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This wikipedia page is exclusionary and laden with jargon. For those who are not educated in Jewish theology and philosophy, this page doesn't even begin to explain what "Keter" means. Someone should make a concerted effort to provide at least a cursory explanation for the uninitiated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.47.23 (talk) 18:03, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
What are you talking about?! There isn't one work of kabbalah that I'm aware of that relates Malkhut to evil. It actually refers to spiritual completion and harmonious unity within complex structures (complex in that they consist of many variegated aspects). Please don't write information that is based on speculation/lack of knowledge/unaccepted sources (many kabbalah books and classes out there are not considered authoritative as they either radically depart from or misstate classic kabbalistic ideas. The kabbala center is a good example of a non-authoritative source). (I'll take this all back and apologize, if you can come up with an authoritative source). HKT 19:58, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
I'm aware of the refference of Malkuth repersenting evil. Its a very very very vague concept and extremely far from the main stream. In the yetzirah it says that a sepiroth has a "depth of evil" but There is no conclusive document such as the bahir, zohar, raziel, or yetzirah that indicates that malkuth is the evil sepiroth beyond the conjectural so I removed it.
[edit] Da'ath and keter?
"Da'at and Keter are the same sefirah from two different aspects. From one aspect this sefirah is referred to Keter and from another aspect it is referred to as Da'at. Therefore when Da'at is counted then Keter is not counted and when Keter is counted Da'at is not counted." I could not find any justifcation for this reasoning, nor was non provided. I have never seen this represented from any of the classical jewish documents, nor hermetic, rosicrusian or otherwise. Thusly, i am removing it. If you can give a legitiment source. Then by all means, place it back in. However, its importent to remember that sourcing is importent. JaynusofSinope
I have not seen this take before either. It might exist as a valid alternative interpretation. However, it is not the main view. I agree with you. I know Da'ath as the (sometimes) eleventh sephiroth. __meco 10:01, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
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why are the sources divided into jewish and non-jewish? what relevance does that have? and how are dion fortune and israel regardie not judaic writers? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harlequence (talk • contribs) 20:20, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
