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[edit] Kaworu's Gender

The article states "Kaworu is... an asexual androgyne". Because this information is not explicitly presented in ep. 24 of the series, I was wondering if there was any way of verifying the validity of this statement. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Capthauq (talk • contribs) .

You'd think that if he were androgynous it would have come out in the bathhouse wouldn't you? Why don't I just change None (appears male) to Male (?) ? 67.21.80.96 19:21, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kaworu's Birthdate

Does anyone else find it interesting that Kaworu's human form should be born on the very day of the Second Impact?-R.G. 22:20, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kaworu and Kaji?

Did anyone else think that it was extremely odd that Kaworu and Kaji had the same voice in the dubbed anime, as well as the same sort of mannerisms? Well, other than the blatant flirtation. I was originally lead to believe that Kaworu was taken from Kaji's DNA, but given that he was "born", I'm wondering. Given Kagi's connection to SEELE as well as his connection to Shinji, maybe it's possible that his DNA was used, or maybe he was even Kaworu's father. He would have been 15-- fairly young, but still. My personal opinion is, that if there's a connection, it leans towards Kaworu from Kaji's DNA, or at least purposefully taking on some kind of characteristic from Kaji for some reason. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.72.98.45 (talk • contribs) .

Your speculation is interested but that is probably false. Hiroki Sato, the director and spokesman of GAINAX said that Kaworu had no special model while declared Rei Ayanami was modeled on Yui Ikari :moreover Kaworu and Kaji have the different voice in Japanese original series. -Rider of Midland 05:17, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, the same voice actor doesn't always imply a direct connection. For example, Scott McNeil played four seperate characters during the Transformers series, Beast Wars (Dinobot, Waspinator, Silverbolt and Rattrap, I believe.) That's your totally unrelated tidbit for the day. Onslaught Six 07:58, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] homosexuality

Would it be worth mentioning in the homosexuality section that Kaworu seems to have a lisp in the English dub, which is commonly associated with homosexuals (at least in American culture)? --Capibara 01:07, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Would it be worth mentioning? No, not really. There is no way anyone would find a lisp in either english dub. Drunktrumpet 20:37, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I took a shot at rewriting the section to weed out the speculative content and de-weasel it. Hopefully, I succeeded, or at least put it on the right track. I also took out the weasel template, but if anyone has objections or sees weasely content in my edits, please replace it. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 18:16, 18 December 2006 (UTC)


I find it incredoulous that anyone would think of Tabris as a homosexual/heterosexual. He is an angel/apostole (i.e. of another world) who expresses nothing but pure love for another being. There is no sexual inference to be gotten at all on Kaworu's part. He/She/It acts the way any being would act trying to figure out humanity and all its trappings. Slightly bizzare and odd. I am not homophobic at all. But it amuses me to no end when certain memebers of a group feel the need to project its lifestyle/genetic bearing unto anything that might lend itself credence in popular culture. Maybe Jesus was gay, he did say that he loved all men. Right? Drunktrumpet 19:47, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree; I don't think normal sexual roles can be assigned to Kaworu. Still, as long as this series exists, there will be those who only see the surface of his interactions with Shinji and infer homosexual overtones. It can't be helped or avoided. Also, in regards to the section about this issue in the article: Personal views are not appropriate content for Wikipedia. The facts of the content in the series and the notes about the fan debate are all that belong in that section. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 20:19, 27 February 2007 (UTC)


Duly noted. Drunktrumpet 20:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] End of Evangelion

Is the info presented in the last edit about Kaworu merging with Adam after his death cited anywhere? Willbyr (talk | contribs) 06:13, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Something that I've been thinking about in EoE, tying into the debate about whether or not Kaworu and Shinji are in love: Does fan debate include Shinji's reaction to when Lilith/Rei changes into Kaworu, just before the start of Instrumentality? Willbyr (talk | contribs) 20:59, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kaworu's line to Shinji

In the article, the sentence about Kaworu saying that he "likes" Shinji is a bit muddled. Does anyone know the exact line in Japanese that Kaworu says to Shinji? Seems to me that it would be easier to give the line in Japanese and then explain that the term can mean either "like" or "love". Willbyr (talk | contribs) 05:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

In Japanese line Kaworu seid to Shinji as below:
Kaworu: ガラスのように繊細だね、特に君の心は
Shinji: 僕が？
Kaworu: そう、好意に値するよ
Shinji: コウイ？
Kaworu: 好きってことさ
I don't know how these lines was translated in English dub, but I feel "like" is more suitable for "好意" and "好き" than "love" is. However it is a difficult translation. Rider of Midland 05:56, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How is Kaworu?

How does Kaworu appear in Lilith if his soul was never collected by Rei?--Sandmen never sleeps 02:07, 1 December 2006 (UTC)Ganderman 7:34 23 November 2006

I'd guess that the "Rei comming to get you" we see was just to kill and lower live people AT Field at the same time. I mean, no dead souls are ever shown yet they're most likely collected as well, Kaworu being one proof of that. What's not clear to me is wheter dead souls have AT Field or not. --Caue (T | C) 04:54, Tuesday 2007-04-10 (UTC)


[edit] When did....?

When, in the series, did they say that Kaworu's soul was put into Adam? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ganderman (talk • contribs).

You've got it backwards. If I remember right, Kaworu tells Rei in the director's cut of ep. 24 that he is the vessel for Adam's soul, just as Rei is the vessel for Lilith's soul. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 02:42, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
UPDATE: Hang on...if you're referring to the line where Kaworu's soul was placed in the embryonic Adam after he was killed by Shinji, I don't have an answer for that. I'm not comfortable with that line and haven't been since I first saw it, but I don't have a source to say anything different. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 02:45, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't remember them saying that they put his soul into Adam's body and if it not said in the series, I'm going to get rid of that line in the article.--Ganderman 15:24, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rejected form

If Angels are rejected forms of humanity as Misato said, and mankind is the 18th angel, why is Kaworu in the form of a normal human? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dave175 (talk • contribs).

Well, lots of things about this series is about point of view. There are 16 angels born from Adam shown, and just humans would be born from Lilith, although the EVAs are also somewhat childs of Lilith... So maybe Kaworu would be the "human child" from Adam, while all other humans, including Rei, would be "human child" from Lilith. Anyway, I don't think anything on the 26 episodes explain Kaworu's form. --Caue (T | C) 05:07, Tuesday 2007-04-10 (UTC)

[edit] Soundtrack

Anyone can please tell me what's the song played both on episode 24 and the death(true2) when Kaworu rushes to find Adam? That's probably easy to find anywhere, but I don't know its name! --Caue (T | C) 05:12, Tuesday 2007-04-10 (UTC)

This is (appropriately) Beethoven's Symphony No. 9 in D minor Op. 125, the choral. It can be found on the Additions soundtrack. Dfrauzel 07:14, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notes on Kaworu's design

Should the notes about the initial designs for Kaworu be copied from the main Evangelion article to this one? Willbyr (talk | contribs) 14:02, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Why not? --Gwern (contribs) 16:24 23 April 2007 (GMT)
I didn't see a reason not to, I just wanted to make sure that it wouldn't be seen as redundant. If no one else does this, I'll try to take care of this sometime tonight. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 16:39, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Physically Receptive"

"Shinji is unusually open, emotional, and physically receptive when around Kaworu, more so than with any of the other principal characters, while Kaworu treats him with a level of kindness and camaraderie that is completely unfamiliar to Shinji."

Could someone enlighten me regarding what that's supposed to mean? That word "receptive" (or a form of recieve; I cant quite recall) is also used in Asuka's article in (what I feel might be) a more appropriate yet similar context, or atleast one that is more widely understood. --Surfaced 12:07, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

That pertains to Shinji willingly allowing Kaworu to be in his personal space more than any other character (especially in the bath house sequence; if any other character had tried to approach him in that manner, he'd most likely have withdrawn like he'd done previously in the series). Willbyr (talk | contribs) 12:46, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I understand now. Thanks for clarifying that.--Surfaced 15:44, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kaworu's Purpose?

I think someone needs to make note of what SEELE sent Kaworu to NERV to do in the first place. I'm not entirely sure myself. Why would they want him to come into contact with Lilith in the first place? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.39.214.112 (talk • contribs) 10:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edits

The section on the Japanese interpretations of Kaworu's name needs serious help. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 17:52, 25 July 2007 (UTC)