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[edit] Wikipedia is not a place to list family members

Wikipedia is not a place to list family members. Socially notable persons of Keyi family can be listed here, not just because anyone is an advocate or a doctor. There are hundreds of members in the family and there is no need to list every one here. I don't know why Keyi1 is insisting upon adding few not so popular keyi family members here. --59.93.5.142 12:58, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Third opinion

I am here in response to the request for a third opinion. One of the official policies of Wikipedia is verifiability. None of the material on this page appears to cite a reliable source. By doing so it is much easier to tell who is notable and who isn't. Otherwise it will just be an interminable argument between the two of you. If you cannot provide citations of reliable sources, this page may be deleted. Grouse 20:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Keyi Family is quite notable family in Kerala state of India. Here is the link to news artcile that came in The Hindu newspaper [1]. Another link from Kerala goverment website.[2] What I was telling is that there is no need to list all non notable members in this artcle. --59.93.4.5 05:08, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
I understood that your point was twofold&mdash(1) another user is adding people that are not-notable; and (2) another user is removing people that are notable. While your complaint may be valid, it is not possible for most outside observers to be able to find the truth, because neither of you have followed Wikipedia's verifiability policy until now. My suggestion would be that you add a citation for the facts regarding the people you want to be included, and then point out here on this talk page the people missing citations so that User:Keyi1 may respond. Grouse 10:12, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not a place for advertising

The user (earlier from IP 59.93.18.242 and later from IP 59.93.4.5) was trying to add his personal details, which is against the policies of wikipedia. I have removed those details from the site, which has enraged the user and started vandalizing the site by adding the details about unknown and infamous people as family members and removing the genuine and accurate information. One of the edits made by the user is given below.

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C.P. Mohammed Ashraf Keyi a descendent of the great Keyi family and nephew of C.P.Kunhiahmed Keyi (former Ranjhi Trophy cricket player) is a hockey player who represented Tamilnadu state in Hockey national championships. He is a banker by profession working in State Bank of India, Chennai. His son Shoaib mohamed A.R is an upcomming hockey goal-keeper who represented Tamilnadu hockey in under-14 years

Unquote: It is clearly evident from the above edit who has added non-notable persons and that the user is trying to promote someone through this site. It seems the user is not aware of the fact that the family has a high reputation in field of sports and games, not only as organizers but also as participants. So many members of the family represented various state teams.

If the user is keen on self promotion, then I would like to advise him to launch a personal website. My humble request to the user is to desist from vandalizing this site or any other site in wiki in future and please don’t transform this medium a place to settle score with someone or vent personal ire against someone. Please try to contribute in a positive and constructive manner which will be helpful for everyone - Keyi1

Personalizing this discussion and the actions of others is neither necessary nor helpful. I believe the way forward is quite simple. If you feel information is in the article that is not cited, please add {{citation needed}} after it. If you feel information is in the article that should be kept, then please cite a source to prove its verifiability. This can all be done without ascribing motives or emotions to other editors. Grouse 14:00, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 18:27, 9 November 2007 (UTC)