Talk:Katharine, Duchess of Kent
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It is incorrect to refer to the eldest son of The Duke of Kent as The Earl of St. Andrews. The correct form of address for this courtesy title is the Earl of St. Andrews.
- it is however correct to begin a sentence with a capitalised word. Astrotrain 14:51, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
-- but a colon does not end a sentence...
- yes, but usually, on a new line, you would begin with a capital. Astrotrain 20:16, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
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- We all by now understand that George Windsor, is not THE Earl of St. Andrews, that title still belongs to his father. But the sentence does look weird with a lower case the, especially as his sister is listed as The Lady Helen and his brother is The Lord Nicholas. Prsgoddess187 20:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Proposed move for this article and for other articles on Wives of Royal Peers see Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (names and titles). Mac Domhnaill
- I have reverted from the previous version which talks about newspaper reports that the Duke and Duchess of Kent are to divorce. I could not find any authoritive source on these rumours. I would not say the Sun or Daily Mirror are appropiate sources for an encyclopedia. If it becomes official, then it can be reinstated. Astrotrain 22:18, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC)
The Duchess of Kent is best known for her conversion to Roman Catholicism, the first senior royal to do so since the passing of the Act of Settlement 1701.
- To what extent is this really true? Ena of Battenberg converted to Catholicism, and she was the niece of Edward VII...Given that the term "senior royal" has no real meaning, I'm not sure this statement should be in there. john k 07:42, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
- The first person with the style and title of HRH then? I don't think Ena would be classed as a British royal? Astrotrain 20:53, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
All the talk of "relinquishing" the style Her Royal Highness isn't right. Styles are determined wholly by the Queen — one can't just decide one doesn't have a particular style any more. In the Duchess's case, nothing official has happened, and so she continues to have that style, regardless of whether she uses or wants it. The articles equates her with Princess Patricia of Connaught, but official documents were actually issued effecting Patricia's relinquishment, so the situations aren't at all the same. Also, saying that she expresses a preference for being formally styled "Katharine, Duchess of Kent" implies that she has a choice in the matter. Perhaps we can say she has said she would prefer to be styled that, but, as with HRH, she is "The Duchess of Kent" unless something official says otherwise. Proteus (Talk) 22:01, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
The article should be changed to reflect the fact that The Duchess of Kent remains a Royal Highness. There isn't even any citation to reflect that she actually made the choice to not use the style. Additionally, she can't style herself as anything. Royal titles are directly the perview of the Queen and the The Queen still uses HRH The Duchess of Kent. Until an offical statement is made by The Queen that HRH The Duchess of Kent has lost ths style of Royal Highness then she sould continue to be addressed by it. She cannot style herself as Katherine, Duchess of Kent until she and The Duke actually divorce until then she has no choice in the matter.
Queen Brandissima
I changed the reference to "Princess Diana" to read Diana, Princess of Wales. Diana was never ever Princess Diana. I also changed the "relinquish" part to chose not to use. She cannot relinquish the style even if she wanted to.
Queen Brandissima