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[edit] Caves

Can someone please tell me what is a "12th century caves" in Basava Kalyana. Do these caves have 12th century paintings/sculptures??. Generally caves systems dont have time designations attached because most are millions of years old.

Dinesh Kannambadi

[edit] Karnataka Flag

Indian states, with exception to Jammu and Kashmir, do not have state flags. The Karnataka flag is unofficial. Thus, its image should be removed. -amitroy5 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Amitroy5 (talk • contribs) 19:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

Although the flag is unofficial, it is widely used in Karnataka for all practical purposes. Flag of Karnataka is even being hoisted on the occasion of Kannada Rajyotsava. Hence reference to the flag is necessary. So I'm reinserting the image clearly indicating the flag is unofficial. Gnanapiti 19:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

OK. I agree with your point. Earlier, there was no label of its unofficial status. -amitroy5

[edit] Karnataka Literature

I am trying to put together a page (hyper linked as Karnataka Literature listing some great Kannada /Sanskrit scholars/poets who were patronized by various Kannada Kingdoms. On this page I have mentioned the reference source also. However, for several scholars, the names of their most important works are not mentioned. In some other cases, I have mentioned their names but am not sure if the work is in Kannada or Sanskrit or Prakrit. If anyone out there can provide this information and add to this page, I think it will be more complete work. If anyone can think of any other literatures I have not mentioned, please feel free to add to the list. Please remember that because of the nature of Indian kingdoms, poets and scholars were often patronized by multiple kingdoms and sometimes by overlords and feduciaries at the same time. Please be sure to add soruces and references.Lets bring out the glory that is Karnataka Literature!!

Dinesh Kannambadi

[edit] Pictures

Nice pictures. Can you please add a few more like one picture each from Badami Chalukya (Pattadakal), Rashtrakuta (Ellora), Kalyani Chalukya (Itigi or Kuruvatti or Lakkundi). Many of these pictures can be found in www.indoarch.org and has copy right protection. I have not done this before or I would have done it myself.

Dinesh Kannambadi

We had a long list of the districts of Karnataka in this article; we already have a separate article on the districts of Karnataka, so I have removed the list from this article and have added a link to that article (Districts of Karnataka). --ashwatha 05:36, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] GDSP Figures added

I have added GDSP figures per capa/per year for Karnataka. The figure is in INR converted at current rates to USD.

[edit] Copyright

I just noted that [1] added copyrighted material from [2]. Thue | talk 21:15, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I note there is a seperate article on Devadasis which mentions Karnatika so the information can go there. My source was the Operation World (website) but I note the BBC and Newsweek also have articles, though the extent of the problem is a matter of some dispute it seems. Admittedly the economy wasn`t the ideal place but money seems to be changing hands so... I am sorry to add something negative but I felt the issue merited wider awareness..Andycjp 9th June 2005

Thank you for your prompt action, This page could do with a lot of attention, but to achieve a FA status (some day), It will require references and good sectioning.--IMpbt 16:08, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Four southern states?

The article on South India says there are five States: Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Andra Prahesh and Goa; but this article says there are only four? I don't feel that I know enough about India or Wikipedia to change it myself. Should this be changed to five? Harry

And obviously Karnataka --BostonMA 13:37, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Although it is widely used both in India and elsewhere, the divisions of north and south india are not altogether clear. Many Indians claim that the reason for the two different regions is purely linguistic, meaning that North Indians speak Indo-European languages and South Indians speak Dravidian Languages. Going by this definition, Goa is in North India because its primary spoken language, Konkani, is Indo-European, and also both of the official languages, Marathi and English, are also Indo-European. Other people say that it is a geographic term while still others argue that it is a political region. Some others contend that it is a fusion of the three. If it were possible, I would like to stop that term from being used at all because it does not make sense and its meaning is constantly being disputed. However, since our job here at Wikipedia is to define terms, I believe that we should not include Goa as one of the states, meaning that we should edit South India. My basis for this argument is the fact that the majority of people use the term "South India" to refer to a cultural or linguistic region and since Goa is very distant both linguistically and culturally to other parts of Southern India, it should not be included as a part of it. AmbExThErMaL 22:41, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A Picture speaks a thousand words

Can someone put a bunch of nice pictures in this page, like Jog Falls, a photo from Pattadakal or Hampi or Belur/Halebidu.

Dinesh Kannambadi

[edit] Languages

According to [3]

The langauge distribution of Karnataka is as follows:

The State of Karnataka has a population of 4,49,77,201 persons, according to the 1991 Census of India. The regional language of the State is Kannada whose speakers constitute 64.75 per cent of the population.
The major linguistic minority groups in the State comprise the speakers of Urdu (9.72%), Telugu (8.34%), Marathi (3.95%), Tamil (3.82%), Malayalam (1.69%), Tulu (3.38%), Konkani (1.78%), and Hindi (1.87%).

I'm not sure but a considerable proportion speak Kodava (or Coorgi) language.Can somebody reseach and put it up. Manjukirans 09:55, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jog Falls highest in Asia?

According to [4] Dudhsagar has a height of 600 meters, while Gersoppa (Jog) has a height of only 253. It is common lore in Karnataka that Jog is the highest in India, I've seen that written, though I can't recall the source. However, I'm not sure that it is true. Perhaps it depends upon exactly what is meant, i.e. perhaps Jog has the longest single drop, (Dudhsagar is a cascade). Without more definite knowledge, I think it is safer to say that Jog is one of the highest falls in Asia. --BostonMA 14:25, 19 February 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Article Getting Better

If we keep up the good work on this article, soon it can be upgraded to featured status. AmbExThErMaL 20:35, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where this article is heading...

My next long term project will be to consolidate this article to a point where a peer review actually makes sense. Of course, I think we are lucky to have some great editors concurrently working on this article, and so I request their participation in whipping this article back into shape! I have restructured the lead (I realize that it is by no means perfect..consider it to be a work-in-progress). I have also consolidated the History section per Wikipedia:Summary Style. A good portion (if not all) of the old history version had been copied and pasted from OurKarnataka. I will continue to work on Geography and Demographics, and hopefully, we will be in a good position to push Karnataka for a constructive peer review in a couple of months.AreJay 03:36, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] minerals and industry

I have added useful info to agriculture and tourism sections. Can someone add useful info on minerals and Industry. Just claiming that Karnataka has 5% of multinationals is not good enough. Also a few more good pictures on agriculture, industry etc can make this page more attractive.

Dinesh Kannambadi

[edit] Wildlife in KarnatakaDineshkannambadi 14:52, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Over the years I have enjoyed following the scent of the wild in Karnataka. I have put together a gallery of pictures (a very small selection from of all the photos I have) for Rangantittu Bird Sanctuary, Bhadra Wildlife Sanctuary, Bandipur National Park. I am in the process of adding photos to Nagarahole and Biligirirangan Hills WLS also. It takes some time to dig up the right ones from my albums, scan them into format and upload into wikipedia. Enjoy the photos!!. If anyone has photos from WLS from north Karnataka, please take time to create hyperlinks to those Sanctuaries and add pictures. A picture says a thousand words, and I believe even millions of words can't justify and convey the beauty of Karnataka.

Dinesh Kannambadi

[edit] Tiger!!

Finally, after nine years of photography, seven wildlife sanctuaries in two states (Karnataka and A.P., some with multiple visits) and after four seperate sightings of the migthy beast, I had the opportunity to get a long enough view to take a clear photograph. Enjoy!!. Karnataka stands 3rd in the country for Tiger population per 2000 census with the numbers quoted at greater than 400 (argueable with recent concerns of poaching through out the country).

Dinesh Kannambadi

[edit] Some Ideas

Can somebody add info or copyedit already existing info about the following.

Infrastructure

  • Power
  • Roads, bridges, tunnels
  • Railways
  • Ports
  • Communication
  • Healthcare infrastructure
  • Education

Economy

  • SEZs
  • Industry
  • Heavy industries
    Mining
    Textile
    Manufacturing
  • Technology/Software/Hardware industries
  • VAT

Also lot of the information about nature/historical places can be 're-packaged' under

Tourism

  • Nature tourism
  • Places of historical interest
  • Medical tourism(?? - this coul be under healthcare also)

etc.

More ideas and suggestions are welcome. Sarvagnya 22:18, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More Ideas

Can some one also add to the section on Music and copy edit at least some info on Purandaradasa and Kanakadasa with some pictures. Same for Hindusthani music, may be Gangubai Hanagal, Bhimsen Joshi. Some info on modern literaters like Kuvempu would also look good.

Dinesh Kannambadi

[edit] Vijayanagar architecture

I have created a page for Vijayanagar Architecture using source infomation from respected authors and photos taken by myself in 2004, focussing on the niche aspects of their style. While the pages on Vijayanagar and Hampi give plenty of scope to view Vijayanagar temples, the page Vijayanagar Architecture tries to focus on interesting details of why, where and how they choose certian styles. Please try to contribute positively to this page. All my info was obtained from the reference sources I have given in the reference section of the same page. Enjoy. I am going to include this page in "see also" section for Karnataka page. Dineshkannambadi 18:46, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Fantastic job! Sarvagnya 19:05, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Karnataka Politics

I have just created page on karnata politics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karnataka_Politics . Please help me to improve it.

[edit] Badami Chalukya Architecture

I have created a basic template with some photos I got from a friend. I will later elaborate more on this page from a source that is exclusively on the architecture of Badami Chalukyas and after my visit to Aihole-Badami-Pattadakal in Karnataka when I plan to take more pictures of temples, inscriptions, sculptures and coins etc. For now I have also added photos to Badami, Badami Cave Temples and main Chalukya page. Please feel free to add more photos to these pages provided they can improve the infomation on these pages. I have also made an "see also" include to this page in the main Karnataka page. The long term goal is to consolidate all styles of architecture from Badami Chalukya-Mysore Kingdom, spanning an era of some 1300 years. Enjoy!!

Dineshkannambadi

[edit] Cleaning up this article

I am trying to clean up this article. If you dont like the changes I am making please talk to me before reverting. Leotolstoy 00:02, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I have added many new sections and deleted some. I am planning to create a new article on tourism and make this section very short. Help by adding information to some of these new sections. Leotolstoy 00:30, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I've been cleaning up this article since yesterday. I've cpedited tourism, transport, economy and geography sections. As a result the article has reduced from a humongous 56 kb to a more reasonable 44 kb. I will be cpediting History section soon. Right now, I am only summarising to conform to WP:SS. Once this is done, we will have to get down to cleaning up for tone, POV etc.,. After that is done, hopefully we can pass it through peer review and see how it goes. Sarvagnya 20:05, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I just did some deletions. But there is a huge possibility that many people might take it personal and might revert back. Leotolstoy 22:03, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
No. I dont think so. All the stuff that was removed from here is sitting safe in its own dedicated article. So if somebody feels that there is something there that ought to be here also, we can always try to factor those in when we tighten the prose. Sarvagnya 22:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Air transportation

I dont know how anybody can make statements such as "Karnataka is well connected to the rest of India and the international world.". I think Karnataka's air transport system is poor compared to international scenario. Only a few international flights start from the state. Can somebody come-up with a objective opinion on this (I tried and I think people did not liked it). Leotolstoy 12:18, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Karnataka userbox

Hello all,

Here is a Karnataka userbox I have created. Wiki Raja 11:24, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

This user is from Karnataka.