User talk:Kartcrazy
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Hello Kartcrazy,
Welcome to Wikipedia. I see you have created Carver barracks. Could you please provide more information so that other people can expand this article? For example, can you find any other related items and link to them, such as the article on the air base, if we have one? And please be specific. Not evryone knows what the RAF is, for example. You should probably replace it with Royal Air Force. In general, we don't like to have dead end pages that don't link to anything else. Thanks, and once again, welcome! Johntex\talk 17:53, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Hello, I've made a couple of changes to your page, including moving it to Carver Barracks. Your old link (above) still works because a redirect was created too. Hope you don't mind. Budgiekiller 13:37, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Heinz Oberlinger
Greetings. What is your source on Heinz Oberlinger? Google only finds hits on Wikipedia and sites scraped from it. He's not mentioned in any of my histories of the Teutoberger Wald era. Thanks! Antandrus (talk) 17:38, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, the information was passed to me by my friend who is a semi-retired historian. He would have made the entry for wikipedia himself but he isnt really the computer type of person. I added a basic version of everything he had found out about Heinz Oberlinger to wikipedia. Hopefully I can find the time to add some more detailed information soon.
My friend and other historians have found the information by piecing together old pieces of scripture he found on a dig near the battle site. His main find was a box, in which were letters to and from Heinz Oberlinger, well preserved considering how long ago it was, certainly able to be read from. On translation is gave a rough describtion of him, tall, strong etc. The letters mention several times his agreement with Arminius, although unfortunatly, from the letter he couldnt establish the exact time when the agreement was formed. It detailed his plans for the battle and a few tactics he might employ. Whether he carried those particular tactics out or not, will hopefully become apparent soon as more evidence is still being dicovered, however these things if researched properly do take time. His name, which admittedly I haven't seen written down yet, was also included in the letters. I made an anglicised version of his name spelt phonetically. That was probably an error on my part, maybe im not cut out to be a historian.
I would assume you are writing this as you cannot find any references to it in any historical books. My friend is currently writing his own book on the entire subject but heinz oberlinger was his most major find, as I believe no one has ever discovered any mention of him before! Certainly he is never mentioned in any of the books i've read. It's got us quite excited I can tell you, we won't stop talkoing about anything else lol! Of course if you find any refences to him can you please let me know asap as both of us are quite keen on finding out what really happened and whatever refences, no matter how small, may well fill in a gap in the puzzle.
I put the information on wikipedia as I felt that, as the book isnt really progressing that fast, I should make a heavily abriged version to let people know the basic facts now rather than waiting for the whole book to be published. And also, to be honest, I think more people would read it if it was on wikipedia I was thinking that I could slowly add more information to the page as we got it, maybe a section about the evidence we've found and a section on what we think might have happened and perhaps a section on what we know for certain.
Out of interest is it within the rules to put a link to how to buy the book when it is eventually published on the heinz oberlinger page?
Sorry i've seemed to have gone on for ages, glad to see you're interested in my friends findings.
- Thank you for the information. Unfortunately, we cannot use anything on Wikipedia which is in violation of our policies regarding no original research, verifiability, and reliable sources. Even if your friend really did dig something up, it couldn't be written about on Wikipedia until first published in a reliable, peer-reviewed source. We take a rather dim view of hoaxes here, I'm afraid. Thank you for your understanding, Antandrus (talk) 02:19, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Look, the research is currently being carried out, he is currently documenting the evidence. I wrote the jist of what I understood from my friends phone message. I now understand that is not in the rules as it is original research and isn't in writing yet. I origianally wrote it as an unlinked page as the information was still due to be verified and I could add to it at my own pace but I was asked to put a link in which i did. By doing this it released the information too early, obviously a mistake. However I do not appriciate being called a hoax! I do not just make things up to delibratly mislead people! I also do not appriciate being laughed at before you even know half of what you need to pass judgement! I know my friend has put a lot of work into this and to judge it before you even know the facts is unforgivable. I merely gave the information he has gathered so far. There are many explanations for the evidence being found, some are crazy and some more sensible, if what you are saying is true then perhaps our early theory is wrong or perhaps i mis-understood (more likely.) Possibly there was another battle near there and the two men were drawing paralels between the two battles. I dont't know, Im not a historian, my friend is! When he knows for sure I'll tell you. Translating old languages is very hard indeed! He's sending it to a proper expert soon.
I will definitely inform you when my friends book is going to be published! Kartcrazy (talk)
