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[edit] Question about your Hanbok photo

Hi, this is a friendly enquiry about Image:Hanbok-kids.jpg; it contains no source information (who shot it when, where, etc.) which seems to be against policy.

If you took the photo yourself, could you say so on the image's page, please? I had to unlink a lot of images from the Hanbok article because of images with no source info. I hope your photo can stay. :) --Kjoonlee 07:50, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Didn't I already do that with the 'I the creater of....etc. etc.'...anyway I added some more information. Kbarends 09:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much. ^_^
The reason I decided to ask was because sometimes people upload non-free images with "GFDL" or "PD-self" tags in order not to be warned for a policy violation. I had no doubt about your image being legitimate, and I'm very grateful for your quick response. Thank you again. :) --Kjoonlee 11:35, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Choi Yong Sul entry

Thanks for the words of encouragement.

I took another look at it this morning after receiving your compliment to try to make sure it was worthy and improved the references! :) --Mateo2006 13:53, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

The format I'm using there is still a little inconsistant and probably not the recommended one at WIKI but I'm learning.

I tried to fairly represent the sources, but as you well know, it is hard.

The postumously released Rim interview has many facts of key importance that we know not to be true. Even the most recent TKD Times Lim Hyun Soo interview has things like the following; "One day, in 1944, Dojunim Choi's Japanese teacher, Takeda Sokaku, told him to "Go to Korea and teach martial arts to Koreans." etc. The fact that Sokaku had already died by that time really serves to undercut the value such stories. :) Once one faces a glaring mistruth it calls other facts from the same source into question ... and yet if we don't use them we don't have anything to go on at all.

I think that some followers of important teachers like Ji may wish that the Choi Yong Sul article had more in there about their teachers but as they don't offer much in the way of information on him so it didn't really seem germaine at the time writing.

The articles 'class status' would probably get immediately bumped up with a photograph but I don't know how to go about posting one within the stringent copyright rules adhered to here. Perhaps there is something you could place up there?

I'd really like to rework the hapkido article for a better narative consistancy but fear ruffling too many feathers so I just added things to it. What do you think about that?--Mateo2006 12:49, 21 December 2006 (UTC)


Don't worry about the feathers ;-) They need some ruffling now and then. Over at hapkidoforum.com I already asked once if there were people who had a rights-free picture of Choi. I didn't get much response. Kbarends 13:23, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for trying. :) That's all we can do. I asked Barrie as he had some nice one's in his article. He told that the magazines seem less worried about copyright on pictures than Wikipedia!--Mateo2006 13:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 'Yoseikan' and 'Yoseikan Budo' Entries

Hey Klaas,

I just wanted to get your opinion on the idea of merging the 'Yoseikan' and 'Yoseikan Budo' articles.

The first I spent some time developing from its 'stubbiness' not realizing that a second entry also existed. I have emphasized the school as developed by Mochizuki Minoru, the latter has emphasized the school as developed by his son Hiroo. I noticed when looking at the history that references to the father's art and people who still practise it seemed to have been minimized through edits in favour the art practised by the son.

I'm think that if I merge the two I'll raise some hackles so I'm fishing for opinions at the moment. :)

Any feelings on this? --Mateo2006 21:08, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hwang In-Shik

Klaas,

I wanted to put a photo in a nice table like you did for Myung Jae Nam article but I messed it up and got his hangul and hanja along with it. I can't seem to get rid of them without losing the photo. Is assistance possible here? Sorry!--Mateo2006 12:24, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Mateo, you probably want to upload a bigger picture. The template scales it automatically. Kbarends 14:01, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks the assistance there. I really appreciate that. Still getting to know my way around the system here in a few respects.--Mateo2006 04:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Look here

Wikipedia:Barnstar and award proposals --evrik (talk) 21:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar. I don't know how it is decided who gets one of these babies but it is good feedback that the stuff I have been adding is going in the right direction. best--Mateo2006 12:30, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hapkido Article

Klaas,

It appears that some people don't like some of the changes I've made to the "hapkido" section (see Hapkido: talk). I thought it odd that someone would take such exception to the fact that I removed a reference to an article which was not the source for the sentence that I wrote. (Perhaps my memory is lapsing and I didn't write it?)

I don't know perhaps poster HKD has some connections to Scott Shaw as he seems very fond to posting Shaw related info.

Also I thought that before the introduction and early part of the article was filled with negative comments about information included and so appear to be more of an internal argument rather than an article. Actually I received comments to that effect by others. It seems to be heading back in that direction.

Any thoughts on this? Would you like to wade in on the talk section?

You can see why I hestitated to make further changes to this article. :) --Mateo2006 12:01, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Myung jae nam.jpg

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[edit] Hapkido Article

I see you undid a revision that continues to keep popping stating that Master Ji was imprisoned for 'suspected tax fraud'. Thanks for that. This is clearly not what is written in the book cited. I've undone this revision before. I think we will probably have to undo it again as the anonymous user doesn't seem to care to take things to the Talk section. I thought putting the reference down would dissuade the changes but obviously this is not the case.

I've also had problems with Keith Stuart or one students continuing to post his name in an inaccurate context in the Hwang In-Shik article for what I assume are reasons of self promotion. I suppose there is nothing we can do to avoid these kinds of back and forth revisions other than give up?--Mateo2006 07:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lim Hyun Soo

The Lim Hyun Soo article is obviously the result of cut and paste from the website.

I mentioned it in the Talk section and posted on JungKiKwan's page the need for changes to make it suitable but thus far we haven't seen any action there.

I myself do not feel qualified or motivated to make the changes myself.

Do you think this article should be flagged? It would be good to have a section on Lim there but having no idea of the truth of many of Lim's assertions I don't wish to do so myself.--Mateo2006 07:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Neither do I, I don't know anything about him apart from what is already on the web. Kbarends 10:08, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Could you help me write this article?

Hello,

I was wondering if you would be willing to help me write either Seikichi_Iha or Shorin-ryu_Shido-kan. Tkjazzer 21:48, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ji Han Jae

I noticed that a fellow who had done 3 undos on the Yoseikan Budo articles got warned by someone but I don't know who to alert on something like this. I had the same problem with the Hwang In-Shik article but I just gave up on that one because of l;ack of knowledge on my part. you know I could care less if Ji went to jail for tax fraud or for conspiring. I just wanted the quote to be true to the source. Maybe we need to ask some editors who are more experienced.--Mateo2006 01:47, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I think that the length on the Ji article was a function of it having been written before the main Ji article. Unfortunately I'm sure we have just transferred the problem rather than having solved it. Oh well! : ) --Mateo2006 11:01, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for undoing that deletion on the Ji article, Klaas. I will be in violation of the 3 revisions within in 24 hour rules myself if I do any more before tomorrow night. : )

I do plan to build up all areas of the Ji article, not just the unattractive political aspects.--Mateo2006 02:51, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hapkido

Any thoughts on the changes that I have made on the main hapkido page? (Removing much of the yudo information and using a 'throwing' section instead/adding to joint manipulations, wrist and elbow locks/kicking sections.) Do you think the article is moving in the right direction? I plan to finish the elbow locks section and expand the weapons sections shortly.--Mateo2006 02:31, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spam And Such

Just so you know, whenever you see a new page that appears to be spam, just put {{db-spam}} at the top of the page to mark it as such. The tag will also give you the appropriate tag to place on the creator's talk page after you tagged his/her article. Hope that helps, and happy editing. :) -WarthogDemon 23:22, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dead links

Klaas, sometimes I notice you indicating internal links to non-existing articles. I know you are not making a mistake. I'm just trying to understand your thinking on this one. Do you do this in the hopes of motivating people to create the article? I ask only because I noticed after removing some dead links that they had been inserted by yourself and I don't want to work across purposes with you. Best ---Mateo2006 13:31, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

That's cool. As I thought. : ) --Mateo2006 01:51, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photos

I noticed that people were using various rationales for 'fairuse' for the photographs and have added to the Choi Yong Sul, hapkido, Lim Hyun Soo, Daito-ryu, Ueshiba Morihei and Sokaku Takeda articles. Do you think that my photos will stand or get deleted? I began to become less conservative when I noticed the Steve Sexton photos and others being left alone with the less to merit their use.--Mateo2006 02:12, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Naming Conventions

Our Wiki rules state that "for a historical figure (a person born before the first year of Meiji (1868)), always use" the family name first. For those born after 1868 use the Western order. I always wondered why? Did Japan become a Western country after 1868? They certainly didn't adopt this convention themselves and we don't adopt a similar convention for Korea.

Daito-ryu persents a awkward situation in that the proper Wiki way of render the founder of Daito-ryu is Takeda Sokaku while the his son's name should be written Tokimune Takeda. I think this quite hard to follow for the average reader. It would seem a consant rule for name order would better serve ease in reading than a close following of the Wiki rule. Thoughts out there?--Mateo2006 22:37, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I would say you are right. For Koreans I always use the Korean order unless the person is better known otherwise (Koreans who have a western firstname, like Richard Kim or something like that). I don't know a lot about Japanese names, but for most Koreans I try to write it as in 'Myung Jae-nam', family and then the two given names seperated by a dash. However this does not always apply to the article name, because a person might be better known as Myung Jae Nam. Kbarends 23:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Qi

Check out the "qi" page I tried to make a baby step toward including some Korean references there. Perhaps you could add something more?--Mateo2006 08:02, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Master Tae Man Kwon's connection to Yong Sul Choi

Master Kwon stated that he studied under Ji Han Jae but did learn through seminars from Yong-Sul Choi. He studied at the same time and places as many of the other masters listed there. He does not say that he was a direct student of Choi and that he was a student of Ji Han Jae but states that he had as much association with Choi as many of the other masters listed in the bottom section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deankwon (talk • contribs) 09:57, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] License tagging for Image:Samgyeopsal.jpg

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[edit] Thank you

for your contributions to Korean cusine articles at Netherland Wiki. I appreciate your all effort to create articles related to Korean cuisine. The articles here are also stubs, with your help, they are introduced to people outside of Korea. Keep up the good work. I should've made a Barnstar award of Korea and given to you. :) Thanks again.--Appletrees (talk) 13:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Not a problem. I enjoy eating Korean food so much, this is the least I can do. ^^ Kbarends (talk) 14:18, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Combat Hapkido

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