Talk:Khatme Nabuwwat
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[edit] More Deoband facts
Kaukab Noorani writes,
From http://www.islamicacademy.org/html/Articles/English/Black%20and%20White.htm
The present head of the Deobandi-Wahaabi-Tableeghi Jama'at, Janab Abul Hasan Ali Nadvi, on page 55 of his book, Sawaanih Maulana Abdul Qaadir Raipuri, says: "In those days Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani's claim and invitations were much talked about, specially in the Punjab, where few Musalmaan localities were free of such talks and discussions would continue. Near the home-town (Dhudiyan) of Hazrat (Abdul Qaadir Raipuri) is a place called 'Bhera'. An aalim there, who was also a student of the family elders of the Hazrat (Raipuri), Hakeem Noorud-deen (Qadiani), was a close devotee and assistant of Mirza Sahib (Qadiani) and had permanently settled in Qadian to be of help to him (Mirza Qadiani) in achieving success for him and for the sake of his companionship. There was much talk in his circle of devotees and in his sphere of influence of the claim of Mirza Sahib to be a person favoured by Allah and for his being blessed with acceptance of his supplication. The Hazrat (Raipuri) had read it somewhere in Mirza Sahib's (Qadiani's) writings that Allah had inspired in him the saying, Ajeebu kulla duaa'ika illaf shurakaa'ika (I will grant all your supplications except those made for your partners), So The Hazrat (Raipuri) in a letter to Mirza Sahib (Qadiani) from 'Afzal Grah' referred to this very inspiration and promise and requested him that since he had no partnership with him (Qadiani) he should make supplication so that he may be given guidance and his breast be opened up. A letter from there written by one Maulvi Abdul Kareem Sahib informed him (Raipuri) that his letter had been received and much supplication had been made for him. So, he should keep reminding about it occasionally. The Hazrat (Raipuri) used to say that in those days a post card cost one Pisa and so he would occasionally post a card to Mirza Qadiani by way of a reminder for supplicating on his behalf." More about the special disciple of Janab Shah Abdur Raheem Raipuri, Janab Abdul Qaadir Raipuri (whose real name was Ghulam Jeelaani). On page 62 of his book, Abul Hasan Nadvi Sahib writes: "Giving an account of the meetings held by Hakeem Sahib (Noorud-deen Qadiani), he (Abdul Qaadir Raipuri) said 'I used to watch him (Hakeem Sahib) recite every now and then the Qur'aanic verse La ilaaha illa anta Subhaanaka inni kuntu minaz zaalimeen with such compassion that one felt drawn towards it. Then, I would think how a person possessing such ecstasy and nearness to Allah can be so ignoramous? But at the same time I would think in my heart that if Allah is most compassionate and most merciful, and He is undoubtedly so, He cannot leave him in such ignominy". During this journey, he also met Mirza Sahib (Qadiani), and he (Abdul Qaadir Raipuri) used to say that he would sometimes say his prayers behind him (Mirza Qadian) and sometimes separately." Khokhar976
[edit] User:Khokhar976
This editor is a Qadiani and always try to create a rift among Muslims by misquoting Muslim scholars of other schools. e.g. He has tried to prove in this article that Sufi do not believe in finality of prophethood by misquoting Ibn-Arabi. The same about Deobandies by misquoting Maulana Nanatvi.
Everyone interested in facts should know that the Movement for Protection of Finality of Prophethood (Majlis Tahaffuz Khatm Nabuwwat) is not a Salafi movement but includes all schools of Mainstream Muslims such as Deobandies, Barelvies, Shias, Ahl-Hadith etc. In fact the Majlis was headed by a Deobandi Maulana Yusuf Bannori, the resolution was presented in Pakistani Parliament by a Sufi leader Maulana Shah Ahmed Noorani, and the argument in Supreme court were given by a Shai scholar Allama Naseer Al-Ijtihadi.
Not one school of Mainstream Muslims doubt the meaning of Khatme Nabuwwat is other than end of line of Prophethood. I have removed all such false misrepresentation by Qadiani editor Khokhar976. Hassanfarooqi 13:38, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- Please contribute to the topic with references related to the topic itself. Any editor with any religious affiliation is welcome to add information in Wikipedia. The Majlis TKM is notorious for its anti-shia stance and it is wrong to say that shia take part in this organization. The main contributors to the organization are Sunnis and Wahabis. There is a seperate topic dealing with that orgnaization. The theme here is only the belief of finality of prophethood. 172.213.94.122
- 172.213.94.122, you are simply a vandal as I observed in your many posts. You are nothing more than a dedicated vandal to do anything to hide the bare back of the Ahmadiya. When all the sects of Mulims have passed the resolution to define the meaning of 'khatme Nabuwwat' as the 'finality of prophethood' then who are you single negligible vandal? Are you more significant then that all parliment? VirtualEye 05:58, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- 172.213.94.122 (or shall I call you Khokhar976), give me one proof that MTKN is anti-shia. Please do not quote from books published by Qadiani press (explicit or implicit). If one is to believe in these books, then Ubaidullah Sindhi, a staunch Wahhabi anti-British Muslim, was a pro-British Qadiani.
- In any case, it was not MTKN that made Qadianese non-Muslim. It was the Supreme court of Pakistan that declared it only after the Qadiani Chief testified that their religion is seperate from Mainstream Islam. The resolution was tabled in Parliament by a Sufi political leader Maulana Shah Ahmed Noorani (and you prove that Sufies do not believe in finality of prophethood), and it was approved by Barelvis, Deobandies, Shias, and even Christian members of Parliament. Hassanfarooqi 14:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
All you have to do is to prove your stupid notions. Bring references and proper citations and I will gladly accept your edits. 172.188.123.219
[edit] Hate Material
This is a scholarly topic requiring historical and theological material. Do not include hate material just because you do not agree with one of the editors. SaifullahKhalid
- Same Goes to you . Khalidkhoso 22:02, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
You can request mediation if you are so adamant on spreading your POVs SaifullahKhalid
Please do not vandalize the article by adding irrelevent info. Khokhar976
