Talk:Kaylee Frye

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Contents 1 Redirect. 2 Strawberries 3 Kaylee's Age 4 Relations with Simon

[edit] Redirect.

I think the character and episode info should go into the main Firefly (TV series) article, and not in seperate ones. If it's decided to split it up, this one should be changed to Kaylee: see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names). — Jeandré, 2004-10-18t19:36z

See also Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Boone, Bogdanov, Russell, Ai re keeping character information in the main article. — Jeandré, 2004-10-21t21:07z

She would have to be a bit more known in pop culture, the way Mr. Spock is, for example. I say put a redirect to the part in the Firefly article that talks about her. -Arctic.gnome 05:59, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Disagree. I believe it's more consistent, at the very least, to have every crewmember of Serenity have their own page. -b 19:29, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Strawberries

Okay, I don't think Kaylee had enough onscreen experiences with strawberries to call it a "running joke", though it might have turned into one if the series continued beyond season one. -- Masterzora 06:18, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

We fans are always looking to read more into every action, gesture, and word that occurs within a work than is necessarily put there. That's why we aren't supposed to synthesize original conclusions from the raw data. Even when the artists behind the work truly intend to set up connections, it is not for us to piece them together, especially without definitive statements from authoritative, wiki-reliable sources. The current wording of the paragraph on strawberries, in my humble opinion, skirts the line but doesn't seem to cross it. "Has shown an affinity" is appropriately vague based on the sparse evidence, but that also lands the paragraph in the category of questionably trivial information. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 01:27, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kaylee's Age

Is it ever reveled what Kaylee's age is during the Series, or movie? I don't really think it's very important, but I think it would shed more light on her character. Avador 06:49, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

We know she's about River's age, and we know River's seventeen years old (forgot which episode). No much, but its a start.

Roswell Crash Survivor 07:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

How do we know they're about the same age? Don't get me wrong, I'm willing to take odds that Kaylee's not thirty years older than River, but we've got nothing to support that they're particularly close, either.JBK405 21:44, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I thought Kaylee was between the age of 20 to 23. I know she is in her early 20's that it.

Speculation and personal testimony is pointless. We need reliable sources. Is there anything in the Firefly canon (not fan-produced material!) that says anything about her age? ~ Jeff Q (talk) 01:20, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

I have not read it in a while but i will check the companion book for the show. If it does then i will look some where on the net for that page and put it here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.226.221.250 (talk) 22:50, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Relations with Simon

Simon himself almost never gets mad at Kaylee, the only time being Objects in Space where Kaylee revealed River's disturbing expert use of a handgun, which placed a dark cloud over River in the eyes of the others, which in turn angered Simon, although he was able to control it.[citation needed]

Substitute "disturbingly" for "disturbing" as a minor grammatical point.
Having just watched the episode, I don't see any anger in Simon's attitude to Kaylee about this revelation. I only see resignation to a further complicating factor. Simon (to my eyes) accepts that Kaylee had to reveal this information to the rest of the crew, though he'd probably have liked to have known about it before the event, because knowing about this could have altered his clinical/ psychological assessment of his sister's injuries. Slight disappointment, resignation to another complicating factor, but nothing approaching anger.

A Karley (talk) 21:55, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

This is exactly why these analyses, driven by our need to wax eloquent abour our favorite shows, are almost never good material for Wikipedia articles. It is also a major contributing factor to the drive to eliminate character articles. We fans routinely shoot ourselves in the foot with this stuff. We simply can't help adorn these articles with our personal beliefs of what is happening inside the heads of the characters. If TV Guide, People, or some non-vanity-published book make these points, we can summarize them with appropriate citations. Otherwise, they should be removed. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 01:31, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I second Jeff Q's concern. --Knulclunk (talk) 04:14, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

+1 VigilancePrime (talk) 04:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)