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We are a group of students and just amazed how Kathmandu has grown during last 4 years. Thus the change we just made in the population figure of the whole Kathmandu valley. -- Greeting from Kathmandu!
I am reverting anon's changing the description of the sculpture as being of "Kali" as being of "Bhairav". I am doing this because "Kali" is how the National Geographic Magazine I got the image from describes it, and we have a Kali article, but at present none for Bhairav, and no articles link there. For all I know the old National Geographic may be wrong and the anon editor right; if so feel free to change it back, but some explanation would be appreciated, as would at least a start on an article about Bhairav, if appropriate. -- Infrogmation 19:42, 29 Apr 2004 (UTC)
The sculpture is called in Nepali "Kalo Bhairab" ("Black Bhairav"); I believe National Geographic confused this with the name Kali. (There is another statue of Bhairav in the area called "Seto Bhairab" ["White Bhairav"].) A Google image search on "kalo bhairab" will pull up a couple of modern picture of this statue and Kerry Moran's "Nepal Handbook" (ISBN 0-918373-64-4) also identifies it as such.
Bhairav (in Hindi; Nepali Bhairab, Sanskrit Bhairava) is the name of the fearsome aspect of Shiva. --Anon
I've deleted the claim that Kathmandu was established in 764AD and added more detail on its history--P Funk 16:47, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Demographics
I don't know where the figure of 3.2 million comes from, but it is absolutely wrong. The city of Kathmandu has roughly 800,000 people, the city of Lalitpur (Patan) 200,000. Last year I listed all Nepali cities with recent population figures in Wikipedia, but it disappeared, so I'm writing these figures from memory. There are a number of smaller cities and communities in the Valley that make up the metropolitain area, such as Bhaktapur (70,000), Madyapur-Thimi and Kirtipur, both under 50,000. Even with all the many smaller places, that never adds up to 3 million! One could draw the cicle around Kathmandu larger and perhaps add Banepa, Panauti and Dhulikhel, but that hardly adds another 100,000. While I'm at it, the maps don't quite depict the sizes of Nepali cities correctly. Biratnagar still is the 2. or 3. largest city in the country, but it is marked as a smaller place than e.g. Hetauda. Rony Liebheit, Stuttgart, Germany
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[edit] Who over said this?
Never in the history of the entire country Kathmandu been known as Lalitpur. Patan is still known as Lalitpur even today. Merishi 07:51, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Could somebody please explain the phrase "known for its catmen" to me? I have looked for the term and not come up with anything connected to Kathmandu or Nepal.
[edit] what about the company?
There is a company called Kathmandu which doesn't appear to have any reference. Should that be included in this page or should there be a disambiguation page? Cigale 22:33, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
- No. Looks like a non-remarkable company.Billlion 07:39, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
- Its a major chain with stores in Australia and New Zealand, I think it deserves a disambiguation header. -- Chuq 01:10, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- After a quick google, it appears they are in the UK as well. -- Chuq 01:14, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- Very interesting (and telling) that a contributor above would suggest that disambiguation is not necessary because the contributor deems the clothing producer of the same name “a non-remarkable company.” The function of creating a disambiguation page is to clarify and assist in alleviating confusion. Why should the company need to be remarkable in order to warrant a disambiguation page? I fail to understand the reasoning. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.79.62.16 (talk) 13:07, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] I coud not agree on the figure on air pollution in Kathmandu
"The PM10 levels in Kathmandu have seen a three-fold increase in the last decade."
The report also mentioned that PM10 levels are 148 micrograms per cubic meter. If we take this as PM10 concentration for today, we should have last decade's figure as 50 micrograms per cubic meter. But previous data does not suggest this.
Actually, the monitoring methodology during a study in last decade and now is totally defferent. We can not compare the data like this.
Please make changes in the document. Anil 10:08, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Kathmandu Disambiguation reqd
Kathmandu is a very vague term. It can mean-
Hence, having a single article for all the three entities is confusing and misleading. All of these three terms are used in daily practices depending upon the group of people. So, I propose having Kathmandu as a disambiguation page with three entries named above. Thanks.--Eukesh 02:23, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
I don't know why but the song "Katmandu" by Bob Seger redirects here. Maybe it's about this city but regardless the song should have it's own page168.184.244.251 23:26, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] requ3st citation
request citation for the nickname kathmandu as "cat" ----03:18, 20 August 2007 (UTC)~User:Kushal_one
"CAT"
[edit] Abt the different pages for Kathmandu
Most of the people who are editing here do not know the difference between the different usage of the term Kathmandu. So, I think it is better to have Kathmandu as a disam. page rather than any of the four entities for which it is used. It was a terrible idea to redirect Kathmandu Metropolitan city to kathmandu as most of the people edit kathmandu without knowing that they are editing about the metropolitan city only. Please do not redirect the article again.--Eukesh (talk) 18:20, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Again (I already responded to the same note, copied to my talk page), please set up a request for moves. I had no choice but to preserve the redirect and original page, because cut and paste moves are problematic. Let's have a discussion about which name is more suitable. El_C 22:32, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Some of the other problems with your changes: all the inter-language links (to articles in other-language Wikipedias about the city) simply vanish; most of the categories, gone. And, for some unknown reason, you keep shortening the lead so that it doesn't mention this city is the capital of Nepal. Please, keep in mind that this is a collaborative edits. We have many other capital and other cities and we have certain conventions that thousands and thousands of editors use. We want your contributions and expertise, but we want them to be channeled collaboratively and with an eye toward consistency with other similar entries. Thanks. El_C 22:44, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- I did not request for move because the three articles are already there. Besides, most of the things mentioned in the article Kathmandu is misleading. There are 5 places with minicipality status and 3 historically recognized cities (the article mentions two cities in valley). Most of the tourists information eg-Thamel being the prime is false. It is mere calculation of Westerners. There are far more domestic and Indian tourists who visit Pashupatinath, Bouddha, Swayambhunath and the old cities more than Thamel. Thamel is just a westerner's hub. I keep removing the part that Kathmandu is capital of Nepal because I have not found a single evidence which suggests whether Kathmandu District, Kathmandu City or Kathmandu Valley is the capital. Not all ministeries and foreign embassies are located in Kathmandu City or District. Most of the central level offices are scattered throughout the valley. However, except for the valley police force and UNESCO heritage status, there is no other official recognition of valley besides its importance geographically. I think a better solution might be to expand the article Kathmandu a little and state that it is the capital of Nepal and then add a section about various uses of Kathmandu. Then, we can add the influences like the song of Bob Seger, Cat Stevens etc.(which can mean any of the three Kathmandus). What do you say?--Eukesh (talk) 15:27, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
- I say we follow the naming convention of other encyclopedias, like Britannica (Concise), Encarta, Columbia, etc. Thoughts? El_C 10:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
- I did not request for move because the three articles are already there. Besides, most of the things mentioned in the article Kathmandu is misleading. There are 5 places with minicipality status and 3 historically recognized cities (the article mentions two cities in valley). Most of the tourists information eg-Thamel being the prime is false. It is mere calculation of Westerners. There are far more domestic and Indian tourists who visit Pashupatinath, Bouddha, Swayambhunath and the old cities more than Thamel. Thamel is just a westerner's hub. I keep removing the part that Kathmandu is capital of Nepal because I have not found a single evidence which suggests whether Kathmandu District, Kathmandu City or Kathmandu Valley is the capital. Not all ministeries and foreign embassies are located in Kathmandu City or District. Most of the central level offices are scattered throughout the valley. However, except for the valley police force and UNESCO heritage status, there is no other official recognition of valley besides its importance geographically. I think a better solution might be to expand the article Kathmandu a little and state that it is the capital of Nepal and then add a section about various uses of Kathmandu. Then, we can add the influences like the song of Bob Seger, Cat Stevens etc.(which can mean any of the three Kathmandus). What do you say?--Eukesh (talk) 15:27, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Elevation
The opening section states an elevation of 2230 m. but the geography section states 1336 m. I believe the latter is more closer to the correct value. My Lonely Planet book on Nepal states 1337. Other sources I have seen indicate around the 1330 mark as well. When I was there several years ago, it didn't feel like 2200 metres. :) RedWolf (talk) 08:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- Well, if we can have 1337, let's do that! El_C 15:52, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sister City List
Can we get some citations for the sister cities listed on this page? I find it very suspect that Pyongyang would join in the sister city program. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.79.62.16 (talk) 13:10, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
