Talk:Kenneth Kaunda
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This article is clearly biased - he's a dictator portrayed as a freedom fighter - and biased charged language is used - "imperialist cecil Rhodes". That's an opinion given as fact.
[edit] Super Ken
Kenneth Kaunda is very much known as "Super Ken". Here are a few references
- The official state house website of Zambia refers to him as "Super Ken"
- the official parliament website of zambia refers to him as super ken
super ken kaunda google search - (—This unsigned comment is by Chifumbe (talk • contribs) .)
- Chifumbe, Google returns 53 results, of which several are from the same website, and a couple are from the same mirrored articles. Going by google, he is not "commonly known" as Super Ken. However, the Internet does not reflect every reality. He may very well be known as Super Ken in the streets of Kitwe, or in local newspapers with no web presence. But there is no way for us to verify that, hence we should keep Super Ken out. --Ezeu 00:56, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
KK is very much known as super Ken. He was referred to as Super Ken during his birthday by President Mwanawasa in the presence of Thabo Mbeki and Nelson Mandela according to the official statehouse website. I could hardly call that the streets of kitwe. Meanwhile a google search of "Dr. K" yields probably just one or two references. His initials are Dr. K but he is hardly referred to as that without his full name. google search for Dr. K I suggest we delete the reference to Dr.K and stick to what there is evidence for(super ken). Checking through the google search for super ken there are very few repeats and mirrored websites. Most of the entries are independent —This unsigned comment is by Chifumbe (talk • contribs) .
- I've removed Dr.K as well. Same rationale. No one is disputing that he has been referred to as Super Ken, on one or several occasions, by one or several people. The reason why "Super Ken" is being disputed is because of the key words, "commonly known as." --Ezeu 01:35, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
This is an exerpt from President Mwanawasa's speech "I am delighted to be among you to commemorate the eightieth birthday of one of the greatest sons of Africa, statesman, nation-builder, peace broker and an icon of the liberation struggle in southern Africa – the first president of the republic of Zambia, dr. Kenneth David Kaunda. The man, whom the people of Zambia affectionately refer to as “KK” or "Super Ken", is among the distinguished heroes of Africa." —This unsigned comment was added by Chifumbe (talk • contribs) 15 March 2006.
- This is pure political POV. During his presidency he was never Super K!!!! I'll ask him next time I see him —This unsigned comment was added by Vumba (talk • contribs) 15 March 2006.
[edit] Kaunda suit
No where on wikipedia is the "Kaunda suit" mentioned. What a shame. I'll try to find some references and start an article about it, or mention it in some other fashion article. --Ezeu 20:22, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- You may consider asking our Zambian editor, Mungomba; he knows everything on the country and its politics.--Aldux 20:35, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
The "Kaunda Suit" is actually a modification of a colonial and post-colonial leisure suit that was popular among the expat white community as well as, increasingly, the local population. Kaunda wore it on a consistent basis. What distinguished him from others, and a useful tool, was his white handkerchef that went along with his leisure suit. When asked why he wore the suit, he told my father that it was for confort as well as to distinguish him from the tie-and-jacket politicians.--Vumba 13:42, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Chitepo
"In retaliation the white minority governments of Rhodesia and South Africa frequently led espionage and bombing attacks in Zambia. Herbert Chitepo, prominent ZANU leader, was killed in a car bomb in Lusaka in 1975."
The wording in this particular section should be changed as it infers that the Rhodesians or South Africans (or both) assasinated Chitepo. This has never been proven and even today the chief suspect has always been the ZANU leadership (see USSR's reaction to the assasination), Particularlly Robert Mugabe. While it is important to mention both the espionage and Chitepo's death it is also important not to over simplify matters, I suggest a small subsection on the assasination and a link to Chitepo's wiki page.
