Talk:Kellenberg Memorial High School

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Assessment: Hello all, and thank you for contributing to this school article. I'm part of the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Schools/Assessment team, and I'm reviewing this page. I'm currently giving it a grade of Start on the Wikipedia 1.0 Assessment Scale and an importance of Low on this importance scale. For information on improving this article, please visit the WikiProject Schools Project Page. My reasoning is as follows: Needs to be formalized and wikified. Also needs work on WP:NPOV especially the controversy sections. Could also use a reorg. Adam McCormick 03:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The edit war

Looks like there's an edit war on this page... I'm not really quite sure what it's about, but the edit summaries of the two people involved seem to suggest that whatever the argument is, it's heated. Could I ask you guys to take it to the talk page instead of constantly editing and re-editing the article? Thanks. Hbackman 06:49, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citations Needed

Can someone give citations for the praise of the school's prestige, student involvement, etc. in the second paragraph? I don't doubt that these statements are true, but without citations they sound like PR.Hickoryhillster 18:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disbanding of Hockey Team

To try to head off anotehr potential revert war over the paragraph over the school hockey star and the disbanding of the hockey team, i tried a compromise version mentioning the disbanding of the team. I actually think the school's judgement that hockey is against its "Catholic philosophy" is interesting and maybe notable, though I would like to see another line of explanation of the school's complaint, along with citation.Hickoryhillster 12:23, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate that the anonymous poster clarified that they were citing one of the letters from the administration. And it's very cool that an athlete from the school won an award from a radio show. But I'm still not seeing why a local radio show award is notable by encylopedic standards. (I notice the 'halftime Howie" show itself has no Wikipedia entry) Hickoryhillster 11:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unverifiability of "prestige" and "reputation" claims

Recent edits about the school's new nickname ("the controversy that never sleeps") have again raised the question of whether claims about presitge and reputation really belong here if they are not confirmed by a published source. In an edit summary, an anonymous editor claims that "common acceptance is the only available citat[tion]" for reputation--this is an interesting claim, and I'd like to see the editor who made it write an essay about it; but I don't think it's part of a Wikipedia policy or guideline. Instead, I think that the policy that applies here is Wikipedia:Verifiability: "any reader should be able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source." Therefore, I'm removing all claims about reputation for now. If there are guides to Catholic schools in which Kellenberg is ranked highly, or even news articles in which it is referred to as a prestigious school, then I think that those citations would warrant putting the reputation claims back in. I would be willing to put "the school that never sleeps" back in with the citation to Westbury Times, although I do see the point that one student using that phrase doesn't prove that it is widely used.

-Hickoryhillster 14:19, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citations needed

Several facts in student activities need citation, preferably from third-party sources. Mentioning the media outlets that carried the story about prom is not a citation. A static link to an article about prom cancellation would be a valuable citation. Ezratrumpet 04:17, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Miriam Crujeiras arrest information

Information about Miriam Crujeiras, particularly her name, has been removed from the article more than once: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kellenberg_Memorial_High_School&diff=190331898&oldid=190200972 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kellenberg_Memorial_High_School&diff=164197914&oldid=164194918)

It appears that someone on her or the school's behalf is removing this factual, cited information. Please monitor edits in the faculty section closely so that this does not happen again.

But is a credit card fraud of less than $1,000 truly encyclopedic? I see that the information is cited and believe that it's factual, but, from the point of view of the average encyclopedia reader, it doesn't seem particularly important or relevant. I'd like to take it out, but I'm interested in hearing your reasoning. --Hickoryhillster (talk) 17:36, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Relevance of credit card fraud incident

A normal case of credit card fraud probably wouldn't really be news, but this case in particular stands out. Not only was thief a high school teacher, but she actually used a credit card that belonged to a student of her school. Also remember that this school is characterized by controversy (just the fact that it has a "Controversies" section says alot). In light of the nature of this event, and in light of the controversy that surrounds the school, I believe that this incident is both interesting and highly relevant to the article as a whole.