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[edit] Ducky Approved needs a parent

I noticed that Category:Ducky Approved appears in Special:Uncategorizedcategories, so I gave a parent. Fplay 07:52, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Image

Hi, you might be interested in this Image:Flag of Northern Ireland2.svg - Made it using your one and credited as per the creative commons thingy - Hope you like: It can be scaled to pretty much any size :) --Mistress Selina Kyle (Α⇔Ω ¦ ⇒✉) 01:51, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

That looks great, thanks. Keith Greer 11:47, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Devolved Union?

Hey there. Was just looking at your userpage and noticed that you have userboxes - I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to leave Wikipedia, as you are creating division and strife within the community, which I don't think should really exist and doesn't really care about Wikipe...

Sorry - I've been channelling Kelly Martin all day now. I was actually looking at your userboxes and wondering how it was that you could support devolution within the UK, and yet still be in favour of the union. It was only just now whilst writing this, that I pieced together the green union jack and the phrase, "unionist" and realised that those in Ireland use that word in a different manner to me. So... there you go.

Seriously though, the two do seem to contradict each other, even if you're talking about the Northern Ireland situation as opposed to the mainland. - Hayter 23:24, 11 January 2006 (UTC)


Howdy, I am a Unionist and believe that Northern Ireland is better off within the United Kingdom, but I also believe that we, well all the regions of the UK, should be able to make some decisions (health, transport, education etc) for ourselves. I think the confusion is the word "Devolution" is not the devolution of the Union, but devolution of some law making ability to the regions.
Currently this is happening in Scotland and Wales, and to a lesser extent Grater London, but here all the decisions about Health, Education, and more importantly for me University Top-up fees, are made by Labour MPs who have probably never even been to Northern Ireland. Labour also do not canvas in Northern Ireland, so none of them have even been elected by people in Northern Ireland.
If we had our own assembly, within the UK (that's the important part of the userbox) then like Scotland we would have no top-up fees, none of the main Northern Ireland parties supported them (DUP, Sinn Fein, UUP, SDLP). It’s a bit like in the United States or France where each state/region has its own legislature but there is also a central Government who looks after Foreign Policy, Taxes etc.
I doubt that made much sense but there it is. You will find that most people in Northern Ireland support some level of autonomy for the region, but some think its part of a long-term re-unification of Ireland, others hope it’s just part of devolution and will go no further. Thanks for stopping by. - Keith Greer 23:50, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

I have just realised you are Scottish, I wrote that as if I was talking someone from England, or outside the UK. - Keith Greer 23:55, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks, 'tis all sorted. - TheKeith 18:22, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Okay, was te image based on any images (which you may have changed the colour of ect)?
I got the image a while ago I believe it was listed as GFDL. That's why I used that particular image, it was for my personal site. I will search for him again and post a link. - TheKeith 19:00, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userpage

Also, regarding your userpage, I see you have a copyrighted tag and CC-by-sa-nc 2.0 UK licence. It is (as far as I am aware) NOT suitable to tag a page as copyrighted, or infact to use that licence, because Wikipedia as mirrored by comercial sites, and it is stated content may be used for comercial purposes. Please modify your page as appropriate, or it may have the content removed ect. Thanks! Ian13ID:540053 18:33, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

I didn't know that, thanks for telling me! Anyhoo, I don't tink there is really anything on my userpages worth copyrighting anyway. - TheKeith
Ah, no problem, just thought I would mention it so you didn't suddenly find your page stripped of content. Good luck! Ian13ID:540053 19:16, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Guinness logo.png

I'm afraid this image is fair use. Fair use images are not allowed on user pages. Could you remove it please?Geni 19:32, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

No prob, Im just going through everything anyway, thanks - TheKeith

[edit] User Template NI

Left you a message on my talk page. --Mal 17:28, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

lol I like the text in the new Norn Iron user template! --Mal 06:15, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] BBC 24

I like the current version of the BBC 24 userbox. Good parody. I also like what you've done with your (first) userpage. - Hayter 21:03, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, It's my new policy on userboxes, I created, which were turned into intrest templates by admins. - TheKeith 15:20, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Northern Irish" or "of Northern Ireland"?

Hi Keith. I was wondering if you had any opinion on this. I have noticed that the vast majority of, for example, sports categories for UK regions all seem to follow the collective demonym pattern... English.. Welsh.. Scottish etc. We folk from Northern Ireland... that is - the Northern Irish - seem to be treated with exception for some unknown reason. A person from Canada suggested that "Northern Ireland" was a less "controversial" usage (presumably he'd prefer the term "Northern Irelander"!). A person from New Zealand suggested that people on IRC do not particularly like the "non-standard" term "Northern Irish".

Personally, I can't see that either of these two suggestions ring true and I can't understand why these suggestions have been made. As you probably know, I'm Northern Irish born and bred. I've never known the term "Northern Irish" to be controversial. Several polls taken throughout the last couple of decades (usually by the Tele) suggest that "Northern Irish" is a favoured cross-community national description. It rivals both "Irish" and "British", though I can't remember if it is more popular than either or than both.

Anyway, I've given you my thoughts on the matter. As someone from Northern Ireland(!), and a Northern Irish Wikipedian, I wonder if you'd take a look at the notice board and give your vote if you feel strongly one way or the other. My sole reason for renaming the particular category (and hopefully the others) is standarisation and correct usage.

In all honesty, I think that more people who are actually from Northern Ireland should voice their opinions, instead of leaving 'concensus' in the hands of people NOT from here, who don't necessarily understand.. or worse - those who think they understand.

Anyway, if you're interested, or have the time, please look at both the Northern Irish Wikipedians' notice board and the UK Wikipedians' notice board.

Cheers. --Mal 12:32, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

I, personally, consider myself Northern Irish (of the Provence), Irish (of the Island) and British (of the United Kingdom) the tri-nationality is one of the pluses of living in Northern Ireland. Generally there are very few of us from Northern Ireland on Wikipedia and so are usually outvoted, which is something you get used to, lol. I haven't taken a look at the notice boards for a few days, going straight there. Northern Irish is usually used by people of both sides of the political divide, it's kind of a middle ground which seems to be growing especially among young people, I have noticed it used alot around uni. - TheKeith 18:28, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I consider my identities on the exact same lines as you, and would include "Ulsterman", though not out of political expediency. Your point, as well as mine, is that there is nothing contentious about the use of the label "Northern Irish" specifically because it is the "middle ground", as you say. I should point out that the categories I created that had the adjective "Northern Irish" have, I think, now been deleted. What I propose is to create another vote on ALL of the categories, and to hopefully attract Northern Irish wikipedians to vote on the matter, regardless of their political ideology. To start this, I have made an admin aware that I might ask him how to go about this from a technical (wikipolicy) standpoint... but I think Northern Irish wikipedians should be made aware of a possible vote before it starts.

You know, its strange, but I think some of the non-native Wikipedians seem to think "Northern Irish" is somehow contentious. I've never known anyone (except for perhaps one or two extremists from BOTH 'sides') to have been in any way offended by the term. Thanks for taking time to read what I've had to say etc. Its kind of a minor issue in the grand scale of things, but I consider my proposal to be logical, and to be driven by logic 100%. --Mal 18:43, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi mate. Thanks for the vote of confidence on the NI Portal etc. So far I've noticed about three people from NI that appears to be actively contributing.. and that's including myself (you and StuMason are the other two)! So basically, the pages need as much help as possible. There's some kind of problem with 3 of the pics on the NI Portal page: George Best, Van Morrison and Samson & Goliath. They don't show up on Internet Explorer 6, so I've reported it as a bug.

As for the changing of Northern Ireland to Northern Irish.. I'm going to wait for a while to see if any other Northern Irish editors actually notice anything. There's no point in attempting to vote on the matter if there's only a couple of Northern Irish folk that vote, and for us to be out-voted by non-Northern Irish who don't understand what they're talking about.

There has also been the suggestion that all the other UK region categories follow an apparent naming convention to which the Northern Ireland categories already adhere. That would be acceptable to me tbh, as the point is that I think they should all be of the same format. That's basically the only reason I'm considering setting up a vote. I'd prefer "Northern Irish" because it makes better sense to me grammatically though. --Mal 17:05, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] UUC

So how long is your course? Is it a 'sandwich' course, with work experience for a year, or what? --Mal 01:36, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Aye - I only did the HND in computing though, at UUC. I had planned on going on to do a one year 'upgrade' course which would have turned my HND into a degree but, for personal reasons, I had to drop out of uni completely. Good luck at it anyway mate. :) --Mal 16:30, 11 March 2006 (UTC)


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Howzthat? - TheKeith 01:00, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Excellent, cheers. I see that it's not currently used in an article. Unless it is used in an article, there's no point in having it on wikipedia. Would you like to add it to an article? Otherwise we can tag it for deletion. Also, when you upload images, could you please use a meaningful, descriptive name? Thanks. Take care. :) The JPS 11:47, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hullo here

How is UUC these days by the way? Are you based in the South Buildings mostly? I'm not going to mention "Geography"!

Oh btw ... you can add yourself to the UUC category now. Ermm.. I added it - probably under ... Frig it... here...

Wikipedia:Wikipedians by alma mater#University of Ulster, Coleraine

lol --Mal 07:59, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

So far so good, almost finished my first year, woo hoo! All my computing labs are in South, my lectures are all in Central, got myself added thanks. To be honest The Geography isn't that bad, 1000 word essay about the Political and Religious Segregation in Belfast, sounds worse than it really is. - TheKeith 15:24, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Man, have you seen this person's userpage? User:Fenian Swine

I'm lodging a complaint. --Mal 12:32, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi, yes, hmmm, lol, I really don't see much point, some people are always going to talk the freedom of their user page too far. It's best to just let them live in their little fantasy world, while the rest of us get on with writing the encyclopedia. If you get anywhere with the complaint give me a shout. - theKeith 17:35, 19 March 2006 (UTC)