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[edit] External links
As many people seem to want links to more Kendo federations, and it would be nice to have more information about Kendo around the world, I have made a page Kendo around the world, inspired by the Soccer around the world page and moved the list of Kendo federations there. Francis Bond (talk) 03:54, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
External links to some world kendo federations were removed by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Veinor, I subsequently reinstated them because they were relevant. Shortly thereafter my edits were reverted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sir_Nicholas_de_Mimsy-Porpington, and again by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Naohiro19.
I visited Veinors talk page to discuss, left a question, but have not had a reply yet. I don't understand also why Veinor you left the european and USA links, but removed other valid ones. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kendo 66 (talk • contribs) 11:00, 10 January 2007 (UTC).
- The reason that I removed most of them is that Wikipedia is not a directory of external links. I left the USA one probably of my pro-America bias, and the European to try to counter that. I wouldn't object to a link to a page with that list, as long as it's a reliable source. Veinor (talk to me) 17:34, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
External link and associated text list, whixh was removed from the main page on 17 June 2007.
[edit] Asia
- Hong Kong Kendo Association (香港劍道協會).
- Kendo India Federation (Bharatiya Kendo Mahasangh)Indo-Kendo Renmie.
- Macau SAR Kendo Associations Union (澳門特區劍道連盟).
- The Penang Kendo Club in Malaysia was established in July 2005 under the tutelage of a 6-dan instructor, Arimatsu-Sensei.
- Ankara Kendo Iaido Assocation esttablished in Ankara to promote Kendo and Iaido in Turkey in 2007
[edit] Africa
- The South African Kendo Federation is the official body not only of kendo but also Iaido and Jodo. Recently kendo activities have started in Mozambique and Malawi.
[edit] Oceania
- The Australian Kendo Renmei grew from the beginning of kendo in Australia in the 1960's and is a founding member of the FIK (formerly the IKF). Australian Kendo Championships have been held in Australia annually for over 31 years.
[edit] Pacific Ocean
- Hawaii Kendo Federation (HKF) The Hawaii Budo Kyokai was established in 1947 (even before the All Japan Kendo Federation) and was renamed Hawaii Kendo Federation in 1955. The HKF consists of 16 dojo practicing kendo and iaido on the islands of Oahu, Hawaii, Kauai and Maui.
[edit] North America
- All United States Kendo Federation (AUSKF) consists of 14 regional members. The regional members comprise a minimum of three kendo clubs, each with a minimum of 50 members. Individual people or clubs cannot be members of the AUSKF.
- Many universities also host collegiate clubs that promote kendo among student communities.
- There also exist Southern California Kendo Federation and Midwest Kendo Federation
- Canadian Kendo Federation (CKF) consists of over 55 member clubs. Clubs belong to CKF directly, although they may also belong to a regional federation. Such federations exist in BC, Ontario and Quebec.
- Federación Mexicana de Kendo (FMK) Mexican Kendo Federation, consists of 4 regional members.
[edit] South America
- In South America, the practice of Kendo has existed since the arrival of Japanese immigrants as early as 1908. Since then and with Brazil as its centre, kendo has spread over South America. Now kendo practitioners and kendo federations exist in many countries in South America such as: Brazil, Argentina, Venezula, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Uruguay, Aruba and Chile.
- At the December 2005 meeting of the FIK (International Kendo Federation) held in Taiwan, the formation of the CSK (South American Kendo Confederation) was discussed and accepted and is expected to ratified in December 2006.
- Argentina, Aruba, Chile, Brazil and Venezuela are affiliated with the FIK. The next South American Kendo championships will be held in Chile during 2007.
- Kendo in Chile started in 1990. The Chilean Kendo Federation was founded in 1997 and became a member of the FIK in 2003. It consists of about 250 kenshi, is part of the CSK (South American Kendo Confederation), and holds Kendo championships annually.
- Kendo in Ecuador started in 1999 in the facilities of the Japanese School of Quito.
- Ken Zen Dojo de Venezuela was founded in 1990 under the auspice of Ken Zen Dojo of New York.
[edit] Europe
- European championships of kendo have been held since 1974. The first took place in England. Kendo has enjoyed increasing popularity in Europe since then. Today there are European championships every year, except in years with world championships (usually every 3 years). The European Kendo Federation, which 32 countries/regions belong to, also promotes jodo and iaido.
- The Austrian Kendo Association was founded in 1985.
- Kendo is promoted by the A.B.K.F., All Belgium Kendo Federation in Belgium.
- Kendo is promoted by the H.K.S., Hrvatski Kendo Savez in Croatia.
- Kendo is promoted by the C.K.F., Czech Kendo Federation in Czech Republic.
- Danish Kendo Federation (Dansk Kendo Forbund,DKF)
- Kendo is promoted by the Finnish Kendo Association in Finland.
- After the end of World War II, many masters of kendo visited France and introduced kendo in the 1950's. The first French kendo championship was held in 1959. France is the current (2007) European champion. Comité National de Kendo
- Kendo is promoted by the Hungarian Kendo Federation (HKF) in Hungary.
- Kendo is promoted by the C.I.K., Confederazione Italiana Kendo.
- Kendo is promoted by Kendo Na h-Éireann, Irish Kendo Federation.
- Kendo is promoted by Lithuanian Kendo Association
- Kendo is promoted by the Knights of Malta Kendo Club in Malta which is affiliated to the Kodokan UK and the British Kendo Association.
- Kendo is promoted by the NKR, Dutch Kendo Renmei.
- Kendo is promoted by Polish Kendo Federation.
- Kendo is promoted by Associação Portuguesa de Kendo (APK), which is affiliated with the European Kendo Federation and the International Kendo Federation.
- Moscow Kendo Association
- Kendo is promoted by the Serbian Kendo Federation in Serbia.
- Kendo is promoted by the Slovenská kendo federácia in Slovak republic.
- Kendo is promoted by the Real Federacion Española de Judo y Deportes Asociados in Spain.
- Kendo is promoted by the kendo section of the Swedish Budo & Martial Arts Federation.
- The Swiss Kendo & Iaido SJV/ASJ was founded in 1967.
- Kendo is promoted by Ankara Kendo Iaido Assocation,ODTÜ Kendo Grubu in Ankara, Istanbul Kendo Club in Istanbul and Turkish Kendo Association.
- A community site Kendo-Turkiye represents Turkish Kenshi.
- Kendo was introduced to the UK by R.A. Lidstone (a western fencing master). Two organisations promote Kendo in the UK, the British Kendo Association,which is affiliated with the International Kendo Federation and the British Kendo Renmei which is not.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Kendo 66 (talk • contribs)
[edit] Costume/uniform
Someone cahnged costume to uniform, and on the basis that "costume" is derogatory. IMHO it is not, and uniform is inaccurate. But perhaps "outfit" or "clothing" would be better? Rich Farmbrough, 15:52 30 January 2007 (GMT).
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- I agree with the above, but like costume. However and as a few days have passed I have changed uniform to clothing. Kendo 66 04:46, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Does this page need semi-protection?
For some reason I cannot understand there is a wave of (pathetic) vandalism hitting this article from various IP-adresses. It's not content-dispute but rather one-liners which sounds like they were made up by a 12 year old. It's been going on for some time, (especially during january), and I was thinking of introducing a semi-protection status on this article until further notice. Comments? Fred26 04:37, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- Doesn't seem like the vandalism is ceasing. I'm gonna propose a suitable protection for this article. Fred26 08:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Kendo 66, You missed Battōjutsu. Please vandalize that one too. Red phase 15:30, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
- Red phase, you have done some very good work on the Iaido page, the tabularisation of the seitagata, for example. However in that you did not use macrons, so I find your current interest in using macrons, well, interesting.
- As explained elsewhere the use of macrons in Japanese words that are in now current use in English is not the modern convention. Words like "Battōjutsu" are probably a grey area, where, say, judo, kendo, iaido are not, as they are widely used in English.
- The use of a macron to explain the pronunciation of a word, at the beginning of articles is quite understandable though.
- And in closing, your use of the word "vandalism" is abusive and inaccurate as is describing me as a "jerk". I would be quite happy to discuss this issue politely.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Kendo 66 (talk • contribs)
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- Or get a couple of shinais and fight it out. (joking there). Yea, be careful with workds like vandalism and jerk. Sometimes its just a legitimate mistake that people make, or a misunderstanding.
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- I do not think that protection is necessary at this point.
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- BTW Does something called "street kendo" really exist? I did see this weblink when I did a Google search http://espytv.com/streetkendo.htm. Maybe this is just a marketting gimick or something. Piercetp 18:17, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Strike images
I'm not a kendoka, but shouldn't the forward foot be hitting the ground simultaneously as contact in the Men photo? VanTucky 21:17, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- Yes. Those are exceedingly bad examples, and I'm not using a very high standard here, even dan-less kendoka should be able to do better. At the very least, no judge should allow some of those hits to score and a real tournament. -RoSeeker 04:15, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
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- Yeah, the strike images should be better. Hopefully someone will donate some un-copyrighted photos or images soon. The "levitating tsuki" is a big eyesore, IMHO. O_o --Gar2chan 21:16, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Intro
Hey, just read the introduction and was shocked how something that POV could find its way into an article and stay there. Ok, it's mind challenging, you develop body and spirit, everything, but maybe you should express it less ambitiously ;). And maybe the elogy on Kendo from the whatever Kendo association Japan should not be in the introduction. --Ben T/C 08:58, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
- I've moved it out of the intro where it should def not have been, someone who know's more should look @ it though. --Nate1481( t/c) 10:13, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] References, sources and citation
Brad 44, I have difficulty in understanding your reasoning for placing this banner on the Kendo page.
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To help me, please list the sections that you challenge for accuracy. Kendo 66 07:39, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
- I would be happy to (and first, please be aware that new topics ought to normally be added to the bottom of a discussion page). At the outset, the reason for tagging the article in the first place is to make the editors (and readers) aware of the most important places that improvement is needed. I'm interested in getting more martial arts related articles moved up the classification scale. This article is currently B-class, and I would like to see it make more progress towards GA-class. With that in mind, the following areas need improvement to make it through GA review.
- {{refimprove}} is the most straightforward. Generally speaking, a good article should have every related block of information cited with an inline citation. At the GA level, this normally means at least every paragraph should be referenced. Obviously, many sections of this article lack any citations at all.
- {{primarysources}} references the fact that there is not enought diversity among sources, and no references not intimately related to the practice of kendo. Citing to the ZNKR for rules and history of the ZKNR is fine, but for general history and other things, published and peer-reviewed work is necessary for a GA class article. See WP:Reliable sources.
- {{citation style}} See WP:CITE#HOW. Citations should use citation templates or a citation manual. I prefer the templates because I think they are easier to use.
- I hope that clears everything up. It would be great to see this article improve! Bradford44 16:15, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Improvements needed to submit for GA review
I see some areas that still need cleanup to submit the article for promotion to GA. I'm going to tag the article for cleanup until they are addressed.
- Pictures. Arrays of pictures are normally not approved of. Pictures should generally relate specifically to points being made within the text that they are near; galleries are discouraged.
- Citation style. Someone came through and cleaned these up a lot, which is great. What still needs to be addressed is that there are not enough, especially in the "History" and "Modern Kendo" sections (at least one reference per paragraph is usually necessary to pass GA. A single source may be repetitively tagged, but it should actually be tagged at the end of every paragraph to which it applies, so readers can tell that the content has been referenced). Also, ref tags should appear inline with the article text they reference, they should never be tagged to section headings.
- There are some deviations from WP:HEAD and WP:MOS-JP that I plan to address.
- "The Concept and Purpose of Kendo" section and subsections need some fleshing out, and a citation for the credo that is quoted.
I'd love to see another martial arts article make GA! Bradford44 02:53, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Where are people interested in Kendo?
hey, i LOVE kendo and sword play, where in the world are other people who do too? Please tell me ur location and prove to me (and my friends) that i'm not a weirdo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WorldConquest (talk • contribs) 18:41, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
- Have a look at http://www.kendo-fik.org/. Chances are you will find a Dojo near you.
- And you are NOT a weirdo. I am into Kendo and it literaly changed my life. It takes hard work and committment but if you got the time and energy its totally worth it. Good luck. Piercetp (talk) 07:29, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Slight error
In the "history" section it states, "Use of the shinai and armour (bogu) made possible the full force delivery of strikes and thrusts without inflicting injury on the opponent. " This is incorrect. I have studied Sakurai-ha Kogen Itto Ryu and I can assure you a full-force kote strike is utterly disabling. I almost had my wrist broken that way. The kote bogu is good, but not THAT good, particularly at the seam over the wrist. We were always trained to "pull" our kote strikes (in other words, NOT to deliver them with full force). The same is true for tsuki strikes. I'm not sure of the validity of them, but there are stories of people who have died from improperly delivered tsuki strikes, or tsuki strikes using faulty equipment. Sorry if I posted this in the wrong place, but I just started using Wikipedia and was unsure where else I could go to bring this to someone's attention. Please forgive me if I haven't followed proper protocol or have inconvenienced you! Zweifachheit (talk) 23:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)Zweifachheit, 3:20 Pacific Standard Time, 02-26-2008
- We don't pull the kote strike, but rather with proper tenouchi it should reabsorb most of its momentum. Some schools train to hit kote with more force than others though, but a properly hit strike should never be disabling in kendo. What you practice sounds more like kenjutsu, which can be dangerous when practiced in bogu with a shinai as tenouchi is not emphasized as the end of the strike, so there's less "bounce" to the hit. Kendo equipment is designed for kendo, jukendo, and naginata only, as far as I know. SamuelRiv (talk) 04:59, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] equipment: shinai size
This article is lacking detailed explanation of the shinai size and I'm thinking about adding this information so the people planning to start kendo will practice with legal shinai.
Under international kendo federation regulations, regulations for shinai are specifically set. Current regulations for the shinai can be seen at [1]
Teppei95070 (talk) 06:58, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi, shinai size and specs for competition are also on the wikipedia shinai page.Kendo 66 11:54, 4 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kendo 66 (talk • contribs)
