Talk:Karel Kryl
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I do not understand why were the English translation of album titles removed. I suggest to put them back. In the section about live concert in Switzerland, I would replace in the the three exclamation marks with comma. JanSuchy 17:49, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
For Jan Suchý: Názvy desek se nepřekládají - posouvá to význam
For Dominik92: Tu pravdivou poznámku o pirátsky šířenejch nahrávkách tam laskavě nech!!! A co ti vadí na tom, že ve videografii jsou uvedená rozličná televizní vystoupení a rozhovory, už nechápu vůbec. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.192.2.142 (talk) 20:46, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
- We are on the English Wikipedia so I will respond in English: Your version is very out of place in the discography as every single successful musician has suffered from illegal downloads it has nothing to do with discography if you really want to include pirating, include it in the article, do you really think it's good to have a subheading called "and..."?--Dominik92 (talk) 03:12, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Clean-up
Why does this article need a clean-up, exactly? Sources maybe, but I don't see a need for clean-up. +Hexagon1 (t) 11:58, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- I added the tag because some user made this article and used terrible grammar, spelling formatting and non-encyclopedic material, for example there was a subheading called "and", I think it's a bit better now, but the article is still mostly an unsourced discography.--The Dominator (talk) 15:16, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Life
I did a copyedit, trying to tone down the hero-worship a little. One line in particular gave me trouble: "During the enthusiastic November days of 1989, Kryl returned to Czechoslovakia, only to experience bitter disappointment with the transformation of society." I commented out the second part, but something of the kind is needed. What was it about the new society that was so bitter a disappointment to him, exactly? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Milkbreath (talk • contribs) 18:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe adding something like, "was reportedly disappointed" then either a reference or a "citation needed". And if you guys doubt whether it needed cleanup, check out how it looked like before I tagged it: [1]--The Dominator (talk) 23:07, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Discography
How about we delete the whole mess and start over?--The Dominator (talk) 01:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know, but I think this article isn't insalvageable enough to warrant deletion, it just lacks a few sources, this is nowhere near as bad as some articles on Wikipedia. Though I'd stay neutral in a vote. Hurray for indecisiveness! +Hexagon1 (t) 10:31, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- I meant just delete the Discography and Videography section because I don't think it's verifiable. If you look at the page history it is very obviously original research.--The Dominator (talk) 15:59, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- I know you've already done so but I think there's a policy somewhere against deletion over sourcing, are you sure this article couldn't be sourced? I lack a familiarity with the Czech internet (bloody conjugating verbs and declining nouns, they make googling a nightmare) but I am sure we could find a source somewhere, and there is value in the content, I guess. I wouldn't fight tooth and nail for this though, I just think it's not that much of a mess. +Hexagon1 (t) 15:20, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
- If you look through the page history it is obvious that somebody just added OR. For example when they started the discography section, it said something along the lines of: "Coming Soon", then the section slowly expanded, suggesting that they indeed did not actually read this of a website or book, it was pure original research. The list was obviously incomplete and contained references to very minor, not notable recordings. I have absolutely nothing against a discography section and I think it would add to the article, but I think we should start over, and if we can't find a source for a complete discography, then I recommend actually writing a paragraph about some of his most important albums, like the fact that he only released one album in Czechoslovakia. A paragraph would probably be more insightful than an unsourced, incomplete and strangely formatted list.--The Dominator (talk) 15:28, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
- I know you've already done so but I think there's a policy somewhere against deletion over sourcing, are you sure this article couldn't be sourced? I lack a familiarity with the Czech internet (bloody conjugating verbs and declining nouns, they make googling a nightmare) but I am sure we could find a source somewhere, and there is value in the content, I guess. I wouldn't fight tooth and nail for this though, I just think it's not that much of a mess. +Hexagon1 (t) 15:20, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
