Talk:Karelia

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See also Talk:Karelia (historical province) and Talk:Republic of Karelia for closely related issues.

The Winter War was forgotten in the article so I added it:

"In 1939 the Soviet Union attacked Finland (see: Winter War). In Peace of Moscow most of Karelia had to be handed over to the Soviet Union. About 400 000 people fled and had to be relocated."

I also pointed out that the standard-of-living gap between present Karelia and Finland is exeptionally big, apparently the biggest in the world. A world record should be mentioned, in my opinion.

An overwhelming majority of the Finns don't want Karelia back - the ones that did, the Karelians - are pretty much dead by now. I had to mention this because the article seems to imply otherwise.


This article now holds a standard that is comparable with many other Wikipedia articles. The Page history shows that there have been little editing here. Maybe it's time to put this page in place and move the other article to Karelia (province) or something?

/M.L.

New disambiguation solution is good, because term Karelia has never had clear meaning (East Karelia, Western Karelia = Finnish Karelia, Republic of Karelia, Russian Karelia, debat of returning Karelia (=borders of Treaty of Tartu), North Karelia, South Karelia, ...)

[edit] Map of traditional areas

Still there is not borders of 1939 near Salla and Kuusamo in this map. Why show this border in Karelian Isthmus and not in Salla and Kuusamo? Kahkonen 06:21, 2004 May 27 (UTC)

I guess I should answer this. So, do you think Salla and Kuusamo are part of Karelia? or only the parts that ended up in the Republic of Karelia? From a Finnish POV Salla and Kuusamo are not part of Karelia, but Lapland and Oulu/Ostrobothnia respectively. -- Jniemenmaa 07:24, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
They are not, by Finnish POV, but there were a border in 1939 and 1944, so why not to draw this border? Kahkonen 05:26, 2004 May 29 (UTC)
Also areas towards Kantalahti are considered belonging to White Karelia, as you can see in this page http://www.juminkeko.fi/viena/en/index.html (about Viena folklore villages). Kahkonen 06:15, 2004 May 29 (UTC)
And there had not traditionally been border between Ladoga Karelia and Northern Karelia (I think they are same), at least not following Moscow -40 border. Kahkonen 12:29, 2004 Jul 10 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:15, 2 January 2008 (UTC)