Talk:Khan Tengri

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[edit] Location

According to the Chinese version of the article, the peak is not located at the border between Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan, sondern at the border between China and Kyrgyzstan. There is also an entry in the 《中国地名录》, as Hantengri. The coordinates given there are slightly different: 42.12°N, 80.13°O. What's the correct location? —Babelfisch 13:48, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

If you look on Google Earth, Khan Tengri peak is marked at 42° 12'43.33"N, 80° 10'25.53" E. The Kazakh/Kyrgyz border passes through the mountain. The Chinese/Kazakh/Kyrgyz borders meet a short distance to the east, at 42° 13'15" N, 80° 14'44" E. I'm not sure quite how precisely the borders are drawn and matched with the terrain; they look a bit approximate. For instance, I'd have expected the border to follow the crest of the peaks, but it seems to have "slipped" a little to the north. SiGarb | Talk 18:48, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

According the treaty among Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan and China in 1999, the peak locates at the junction where the borders of the three countries meet. And the coordinates given is 42°12′36.4″N,80°10′31.1″E.

I would be interested to see the source of the above claim. According to Soviet topographic mapping, the triple border is an unnamed 6637m peak 6km east of Khan Tengri, and that Khan Tengri lies wholly outside China. It is difficult to draw topographically logical borders that include China among those countries that own Khan Tengri's main summit. Viewfinder

CHINA, KAZAKHSTAN, KYRYZSTAN SIGN BORDER AGREEMENT. On the sidelines of the Bishkek summit, Jiang Zemin, Nazarbaev, and Askar Akaev signed what Akaev termed "a final agreement" on delimiting the frontiers between the three countries where they converge at the Khan-tengri peak, RFE/RL's Bishkek bureau reported.

http://www.friends-partners.org/friends/news/omri/1999/08/990826I.html

I am sceptical about this report. The report is not from any official authority; it seems to be from a non-government organisation. There are no border details and it is quite likely that there was a reporting inaccuracy. The report should have read "in the vicinity of Khan Tengri". Still, if anyone can supply or direct me to the full text of the agreement, then I am open to persuasion. I have not seen any maps which place the KT summit on the Chinese border. A 1996 West Col map calls the 6637m peak "East Shatior". Viewfinder 15:21, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

The official authorities are mainly in Chinese or Russian,e.g.

http://www.npc.gov.cn/zgrdw/common/zw.jsp?label=WXZLK&id=8966

And also, the Encyclopaedia Britannica gives the same description.

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9039104/Khan-Tangiri-Peak

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.221.16.42 (talk • contribs) Please sign your posts using four tildes. Viewfinder 19:36, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I can get a translation of the Chinese document here. The translation is not very good, can any Chinese speakers reading this make it clearer? It seems to have been agreed that the 6995m summit is the three-nation boundary; the coordinates given, B = 42 ° 12'36 .4 " N and L = 80 ° 10'31 .1 ", are in agreement with the summit coordinates. A supplementary document goes into detail about the course of the border but I don't understand the translation, I cannot access the map and the border must have to follow an illogical course relative to the ridges. Viewfinder 19:36, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

There is some mystery here, because all the other Wikipedias and external links from the main article claim that the summit is not the three nation boundary. Viewfinder 19:46, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

The topographty is not the only factor, otherwise the Kazakhstan border should be along the northern ridge. Furthermore, If I hanen't misunderstood, the second external link says that the peak locates just south of the point where Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and China's borders meet, which is not consistent with the Soviet topographic mapping either.