Talk:Katherine Ann Power

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	Katherine Ann Power has been listed as one of the Social sciences and society good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can delist it, or ask for a reassessment.
	An entry from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on April 14, 2007.
Article milestones Date Process Result May 22, 2007 Good article nominee Listed October 4, 2007 Good article reassessment Kept Current Status: Good article

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Contents 1 Factual discrepancy 2 POV Issue? 3 Fact check 4 Berrigan edit conflict 5 GA on hold 6 GA passed 7 To FA tasks 8 Philosophy Dept. at OSU 9 You might consider 10 GA Sweeps (kept)

[edit] Factual discrepancy

In working to eliminate unwieldy sentences and frequent repeating of words, I came across a factual discrepancy that needs to be addressed by the primary editor of this article. The text reads as follows:

Shortly after the robbery, Gilday, Valeri, and Bond were all captured.[1] Valeri turned state's evidence and testified against Gilday. Bond, however, died before his trial while making a bomb in jail in order to escape.[1] Valeri received 25 years for the robbery while Bond received a life sentence.

So which is it? Did he get a life sentence or did he died before trial? I would guess he got the life sentecne but died some time after that. If anyone knows or finds out, please fix. thanks LiPollis 12:19, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] POV Issue?

The lead sentence describes her as an ex-criminal. How can one be an ex-criminal? It's a mild POV issue, but would appear to be the result of someone trying to "soften" her image. Kemkerj 14:41, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure it's someone trying to soften her image, it might be more of a semantics issue. You can be an ex-convict, can you be an ex-criminal? I don't see why it can't be changed back. I assume if you've served your time you're still a criminal, but maybe the anon editor was trying to convey that she isn't actively committing crimes right now? Katr67 17:30, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fact check

Aboutmovies can you check your sources to see if they back up the birth certificate date fact I added? It's in the other sources if not, but I didn't want to add unnecessary clutter. Katr67 17:30, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Berrigan edit conflict

I was also going to remove the aside about Berrigan, with a summary to the effect that I don't think we need a clarification about Berrigan's stance on violence on this page and that I think it would go better on his page if needed there. Katr67 22:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Exactly. Aboutmovies 22:54, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA on hold

I have reviewed this article according to the GA criteria and have decided to put the article on hold until a few things are fixed.

1. In edit mode, the citation templates are really spaced out which could make it difficult for editors to modify the article. Remove the spacing between the parameters so it condenses down and doesn't take up so much space. This isn't a GA requirement, but would make it easier for other editors.
2. Remove some of the redlinks to words and names you think will probably not have articles down the line. I don't think that the police officer that was killed will ever have an article, unless you plan to create it soon. Go through the article and delink accordingly.
3. "Power remained at large, her trail eventually growing cold." Reword this sentence, it doesn't sound very encyclopedic.
4. In the "Fugitive" section, add a wikilink for FBI, it was last mentioned in the intro, and some readers may skip the intro. Also, there is no mention of her being on a top ten FBI fugitive list except for in the intro, add information about it here as well.
5. "During her time on the run, Power was also diagnosed and treated for clinical depression, but this was unrelated to the crime and time spent eluding authorities as it was a condition she suffered from even as a child." Reword this sentence, it sounds long and drawn-out.
6. "The therapist that diagnosed the depression, and whom Power confided her secret with, was Linda Carroll." What secret? This wasn't mentioned before this sentence.
7. "In court Power made the following statement:" The quote talks about his death, expand upon this lead by saying which death. Such as "In court Power made the following statement about her reaction to the police officer/Bond's death (whichever one it is)".
8. In the "Cultural references to Katherine Ann Power" section, convert the list into prose.

The article is informative and has adequate sources. It would be great if you could get another image if possible, but it is not necessary for the article to be passed as a GA. I will leave the article on hold for seven days until the above items are fixed. Let me know on my talk page if you have any questions or when you are done and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Nehrams2020 06:55, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA passed

I have passed this article according to the GA criteria. Excellent work on fixing all of these so quickly. In the "Cultural references" section, wikilink the first occurrence of "Law & Order" and in the next sentence, Episode doesn't need to be capitalized. The show should also have italics around both occurrences. Besides this, the article looks good, but continue to improve it by adding any new information that is properly sourced. If you have the time please consider reviewing an article or two at GAC to help with the backlog. --Nehrams2020 05:28, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] To FA tasks

• Create articles for the red linked items, use some of the info to expand upon the article where they are referenced, especially the high school.
• Create an article for the robbery, check with Wikipedia:WikiProject Boston to see if maybe they want to do that as they may know of a good title for the article.
• Create template to be placed as a graphic like object inline with text that has the robbers, victim, and sentence plus maybe DOB.
• Try to add pictures of other robbers to break up the text (reduce size of FBI logo).
• See about expanding FBI most wanted info such as first woman, longest time ever, etc. if there is something there. Plus I think there was something where the FBI had her as a suspect for another anti-war related crime.
• Expand cultural references, especially see if anything maybe made in the 70s and 80s before her surrender.
• Expand info on the depression into a full paragraph to add context and depth.

Then maybe see about where she is today and address any GA comments. Aboutmovies 19:04, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Philosophy Dept. at OSU

I came across a minor factual error and removed the sentence. It had been stated that "As of Nov. 6th, 2001, Katherine Ann Power was a faculty member in the Philosphy Department at Oregon State University" and it referenced the following article (http://oregonstate.edu/dept/ncs/newsarch/2001/Sep01/ideas.htm). However, upon review, the article does not state she was a faculty member. It might have infered from other sources that identified her as "surviving freshman composition teaching", however, both situations can easily be explained by the prevalence of graduate students teaching courses and giving lectures, especially in light of one of these same source documents suggesting her plans to leave the university soon "and gearing up for a new life in the Northeast next year." (http://oregonstate.edu/cla/philosophy/about/report_highlights/0001.php). Minor, but worth discussing. Ackermal 20:47, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I changed the wording of the sentence that had been removed regarding Power having been a faculty member because I don't think it can be inferred that she was a faculty member from the cited source and I have been unable to find any other sources for the information. She did teach freshman comp so I updated the article to reflect that. Latr, Katr 20:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

How does it look now? Latr, Katr 21:00, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You might consider

Walter Schroeder left behind a wife and nine children. And three years after he was killed, his brother John, also a Boston policeman, was shot and killed as well. These facts may not be necessary to this page, but the Schroeder family is the reason you're writing a Katherine Power article - and of course, the Schroeders don't deserve a page of their own. MarkinBoston 15:34, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Walter does need an article, and there you could work in the family details. And no, the Schroeder family is not the only reason for this article. Power and the rest would warrant articles as notable even if Schroeder had not been shot and killed due to the armory robbery and armed bank robbery as protests to the war. Aboutmovies 18:27, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA Sweeps (kept)

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards, Ruslik 13:59, 4 October 2007 (UTC)