Talk:Kellie Copeland-Kutz

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More information about this article... The following comments have been left for this page: Contents 1 Rating 2 Rating 3 "Kutz"? 4 Questions about her children's names 5 Notability [edit] Rating I added a rating of Start and Low in importance because, although some information is currently being discussed the article itself is very "bare bones" and, in fact, sounds more like a list of achievements and not a biography. There is a need for photos and the facts need to be updated and referenced.  Gabriello  talk  18:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC) (edit)

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Assessment comments The following comments were left by the assessors: (edit · refresh) [edit] Rating I added a rating of Start and Low in importance because, although some information is currently being discussed the article itself is very "bare bones" and, in fact, sounds more like a list of achievements and not a biography. There is a need for photos and the facts need to be updated and referenced.  Gabriello  talk  18:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

This is my second Wiki project. I've just gotten started and am working on filling in more biographical information and collection of works / ministry contributions. I am currently evaluating cites and sources for factual information of interest regarding notable contributions as an international Youth Minister. A number of biblical study papers for BVOV have been written by her as well as her hosting numerous daily and weekly BVOV television broadcasts for Kenneth Copeland Ministries. I'm going to spend the next few days checking out the free videopodcast listing of BVOV in iTunes to discover notable names / quotes / theology leanings and leads to guest websites of the people she hosted to see if they posted anything to cross reference back to my subject. Wish me well Wikipedians. This article needs a lot of bio work and formatting. CTS10866 01:54, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I started by adding a couple of music-related categories. WAVY 10 14:24, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Kutz"?

I do not think she is married anymore. She calls herself "Kellie Copeland" now and she does not wear her wedding ring.  Tcrow777  talk  20:15, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Ohh-kay! Any more info? WAVY 10 20:28, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Commander Kellie is a friend of mine and I do not wish to slander her, but this is an encyclopedia that needs up-to-date information.

She was never called: "Commander Kellie, the fearless", but she is known as: "Commander Kellie".  Tcrow777  talk  21:35, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Kellie Copeland and Win Kutz are no longer married. He has married someone else and lives in Southwest Fort Worth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.5.107.78 (talk) 19:55, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I read on this website Wiki Answers that the couple separated in 2004 and later were divorced. Can this be confirmed?  Gabriello  talk  01:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd keep that just in case, but I'm not exactly certain what else could be useable here. I'd look for some other sources to back it up, especially if it explains what happened. WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 16:40, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Something to keep in mind is that we need to respect Kellie's privacy while still including encyclopedic information, we don't know all of what happened and it wouldn't be right to include "too much" detail, we should just find out when it happened and include only that it did happen and when it happened. Please ignore my previous comment. Tcrow777 ^Talk 09:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Questions about her children's names

Why do two of her children, Rachel and Lyndsey have the name Ward and two of her children have the name Kutz? Wikipedia says nothing of a first marriage to someone named Ward, nor does it say anything about her current marital status, even though it is true that she goes by the name Copeland and not Win, and as recently as October 10, 2007 she was not observed wearing a wedding ring? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.91.159.178 (talk) 04:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I'll admit that is a good question. I don't know what happened, though I remember the last time she used the last name "Kutz" was around 2003, but apparently some editors wanted to keep the article name as is until we find out what happened. As for the oldest girls (Rachel & Lyndsey), I do remember one incident following Lyndsey's being healed of spinal menigitis where (on an early 1996 BVOV broadcast, she was listed as Lyndsey Kutz; no doubt adding to confusion), as well as the fact Kellie was credited as Kellie Ward for the "Times of Refreshing". Boy, am I confused. WAVY 10 Fan 12:53, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability

I don't have anything much to add, except that I'm from Australia and the feature-length movie "Armor Of Light," starring her, made it over here. Her broadcasts on television do as well. She's definitely notable in that there are things in the real world which point to her notability. Just thought I'd add that, as a webcomics reader who got a little worried about notability Nazis. ---Some Wikipedia Newb from Australia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.193.243.219 (talk) 15:47, 6 January 2008 (UTC)