jizya is mentioned in the Qur'an -- which precedes 'Umar as caliph.


[edit] Betrayal

The article as it is written now, states that: "The Jews were exiled from Khaybar in reign of caliph Umar (634-644) for betrayal during the battle of Khaybar". This is obvious not a proper expression, and I imagine it contradicts the spirit of neutrality that must be followed in Wikipedia. The Jews could of course not betray anyone who came to conquer and kill a large part of them (the Banu Nadir tribe). The Jews were against them who came and conquered them, and this should be stated in a neutral tone. --Fjellgauk 03:59, 23 May 2008 (UTC)