Talk:Karekin Pastermadjian

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[edit] Ottoman Reference's additions

Ottomanreference, I will soon remove most of what you added recently, because this article is about Karekin Pastermadjian and not Drastamat Kanayan. It isn't about the ARF in general either. Everything that does not include Pastermadjian is pretty much irrelevant. And besides, much of what you have added is controversial and is being discussed on the ARF talkpage (which I am closely following) between certain users. You know about this certainly... -- Davo88 22:40, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Which sentences are in question; instead of general statements please point your position. And why do you need to bring Drastamat Kanayan into this? As far as history tells they were good friends and they risked their life for the same goals. It is normal they involve at the same events. Thanks..--OttomanReference 22:44, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

If you have sources which I have not access please, give full references so that we can improve this article. Thanks again. --OttomanReference 22:45, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Take a look now. -- Davo88 12:37, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I do not see any additions, just deletions. What do you want me to see? I do not see anything that is not written by me. When omissions become an improvement? Any people who come to this page would like too see some background about these issues. Any sentence that does not have the world Pastermadjian was deleted by you. If you don't mind, I would like to read your position (explanation) about this edit. From outside, right at this moment, these are selective deletions with no explanation. You can not improve an article by deletion. Generally texts are improved by addition. I advise you to add text. Thanks. --OttomanReference 13:17, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

OttRef, Davo88's point in removing all that text is because much of it is irrelevent to Pastermadjian. It is excessive and redundant information as it is long material nothing to do personally with Pastermadjian. Any valid addition on Pastermaidjian's life and role would be good. And besides, you know that all those additions you did which Davo88 removed are being discussed by our part on the ARF talk and RfC... - Fedayee 16:25, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I think you did not reach a correct conclusion as he removed this paragraph: "The second term of parliament was just after the Balkan Wars. Balkan Wars ended with the lost of most of the Christian subjects and Ottoman Empire became an entity with two major constituents; namely Turks and Arabs. Interestingly, in this new consolidated structure issues affecting the Armenians dominated mainstream politics which Armen Garo was a deputy from Erzurum." This is a contextual sentence which tells the major events of the time and his position as a deputy. When someone without replacing information deletes chunks of text, their edits are questionable. Thanks --OttomanReference 16:34, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I see your point for the Balkans but it does not need to be that long as it strays off topic...we can simply cut it to: After the end of the Balkan Wars, issues affecting the Armenians dominated mainstream politics during which Armen Garo was a deputy from Erzurum. - Fedayee 17:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Oops! While editing I had forgotten for a moment that his other name was Armen Karo. -- Davo88 04:32, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Thus, I agree with Fedayee's version, which is pretty clear. -- Davo88 04:34, 2 May 2007 (UTC)