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[edit] Splitting Articles: IMPORTANT!

I suggest that a seperate article be created for Armudi Kemençe aka Lyra. The two instruments (the Black Sea kemençe vs Lyra aka Armudi Kemençe) have little in common. Ekindedeoglu 17:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Since no one is responding, I will soon take the liberty of spliting the article myself. I think it proper to create a joint article for the Lyra and the Classical (Armudi) kemençe, for the instrument is exactly the same one. I'm from Turkey, albeit I would think it immoral to group the whole thing under "Armudi Kemençe", for the same thing could be done under "Lyra"... Do you think an article name such as "Armudi Kemençe or Lyra" with redirects from both would be a plausible solution? (The order I chose is alphabetical, but if my Greek neighbors would absolutely prefer "Lyra or Armudi Kemençe", it can also be discussed :) ) By the way, "Kabak Kemane" doesn't have it place in here, it should also be a seperate article, yet I know little about the instrument and would ask someone else to do it. Ekindedeoglu 13:50, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I changed my mind. Apparently in Greek, lyra may also refer to the Pontic kemençe. Before creating the article, I will wait to hear from Greeks to learn if the classical kemençe has a specific name in Greek. We could also keep kemençe as a generic name for the instruments in the article, but with fewer information. A picture gallery featuring different species may also be useful. Thank you. Ekindedeoglu 14:15, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Please check the Russian version of this article. Perhaps some pictures I uploaded to commons can be reused for this article. Avetik 18:31, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Pease don't split this article as it is more easy to find out instruments by name, and it is more interesting to see the difference between them. 77.206.78.148 11:01, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know the Cretan lyra and the Armudi/klasik kemençe are unambiguously identical, while the term lyra in wider Greek usage is a generic term for "fiddle," like the term saz is a generic for "instrument" in wider Turkish usage. I'd like to see 2 pages mysefl... eliotbates (talk) 03:09, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Masters of Classic Kemenche

I don't think that recent inclusion of a list masters of classic kemenche, which of itself is valuable information, is a good fit for this particular article. My suggestion would be to create a separate article with names of performers or, better yet, for each performer to create a separate article. That way article would stay focused on instrument and be readable. Avetik 12:45, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lira calabrese

There appears to be an instrument similar to the classical kemence in Calabria, Italy, called the lira calabrese. See this video. I think we need an article on this. Badagnani (talk) 18:41, 22 March 2008 (UTC)