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My user talk page policy: Discussion about a particular article should go on its talk page. Things for me can be sent by email (my email link works) or here. Unless you ask me to reply somewhere else, I will respond in the same place as the message I am responding to. I will reply here to comments left here. You won't get the nice caramel banner that there is a message for you but I will mention it in the edit summary and assume that you will watch my talk page. If I leave a comment on your talk page about something, I will watch for a reply there, in case you want to do this the same way. |
[edit] Service award
Just to let you know, you qualify for this. This award is determined strictly by your time on Wikipedia and your edit count. Congrats! --BrokenSphere 00:03, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Kelowna Jedi Guy
Hello,
Thank you for expressing your concern, however, I was not experimenting with the Kelowna topic. Please note, in todays published paper located in Kelowna, BC, Canada which is dated for Sunday, May 18th, 2008 they have covered the story about the Kelowna Jedi Guy, who they repeatedly state him as the Okanagan celebrity located in Kelowna, BC, Canada. It is sad to see that you were offended by myself extending and improving the Kelowna topic of wikipedia.
Have a splendid day.
Colonized (talk) 19:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- Fair enough, but adding a section called celebrities with an unexplained link called Kelowna Jedi to an under construction web site does nothing useful in an article about Kelowna. Sorry. --KenWalker | Talk 21:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] FYI Kingfisher (sloop)
Just letting you know I just made this, I guess I'll stub up the Sutlej content likewise the Devastation; I don't have other BC refs than the two online ones I've found, unless I turn up something in JB Kerr (the Howay that's online is either Vol 1 or Vol 1V, not Vol II which is the one needed, i.e. of British Columbia:From the Earliest Times to the Present) and I doubt J.B. Kerr's book has much. I think the Akriggs do, maybe a listing of all the villages that were destroyed, and more details of the casualties. I'm trying to figure out how to title this kind of stuff as far as particular incidents go, like Battle of Seattle (1856); in Royal Navy parlance these were not "battles" or actual warfare, but "punitive expeditions"; I'd added the Destruction of Opitsaht to the List of conflicts in Canada and could do the same with a masked link off the Kingfisher or one of the Ahousaht village articles (I made Marktosis last night, not sure where Moyat was and what its "proper" spelling is - Mowaht?). Anyway anything you could add; my primte motivation here was not to write up the naval record but to get at enumerating Nuu-chah-nulth villages; start one article, start tend, you know t he story. Speaking of which have you noticed Bralorne, British Columbia? I should have written it when I had Lewis Green's book handy; someone else has started it, I'm trying to keep it wikistyle but it's hard to do without time/resources....and in that case "start one article, create fifty" is more like it, which is why I held off so long. As a matter of fact I'm wonde4ring if the town article shoudl be Bralorne-Pioneer as the two histories are so intertwined, and separate articles on each mine (they were eventually amalgamated). But what the heck, I look around the web and see the virtualmuseum and livinghistory sites and others like them proliferating and wonder who's getting the dough, other than the grahpics design people. On hte virtualmuseum pages I've noticed major errors; a problem with volunteer-written sites, or maybe because it's Ottawa-rooted and they just don't know f&&k all (Bralorne, for instance, is NOT in the Cariboo Mountains). So here I am, building a magnum opus of random content in Wikiepdia, entirely unpaid while those who get funding are churning out nice-looking crap......sigh.Skookum1 (talk) 20:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- PS a bit negligent of me not to add something of the same to the HMS Sutlej article, but taht gets involved as it's not just the "Clayoquot War" (for lack of a better coinage) that the Sutlej was invovled in, and there's all kinds of thigns named after it, too.....I'm tired for now, time for teh gym; it's a sxlippery slope this wiki stuff; and jehosaphat begat blunderbus begat leviathan begat gargantuta, it just keeps on breeding; I could spend a year on just one region of BC and still not get it all; I'm sure you feel the same.....Skookum1 (talk) 20:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- Walbran, Coast Names, mentions this adventure but with no more detail than you already have. --KenWalker | Talk 22:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- Walbran has an entry he calls Ahousat (Mak-To_sis), Flores Island, Clayoquot. He says "Mak-to-sis, on Flores island, the present home of the Ahousats, was, years ago, a burying place of the now extinct tribe of Out-sos-aht, whose home was on the sea coast of Flores island, about two miles east of Rafael point, in a cove which among the Indians still bears the name of Out-sos. Mak-to-sis is derived from the word 'Mak-yak-sats.' a coffin or 'Mak-yak-witl' to bury." Goes on to mention the 1864 massacre and destruction of the Kingfisher while lying in Matilda creek. --KenWalker | Talk 22:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Broughton, Gray and Aboutmovies
Hi Ken; I've been reading Howay & Scholefield in depth beyond the tidbits about the HMS America I found last night, and came across their account of the Broughton/Gray dispute, which Aboutmovies has been so nasty and peremptory about for his pet article Gray sails the Columbia River. This is just an FYI but see Gray_sails_the_Columbia_River#historical_dispute_re_Broughton.2FGray this for my latest salvo. A tad on the not-good-faith side of things but hard not to call down a bully when I see one. Howay/Scholefield cover the Oregon Question in admirable detail; I'll be adding some comments to Talk:Oregon boundary dispute once I get the time - found some juicy stuff - but that article is, like the Gray ones, subject to "ownership" by "Oregon imperialists" and there's too much shit to wade through to straighten it out easily; wondering about a peer review of it, pending addition of BritPOV content to balance the rank USPOV tone/content currently in place. Thank God for sane Northwesternsrs like User:Pfly and user:Northwsterner1 and others like User:NorCalHistory, who've been admirably balanced and open-minded in discussions and research; I'll remind you that Aboutmovies was the main interloper on Hollywood North and was just as much of a &*(%^(% over there....Skookum1 (talk) 21:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- Hilarious. I couldn't post this originally because the Gray/Columbia talkpage link used en.wikipedia.org, which is blacklisted. Go figure.Skookum1 (talk) 21:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] The Carnarvon Terms and other matters
Hi Ken; just got up and indulging my wikiaddiction even before the coffee's finished perking (er, dripping...). Last night in the wee hours I started reading Howay & Scholefield's chapters on the Carnarvon Terms pp.341-384 Chapters XX and XXI and find myself boggled by the complexity of the matter, which I've only ever seen referred to indirectly and never seen the particulars before (e.g. J. Morton talks about the politics around them, but doesn't describe the terms themselves). Needs a more disciplined mind than my own and, I daresay, a legal one.....as also with their analysis/account of the Oregon and San Juans disputes. I know we're all busy and alwasy finding our own little wiki-tangents to tweak; last night I wrote Silverdale, British Columbia and wound up adding to the Mission article, then finding that Stave Falls had been written, though not very well ;-| and now I find myself faced with finally having to write the Stave River Power Project (maybe Stave-Alouette Power Project, I'll have to find the most usual term as used by Hyero and its predecessors there); similarly our well-intended IP contributor "sfs" has launched Bralorne, British Columbia in a kind of messy direction and without awareness of wiki style/citation; one reason I'd avoided writing Bridge River goldfields article is because of the complexity of the story; even to write Bralorne and its twin articles Pioneer Mine and Brexton there are other articles implied - the Bridge River Gold Rush, the Bridge River Mining District (aka Bridge River gold camp as you'll find it referred to, ditto with things like the "Slocan camp" etc.), plus the individual mine articles....anyway, like myself I know you have your own bandwagons in wikiworld, but I'm hoping your more finely-tooled/trained mind can at least come up with a precis of the Carnarvon Terms, which are a key part of early provincial history/politics and Provincial-Dominion relations (or irrelations maybe is a better term ;-) ). Similarly the Oregon boundary dispute article has been set in a heavily-US-domestic-politics/perspective direction without very much British-side equivalents; the overwriting of the "1844 election" section there is no balanced by corresponding imperial/BC/HBC politics, and because diplomatic arguments are what they are, the legalistic finickeries of the whole affair (Oregon and San Juans being basically the same dispute/history) are bizarrely convoluted; and as Canadians in general are mostly unaware of the "loss of Southern ColumbiaZ", as the Akriggs put it, there's been very little input frmo Canadian/BC editors, and as you know I tend to find myself snarled up in talkpage issues rather than actual article-writing ;-) (I spend so much time doing cats/stubs etc that actual full articles are rare from me now....of course I don't have sourcebooks on hand either). Howay & Scholefield turn out to have a really great account of the Oregon and San Juans but it's too much for me to efficiently condense. So just throwing these on your plate, like other things I've dumped into your lap; I'm mostly concerned about hte Manifest Destiny tone of the Oregon boundary and Pig War articles, and also to some degree the Alaska boundary article, i.e. the crossborder content is lacking, and the articles are dominantly American in viewpoint...andpatrolled by certain know-nothings whose view of American continental history is more than a bit jingoistic and one-sided......and both cynical and hostile to the British point of view; a certain one of these editors has shown his hostility to Canada/Canadians before re Canadian film iudustry articles/debacles (before he got busy on oregon articles) and overblown writeups on topics like Capt. Gray......my blood pressure is one reason I wikibroke a while ago, in fact; the aggravation I just don't need when I'm trying to contribute objectively, and also am busy with organizational/hierarchical/content matters across the broad range of topics/articles I monitor......yeah, I take too much on, no doubt.....whine, whine, whien, time for more coffee.....Skookum1 (talk) 13:24, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Peter Fidler (explorer)
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[edit] Labouchere (paddle steamer) FYI
Not sure what else you might ahve to add; bio articles on namesake family/company seem called form but mostly English history (see google for this name).Skookum1 (talk) 22:44, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] List of canneries in British Columbia
Got turned onto this while looking into Tallheo, as a spin off the Nuxalk spin off the Bella Coola stuff; what tangled tangents we weave; I just made a dozen cannery town stubs, with spin-offs like Boswell on Kootenay Lake because of Boswell the cannery town; ahd to write both to make sense on teh Boswell disambig page. These so far are, or ratehr the ones I jsut added lower on the list, are on the cannery-history page listed; Toba Inlet I can't locate, it may have been Klahoose, British Columbia but then again it may have been a floating town, like some way; ditto Forward Harbour and so on, where no locality is listed, on ly the bay/inlet/harbour....anyway you may know of others on the Island, and tehre may be other cats that apply; I should probably add locations to the list, but for now....the Waglisla link should probably be Government Cannery, British Columbia, which used to appear on maps but doesn't come up in BCGNIS for some reason; Waglisla may not be quite right in that context, either, I'm not sure; I know it's not hte same as Bella Bella, and maybe it's not right by them either....sigh. I'm an Interior/Lower Mainland guy, this coastla stuff is all an exploration for me....Skookum1 (talk) 02:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Little River, British Columbia FYI
Jsut a blip on the map to me; created this and other BC Little River articles as a result of trying to complete the tribs of the Thompson River (see Little River (Shuswap). Figured you might have something to add on it, since it's in your turf.Skookum1 (talk) 20:43, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Category:Mid Vancouver Island
Maybe Category:Mid Island is more what we usually say but it looks odd as a Wiki cat - no? if not maybe change it now; I'm not in the mood to populate it; it was just with Little River and what I know to be all the other little communities around there, Category:Comox Valley needed its parent; presumably - ? = Category:Greater Nanaimo is south of it; or is the Comox Valley "Mid-Island" or its own area? Campbell River? Where's the Mid-South dividing line - Nanoose? Duncan/Cowichan's "South Island" right? Cheamainus northwards would be "Mid"? Your thoughts?Skookum1 (talk) 03:57, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
- Logic of the naming is "North Island" I made as "Northern Vancouver Island", "South Island" as "Southern Vancouver Island". Grates on me a bit as "Northern Vancouver Island" is the new tourism=ministry branding for the North Island. If I thought we could ahve gotten away with cat-names like Category:South Island I would have done that.....btw Shawnigan etc isnt' Cowichan Valley....in Scholefield & Howay they call that the "Lakes District" - what's it cvalled now, if that area has a name?Skookum1 (talk) 04:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Masset Inlet and Masset Sound
Hi; created these just now in the wake of making Slatechuck Mountain, Yakoun River et al, hoping you can take the time to add the BCGNIS; which loads WAY to slow from here for wahtever reason; it's alwasy time=consuming for me to do; it was in BCGNIS that the tidbit about the Haida name coming from a Spanish surname, wasn't it? One of these days I gotta start loggin my "new article creation" on a sandbox as I tend to make these things willy-nilly once I get giong on a certain area; all this spun off adding a precise location to the Golden Spruce/Kiidk'yaas article (vs just saying "on Haida Gwaii", which is way too trendy and overused in spots where a precise location would have more relevance).Skookum1 (talk) 03:54, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Bamfield, British Columbia move proposal
Don't know if you're aware of it, maybe you've already commented....Skookum1 (talk) 04:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with your comment, but WP:CSG seems to cover it. --KenWalker | Talk 05:22, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thx. Seems it could be a bit more explicit about communities and localities, as the langauge of the section uses only "neighbourhoods" and makes no mention of unique names (doesn't have to the way things are defined); I'm too tired (4:19am - I just came in from playing up in thet Dal campus) to make comments on the CSG discussion board or on the move/name proposal, so tomorrow....to sleep or to wiki, that is the question....Skookum1 (talk) 07:20, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Land Districts
Hi; no dooubt you'ev watchlisted British Columbia general election, 1924 so have seen or will see my comments theer about that map. Soemwhere I've got a Wiki link to an 1894 land district map also; again someone mistook it for ridings....well, the 1871 ridings yes though I think there were some name differences, or name changes anyway (the Coast Land District on the map shown was in the original Comox riding, I think; provincially that is. I've been looking/ohoping for a proper definition of Land District so that article can get made, and for at least some of the land dstricts like Lillooet they haven't changed; NW Land District I think is still the same; for some reason the Coast has been cut up willy-nilly into a whole slew of land districts when othe areas didn't get cut up/sbudivided (Lillooet again, and Kootenay). Anyway pretty well the Land Dstrict are rooted in the Lands Act of 1860, so taht's another technical-legal article/stub needed (and was a scandal, as I think I laid out for your soemwhere else...."the Military Clique Lands Scandal" although that still seems unwieldy as a wording...)Skookum1 (talk) 19:22, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Cumshewa and Talk:Cumshewa, British Columbia
Just made these and will do Cumshewa Inlet based on same refs; decided to stub up Cumshewa the chief because of mentions to do with locations of mining/logging camps in the area referring to the community etc.....the community article talkpage I laid out an idea about BCGNIS content so pls have a look.Skookum1 (talk) 03:03, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] List of historical Haida villages
Thought of this before because of Skedans and Ninstints and others I know of, but again tonight while writing New Clew, British Columbia, which is thought to be the locationg of Tanu, a once-important and famous village. The same idea would apply down the coast, of course, particularly in Kwakwaka'wakw and Nuu-chah-nulth areas like we discussed about re Clayoquot Sound. Where was that bigt you sent me on Marktosis anyway? In email? Can't find it, was going to add it to the article...The Haida villages seem to have more mystique, huh? Guess that's branding for you......Skookum1 (talk) 03:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- re that, see Talk:New Clew, British Columbia re Tanu (Haida village) name format.Skookum1 (talk) 03:14, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] anti-p.r. spray (RAID!!!)
Skookum1 kills bugs dead. See Talk:Kamloops Lake where I vented maybe a bit ;-); and look at hte article's history for what I chopped out. Crass, crass, crass, and no doubt there's more of this crap out there. Throughout that fracas on Caddy Bay neither IP poster would create an account or talk about anything but those articles and how their sucky content was the right kind of content; it was clear who they were, and why they didn't want to identify themselves; the public may be suckers for shills, wikipedians tend not to be, I guess because picking apart things for flaws is part of teh turf, enit? BTW would you care to take a whack at de-POVing Bear Mountain (resort)'s eco-content/protest-content? I'm not in BC so ahrd to know the tone to watch out for, i.e. cathphrases etcSkookum1 (talk) 06:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Donald McLean et al. FYI
Hi; please see User_talk:Pfly#Donald_McLean_.28fur_trader.29.Skookum1 (talk) 19:14, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] brigade trails
Re you edit comemnt query: no, not at all; the Express and the Brigade Trail - the first Brigade Trail, from Ft Vancouver - paralleled each other, or were the same tril, to Okanagan Forks; t he Experss went up the Coloumbia from there, the Brigade Trail up the Okanagan. Tehre was no Express out of Langley, after 1846 - I don't think so anyway - that would have used the "new" Brigade Trail from Spuzzum. Robin Skelton's book This is Cariboo" describes all trails in some detail, particuarly this one (thoguh not mentioning Vidette Lake directly); ultimately a map of the old Interior trails would be great o get together; it's complciated though....sorry all t ypos; speed typing and it's late, maybe will tidy up later ;-)Skookum1 (talk) 04:19, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
