Talk:Keysar Trad

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Contents 1 Very biased 2 Tarins01 3 Any quotation has to be referenced 4 Accusations of lying 5 OTRS changes 6 insulting remarks 7 WikiProject class rating

[edit] Very biased

this article is very biased. two weeks ago a very good article existed but has repeatedly been vandalised by a few thugs. can someone revert it to the status of 2-3 weeks ago as it was factual, unbiased, and suitable for ans encyclopedia. thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tarins01 (talk • contribs) ..

• You are welcome to put in the comments about the positive vibes he is trying to send out, but such inflammatory comments that are on the public record must also be represented. Your comments about vandalising are somewhat ironic, noting your editing about Jewish groups.Blnguyen 01:04, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

• The last page misrepresented Trad. It said nothing of the fact that he has made racially inflammatory remarks, that he was stood down from the Lebanses Muslim Associtaion, that he had villified gays or that he had worked for organisations that had terrorist sympathies. You may edit the article, but you will do well to include the before mentioned facts. Gullivers travels 12:38, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tarins01

Why do you keep removing quotes? Trad does not deny he has said these things. I have used an anti-Trad article as a reference, but I have also used a pro-Trad site. There are two pro-Trad links and two-Anti trad sites. If you want to include some more of his more positive aspects please do so, but do not delete his more extremist quotes. I will not be drawn into a childish argumentwith you. "Go get a Uni Degree? Are you serious?

[edit] Any quotation has to be referenced

I wikified your article. You need more references for your material per Wikipedia policies:

• Wikipedia:Verifiability
• Wikipedia:Reliable sources
• Wikipedia:Citing sources

KarenAnn 17:08, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Accusations of lying

Danny removed (by rollback) a link to a opinion piece in the Sydney Morning Herald in which Trad was accused of lying. Was this done for biography of a living person / office reasons? The Sydney Morning Herald is a reputable publication - if someone had a problem with the description, wouldn't they take their complaint to the SMH rather than us? Andjam 02:47, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] OTRS changes

Some changes to the article have been made as a result of OTRS - someone sending an email to wikipedia complaining about the article. I don't mind people removing uncited accusations, but in this case it involves adding uncited claims. The bits that concern me most are:

• Trad has described this as being a response to Hansonism.
• Right-wing columnist Paul Sheehan ...

The first one sounds like uncited spin (though it may turn out to be citable spin). The second one is a concern because I thought that Paul Sheehan has said that he doesn't consider himself right-wing - we can't make uncited claims about one living person to avoid BLP problems with another person. Andjam 03:52, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] insulting remarks

Whilst I do not personally endorse such comments I recently heard that a 'slogan' is now circulating in the White community: "Grow your own dope: plant a Mufti". We non-Australians must resist this sort of thing. Unsigned comment from user 60.228.183.57

[Response to the unsigned comment above]- Wikipedia isn't a forum in which to try to arouse aggression between cultures or skin tones, and your remarks are an insult to this forum. User 60.228.183.57 should be reminded that all his/her wikipedia edits are recorded, whether she/he signs them or not. Nina 137.111.47.182 02:40, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Quite so, my dear Nina. However I can walk down the street and edit from a computer there, or from an internet cafe, which will display a different and untraceable IP address.

[edit] WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 16:17, 31 August 2007 (UTC)