User talk:Kappa

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" I'm right, and he is wrong. There is nothing to discuss."[1] Agüeybaná (talk • contribs • logs)

This is the talk page of User:Kappa. Hi.

Previous discussions: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6

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[edit] Greeting

thanks for the additional info on PUTO, highly appreciate that. Ronelio 20:00, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deprodding

While it's certainly not required, when deprodding an article it's generally considered polite to explain your objections to deletion on the article's talk page. This may also help to prevent unnecessary AfD requests by laying out the arguments against deletion before it's sent there. Thanks! Seraphimblade 03:19, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Well quite often the prod tag just says "nn-X" or whatever, and I simply disagree with that assessment as grounds for deletion. If some kind of evidence-based discussion is provided I am more likely to respond in kind - and often (well occasionally anyway LOL) I can be persuaded that deletion is necessary. Kappa 03:46, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
As noted, it's considered good form to note your objection to the prod rather than just removing it, as you did at Holla at Me. And in the case of the Les Miz songs if you remove them with the notion that they should be merged somewhere, you have IMHO taken it upon yourself to do the merge work involved. Otto4711 11:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Afghan companies list

The reason why I suggested it be deleted is that it *is* confusing. The list on this page is only partial. People come to this page thinking they've found **the** list - but in fact they've missed about half the companies. Check out Category:Companies of Afghanistan to see what I mean. If we keep it who will maintain it? Categories are at least self maintaining. Egfrank 14:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Well OK I've just been through the category system to find all the Afghan companies I could, and it was a very unpleasant experience. I think it's worth keeping the list in order to spare at least some users the same amount of wasted time. Kappa 14:47, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
I just saw the warnings and links you put at the top. I think that is a great compromise. Thanks. And thanks for the example of how to link to a category. I wasn't sure how to do that. Egfrank 20:16, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Also what made it unpleasant? I'd like to think about ways to make the category system more usable -- Egfrank 20:16, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Broom (clean)

Hi. Before you deprod things like Broom (clean) please do some research and please assume that the prod tag was put up by someone that did his. You are wasting everyone's time by sending this to AfD. If you truly had evidence that this was worthy of an article then please at least go defend it on AfD. If you have no argument then please do not deprod. When you deprod things at the rate of 2 a minute as you did yesterday for instance you are clearly not doing research and your negligence is an imposition on the other editors who are spending time to clean up Wikipedia. Pascal.Tesson 21:12, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

  • The prod tag said "Not notable" which implies the prodder felt no research was necessary. If the article is supposed to be unverifiable or an exaggeration, that should be confirmed by AFD. Kappa 23:01, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfDs on songs

I've noticed your name turning up on a couple of song AfDs recently, talking about deletion as a "betrayal of fans" and things like that. The songs are never nominated for deletion to "betray fans" or anything like that. It's always a case of whether or not a given song is in fact notable. I'll be the first to admit that there are some album tracks by some of my favourite artists which I'd love to see an article on here, but just because a song is a real fan favourite doesn't necessarily mean it's notable in a wider sense. BigHaz - Schreit mich an (Review me) 07:27, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Betrayal is the result if its deleted. Someone who listens to a song and wants to know what it's about or how it was inspired doesn't care if its "notable" or not. Kappa 15:58, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
    • True enough, but why then are we honour bound to have an article on each and every song by each and every singer or band? At least 50% of the articles in the AfD this all referred to were just written along the lines of "X is a song by Y on album Z. It was written by Joe Bloggs". This doesn't tell me anything I can't gain from the liner notes of the average album. Sure, there's no limit to the number of articles we can have in this encyclopedia, but why do we have things like WP:MUSIC/SONG if every song in the world is allowed in so that fans can find out about it? My apologies for a delayed response, by the way, your Talk page had somehow fallen off my watchlist. BigHaz - Schreit mich an (Review me) 00:39, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
      • You aren't honour bound to have a seperate article for every recorded song by a notable band but as far as I am concerned you are honour bound to attempt to explain and discuss it somewhere. If someone has written a description of the song and you delete it (rather than merging) just because you don't think it belongs on a separate page, you are betraying your audience who may not have access to the liner notes or the song itself. (Regarding your watchlist, I think there might be something wrong with my archiving technique.) Kappa 05:13, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yenta Claus

I am trying to figure out what is wrong and was wondering if labeling the AfD as biographical by an editor was the right place for a holiday folk hero?--Cuddles 03:33, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Well "what is wrong" seems to be that there isn't enough verifiable evidence out there to prove that it's an established, or even an emerging, cultural phenomenon. I know not everything is on google, but unfortunately wikipedia has to demand evidence (although it's inconsistent, I know). I know you worked hard to provide it and it's a pity if the article still gets deleted. My feeling is that this is a real but currently unverifiable thing, hopefully more evidence will appear with time. If you could find it in a couple more books, that would probably be enough, or it might get more net coverage during the holiday season.
  • Thank you for your interest in Yenta Claus, but alas she must be a myth, an urban legend have you, and besides, she was simply too good to be true. Maybe? Thanks for the tip, but I believe Hanukkah Harry is about to get the Wiki Axe. Too sad. BTW, Is there really a Yenta Claus or not? Merry what ever you celebrate and just a friendly hello. Have a bright life, Yenta Claus  :-) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.41.86.146 (talk • contribs) .
  • There are other places that will accept your article, perhaps wikinfo or other alternatives to wp. I'm sorry you have had such an unpleasant experience here. Also it's clearly not a biography so I've recategorized it to "society" where it fits a little better. Kappa 04:14, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
  • P.S. Even if it's deleted, with the current evidence you might be able to mention Yenta in another article like Hanukkah Harry. Kappa 04:15, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] De-Prodding etc

Hi, just a quick request to be more specific with your reasons for de-prodding in various music related articles. Particularly, it's a bit confusing to see WP:MUSIC as a reason to de-PROD when an article clearly makes no attempt to assert that it meets the requirements. Thanks... (No more bongos 12:42, 19 September 2006 (UTC))

  • Do you want to be more specific here? Kappa 15:14, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
  • If you are talking about Lotta Engbergs... Kappa 15:16, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Partly that one; partly a couple of others I noticed on some page histories, and partly some stuff in AFDs a while back... I'm not criticising you or saying your deprodding/voting is necessarily wrong, but it might be helpful to explain your reasoning in certain situations. No more bongos 19:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Agreed, what was your reason for deproding Luminary (album), and for removing the linkless template, as the article is linked to by only one non-user space article? Do you have any evidence that the album is notable? Swpb 01:03, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
    • It's an album by Adeyto who seems notable so I deprodded it. One link seems sufficient for an album, but put the template back if you like. Kappa 01:09, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] B. H. Carroll Theological Institute

Just wanted to let you know I put the notability tag back in because the AfD survived only because of no consensus. Perhaps if notability is asserted it would convince those who voted delete that it meets wikipedia standards. Arbusto 16:06, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Notability tags, like AFD tags, are for editors not for users. Leaving them on an article permanently just defaces the article and clogs up the category. 17:49, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
1) What's the difference between an editor and user? 2) Tags aren't "permanently" on articles, but are left to address concerns. I guess it is possible that a tag can be left "permanently" if that concern is not addressed, but I am not aware of a situation. I believe you should reinsert the tag or provide proof that it meets notability standards. Arbusto 22:52, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
"User" = "reader". A notability tag is there to warn editors that the article is likely to fail an AFD - well it survived the AFD so the tag is now redundant. Frankly I'm not very interested in defending this thing, but it took all of 30 seconds to find more nontrivial independent third-party coverage. [2] Kappa 23:00, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
It survived due to a lack of consensus, which means it may very well be up for a AfD again for lack of notability. How does that link meet WP:CORP? Arbusto 23:07, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
See WP:CORP #1. Kappa 01:31, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
You are asserting two religious websites are meet CORP #1? CORP #1: "The product or service has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the company itself." So is church news is considered "non-trival" and independent of the school? Can you find any mainstream news article on it? Or any famous faculty? That would meet notability standards. Arbusto 05:40, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Also you do know the sources you cited noted this unaccredited school does not have classes, but it does distance learning on the internet and at various churches? Arbusto 06:08, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
That fact merits mention in the lead, so I've promoted it. As far as I'm concerned it passes WP:CORP but I'm not very interested in defending it so I'm not going bother looking for other notability. Regarding WP:CORP, a requirement for mainstream coverage is too restrictive for an all-purpose encylopedia. The coverage seems clearly nontrivial (trivial: "school holds car boot sale") and I don't believe the institution is in a position to control the church-related press - if it does that shows a different kind of importance. Since this is a tertiary institution, I think the question we should try to answer is "do they have legitimate tertiary-level staff?". Kappa 02:03, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bratz characters

I notice that you removed a PROD tag I'd added to various Bratz characters with the summary WP:MERGE. However, I don't think it's appropriate that the level of detailed information on the subpages should be added to the List of Bratz characters page. This was discussed with Alcy, who created most of these pages, in the context of the AfD discussion on Ciara (Bratz character).

Please respond as to how we should now proceed, as I'm anxious not to waste community effort on so many pages by taking them all to AfD unless it's essential to develop a consensus. Thanks. Espresso Addict 21:46, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

If Alcy doesn't mind there's no problem redirecting to the list. Kappa 01:04, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
OK, I've proposed this on the various talk pages. Espresso Addict 02:27, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Concerning Sun and Steel (essay)

Thanks for your effort; and I must really learn to use the CSD-numbers (A7). The article in the deleted version didn't, at least imho, assert the notability of the subject. But I would have undeleted it anyway. Cheers. Lectonar 14:18, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kansas City (disambiguation)

Hello. Can you explain why you reverted the Kansas City (disambiguation) page? Nothing links there. There is already a disambig page at Kansas City. If people search they get the real disambig page, so what purpose does it serve? --Hobbes747 14:39, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

If someone links to or searches for that title, they will be taken to where they want to go, instead of being invited to create a new article there. Kappa 16:52, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A little bit late

Erm... roughly half a year ago, thanks for the close shave on the South Western AfD. Simply south 23:11, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Votestacking

Regarding [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] You have been on wiki long enough to know that votestacking and internal spamming are unacceptable. Please stop. JoshuaZ 21:06, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

  • You are trying to remove our voice from wikipedia, thanks for reminding me that I'm not trying hard enough to prevent this. Kappa 01:49, 26 September 2006 (UTC)


Your contributions history shows that you have been aggressively cross-posting in order to influence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2006_September_22#Finger_Lakes_Christian_School. Although the Arbitration Committee has ruled that "[t]he occasional light use of cross-posting to talk pages is part of Wikipedia's common practice"1, such cross-posting should adhere to specific guidelines found in Wikipedia:Spam. In the past, aggressively worded cross-posting has contributed towards an Arbitration Committee ruling of disruptive behavior that resulted in blocking2. It is best not to game the system, and instead respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building, by ceasing to further crosspost, and instead allowing the process to reflect the opinions of editors that were already actively involved in the matter at hand. Thank you.  YDAM TALK 02:36, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

  • This issue is relevant to every inclusionist wikipedian, because if deletionist admins can ignore us at will it effectively means the end of the inclusionist voice in wikipedian affairs. Kappa 02:38, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
    • It is relevant to all sides of the debate. Perhaps you could inform those members of Category:Deletionist Wikipedians as well to ensure a fair debate  YDAM TALK 02:43, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
      • I think it would be rather divisive to go and invite wikipedians to endorse the stance that the views of those who disagree with them are "absurd" and should be dismissed. Your mileage may vary. Kappa 02:45, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Kappa, please stop. If you continue, I am going to ask another admin to block you. JoshuaZ 02:46, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Please stop indeed. I find that mass posting to be disruptive. Please find some other venue of dealing with this issue. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
What do you suggest? Kappa 02:56, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
        • Two things. Vote Stacking gains nothing. An appeal for help is one thing, if you know that the editor in question has a history of supporting the topic in question. secondly, I am willing to take a look at it. Could you give me a link of an old version that I can take a look at to determine its notability. Wikipedia's False Prophet holla at me Improve Me 03:06, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
I don't quite know what to suggest, but mass-posting is not the way to go, no matter how strongly you feel about the issue. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:09, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
I have listed this issue at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Spamming for DRV --After Midnight 0001 04:02, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
People have the right to be informed before they get stabbed in the back, not after. Kappa 04:51, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Following policy is not stabbing people in the back. Also see my comment below. JoshuaZ 04:53, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Not informing people that "policy" is suddenly disenfranchising them is stabbing them in the back. Kappa 05:50, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
I believe that you were warned at 2106-UTC on the 25th and that at 0149-UTC on the 26th, you stated that you were going to knowingly violate policy, since your message above was immediately before you began your second wave. --After Midnight 0001 10:22, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Informing editors about their potential loss of voice in wikipedia discussions is not a violation of any reasonable interpretation of policy. Kappa 01:23, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
My misunderstanding; since your comment immediately followed mine, I assumed that you were saying that my listing of the issue at AN/I was a stab in your back. My response to you was therefore my explaination of why I felt my actions were not as so characterized. Obviously, I did not understand you correctly and your clarification renders my response of 10:22-26-Sep-2006 moot. --After Midnight 0001 02:20, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Votestacking

[8] Behavior like this is unacceptable, and boderline gaming the system. Stop it or you will be blocked for disruption. Yanksox 03:59, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Your spam also contained an error, because you forgot a colon in the Category link, putting all these users' talk pages in the category. Also, about half of these users are totally inactive. These are the least of the problems with your spamming. —Centrx→talk • 04:05, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
I am not spamming or votestacking, I am informing editors of an issue which affects all of us. Kappa 04:48, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Kappa, have you read WP:SPAM#Canvassing? This is a textbook example. JoshuaZ 04:51, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Kappa you posted an "Appeal for you to help" On my userpage discussion. I agree with joshuaZ, that was a direct violation of WP:SPAM#Canvassing. Though I do consider myself an Inclusionist, an article must first have "Good content" to be considered for inclusion.
Also do me a favor and read: WP:POINT, It might help you understand what's going on here.Defraggler 13:59, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Your User Contributions show that you've made a bizarre number of requests that inclusionists visit a debate. It is spam. It is votestacking. Ironically, your plea for one inclusionist to join the debate brought the issue to my attention when I was visiting his user page. Why ironic? Because my contribution to the deletion review was to say that it needed to stay deleted. Spamming like that may just alienate some inclusionists and lure some deletionists. Wryspy 06:03, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Desperate situations require desperate measures. Kappa 02:05, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Kappa, are you still unwilling to acknowledge that votestacking is wrong and disruptive? JoshuaZ 02:48, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Schools AfD et ali.

Now, now, I understand your worry in a possible full-out war on high school deletions, etc. I am one person who have lived to see through all these carnage and how the debate has eventually evolved. And back then, someone actually got killed in the process. Please, I don't wish to see you becoming the next casualty, don't mass post messages on fellow editors anymore.

The main arguement that can only currently override the whole agreement on retaining school-related articles is simply verifiability, and fulfilling that through providing reliable sources will almost always solve the problem. Even if there are editors out there who wants to escalate these, please, don't add onto it.

- Best regards, Mailer Diablo 10:36, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

If admins get to impose their own personal standard of notability and ignore all dissenting opinions, no amount of verifiability will make any difference. Kappa 01:21, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
If users get to impose their way by spamming a particular section of voters to get their own way then lack of notablity won't make any difference either. Arbusto 02:23, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
You don't seem to have been following the discussion. Kappa 02:31, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Going back to Mailer diablo's comments, I don't see much evolution in the debate, we still waiting patiently for deletionists to accept some kind of compromise based on merging. Kappa 02:45, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Propose a policy for it that isn't wrapped up in ridiculously inclusionist keep policies like WP:SCHOOLS is and the "deletionists" might consider it. JoshuaZ 02:50, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Would you agree with Mailer diablo that "main arguement that can only currently override the whole agreement on retaining school-related articles is simply verifiability, and fulfilling that through providing reliable sources will almost always solve the problem." Kappa 03:30, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Somewhat. In practice this seems to not even be true as the recent "compromise" with the DRV indicates (where it wasn't even clear to me that the school met WP:V). Among other issues with the statement I don't think there is some "whole agreement" about these, merely a well-organized push by a group for keeping the articles. However, this doesn't alter that I would (and I suspect many others) would be willing to consider a general merger proposal if it weren't tied into generous keep conclusions but was made as a separate item. JoshuaZ 05:10, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
  • To be honest, I haven't heard of the terms "deletionist-inclusionist" for a long time since the era of Votes for Deletion. Traditionally as a trend high-school articles are usually kept, and it is also up to the quality of the school article itself. Notability is now less used as an arugement for deletion, now mainly superceded by verifiability. Just so that you know and get updated of the deletion culture at the moment. Don't get worked up, don't worry, I do not see we are ever going to undergo a repeat procedure of the Userbox Wars where thousands of school articles are put into the fire-range. - Mailer Diablo 09:33, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Per your vote

Per your AfD vote I would like to point out that the wanted poster is not of the subject of the article and is of an unrelated person. The issue has been brought to AN/I regarding Geo Swan's reinsertion of the image and FBI information after already admitting they are unrelated. --NuclearUmpf 04:08, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Hmmm. Kappa 04:47, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
    • There is discussion on the talk page regarding it, and you can see the names are quite different. Geo Swan states he discovered the link himself by assessing that arab names are hard to illiterate and the FBI must have been mistaken. Feel free to use my talk page if you need further info, I dont want you to feel like im pushing you, just wanted to bring that to your attention. I have tried removing it, he just keeps reverting. --NuclearUmpf 04:57, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Thanks for bringing it to my attention. It's not clear to me if it belongs in the article or not but I won't base my AFD opinion on it. Kappa 04:59, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
        • NuclearUmpf is mischaracterizing me here, and on the administrator's noteboard. I didn't say what he says I said. -- Geo Swan 18:12, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
          • [9] "I don't think you understand. It doesn't matter whether they are the same person. I didn't assert they are the same person" --NuclearUmpf 18:41, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cotwall End Primary School

Certain people seem to be under the impression at that AfD that WP:SCHOOL is not an attempted compromise but rather an attempt to include pretty much all schools. Since you seem to think it is a compromise, you may want to discuss this with them. JoshuaZ 20:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] reply to your comment

Hey, you left a comment on my discussion page but reverted it for some reason. Anyways, I'd be glad to help, and inclusionism most certainly is NOT absurd. I'll get right on it :). Mk623SC20K 22:05, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

oh, seems it's been fixed! great. sorry i couldn't get there in time, i should log in more often. Mk623SC20K 22:07, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] your comment

Hi Kappa Centrex reverted your comments on my talk page (as if I wanted that?) so I wasn't aware of the situation until it was evidently too late. Thanks for keeping me posted. I am interested in this type of thing, despite what the censors may think. Thanks Joe 22:03, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked

Your contributions history shows that you have been aggressively cross-posting in order to influence school deletion debates. Although the Arbitration Committee has ruled that "[t]he occasional light use of cross-posting to talk pages is part of Wikipedia's common practice"1, such cross-posting should adhere to specific guidelines found in Wikipedia:Spam. In the past, aggressively worded cross-posting has contributed towards an Arbitration Committee ruling of disruptive behavior that resulted in blocking2. It is best not to game the system, and instead respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building, by ceasing to further crosspost, and instead allowing the process to reflect the opinions of editors that were already actively involved in the matter at hand. Thank you. I have also blocked you for 48 hours, as this was not your first offense and previous warnings do not seem to have had an effect. --Cyde Weys 14:40, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

I'll be discussing this with a view to having it lifted. It was a really silly thing for you to do, but it was days ago. Blocks are preventative, not punative, and it's not anyone's place here to "teach you a lesson." - brenneman {L} 14:57, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

I'll unblock him so long as he doesn't resume the spam, which seems to have stopped days ago, anyway. Jonathunder 15:24, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bad faith afd nomination

Hi. Empire of Atlantium has been nominated for afd - for the sixth time. The nomination has been made in bad faith by a suspected sockpuppet. You voted to retain this article in February. Thought you might be interested to know. If not, sorry to trouble you. --Gene_poole 09:05, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sloppy Jo's Lunchroom

Please reinstate the Sloppy Jo's Lunchroom. That entry was accurrate, informational, and verifiable. It's contents remained consistent with other similar entries ..ie Potbelly Sandwich Works.

Thanks so much and kindest regards, Debi

  • Hi Debi. Unfortunately I am not in a position to reinstate the Sloppy Joe's Lunchroom, and I wouldn't really be able to persuade anyone else to. The version I saw was, I imagine, accurate, but it was not verifiable by wikipedia standards, because it had no references and I couldn't find anything on Google. The difference with Potbelly Sandwich Works is both one of size and of the fact that it's easy [10] to find evidence that it not only exists, but that people care enough to talk about it in reliable sources. I recommend that you create an entry for it at wikinfo, yellowikis or someplace like that... it if does accumulate some verifiable external coverage you may be able to try again later. Kappa 01:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] North and South Downs

Eh? Why? - CrazyRussian talk/email 00:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Puxatony Middle School

Thanks for your interest in Puxatony Middle School. I consider that schools are generally notable, but this article seems to be a hoax. I don't think there is a place called Puxatony in Nunavut, and the name doesn't sound right for an Inuit place name. Puxatony does not appear in List of communities in Nunavut or in Category:Communities in Nunavut. Please take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Puxatony Middle School. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 03:17, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "deprod"?

You forgot to add your rationale for removing the {{prod}} from "On The Way To Cape May". Without doing so, some could take it as being a baseless decision — rather a capricious action than one with merit and reasoning. The tag itself also recommends that you do the same: "To avoid confusion, it helps to explain why you object to the deletion, either in the edit summary or on the talk page." Since you didn't annotate either place, I worried you might not have realized that that inaction could be mis-interpreted. Thanks for working on Wikipedia, we appreciate everybody's contributions! — pd_THOR | =/\= | 18:07, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

If my edit summary is just "deprod" it can generally be taken to mean "I don't agree that this article should be deleted". Sometimes it means "I think this article should be deleted as it stands, but I'd like to give others the chance to save it", or "I think it should be deleted, but others might disagree, so they should get a chance to voice their opinion". Kappa 18:18, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Haverford AfD

I know exactly what you mean. Thank you, and I apologize in turn if I became too touchy. Deletions, especially on this particular topic, tend to get somewhat heated, and it's important to remember that the people arguing against you are still trying to improve Wikipedia. On the plus side, it does look as if the article's improving a bit, even if it's all just demographic data so far. Shimeru 04:59, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

By the way, I found that the middle school shared a campus with the high school from the 1930s to the 1950s; the high school moved into a new campus in the 1950s, leaving the middle school with the old campus. WhisperToMe 05:04, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Betrayal on books

Planning a bonfire?
Planning a bonfire?

Deletions are proposing a guideline which will almost delete any book unless its been covered in "works serving a general audience". Attempts to tone this down have been reverted [11]. I don't think it's fair to betray wikipedia users who want to read about specialist-interest books like this, but your mileage may vary. Kappa 18:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deprodding articles

You are continuing to deprod articles without providing reason, and place undocumentde redirects.

Why do you reverting my changes without explanation? Stop removing prods now. --ArmadilloFromHell 01:29, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

  • ROFL "Stop removing prods now.". OK, I'll wait 5 days then take them off. Kappa 01:30, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Stop removing prod tags. People write ""NN" or something like that in their prod statement. Just because you think that's not sufficient, don't remove the tag. Either, fix up the article yourself and remove the tag, or just leave it alone. Almost all prods are deleted within 5 days, and when we do delete them, we systematically review over the article, and judge if it should be kept on Wikipedia. Nishkid64 01:35, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
If a prod tag says "Not notable per WP:BIO" and I think "Notable per WP:BIO" I'm going to take it off. Kappa 01:39, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Guys, just send all articles to AfD. That's what's supposed to happen when something's deprodded. Yanksox 01:41, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes, if you feel have to clog AFD with notable Pakistani actresses and harmless redirects go right ahead. Kappa 01:43, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't like your argumentive tone, and I'm going through your contribs and taking it to AfD. Yanksox 01:51, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

There is nothing in WP:PROD that requires a reason to be given. youngamerican (ahoy hoy) 01:47, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm not often on Kappa's side on this sort of thing, but if Kappa thinks that it passes an actual guideline then he has every right to remove the prod and should do so. If you disagree, take it to AfD. (And I for one am not worried about "clogging" AfD since they often bring articles to peoples attention and result in improvement that would otherwise not occur). If Kappa were systematically deprodding articles because he liked the topic and it clearly didn't meet the relevant guideline that would be possibly a different case. In any event, vandalism templates were not necessary and unhelpful. JoshuaZ 01:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I do think Ayesha Sana is not notable. Judging from the lack of links from other articles and the number of G-hits (although not always accurate), I don't believe they are notable. And I can't find any external links that can verify any possible future additions tot he page. The appropriate thing to do here is to send to AfD then. Nishkid64 01:54, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree that no reason is required to be given per WP:PROD, however, it is certainly advised that in most cases a rationale should be given. Removing prods for any reason is allowed, but removing prods for no reason seems pretty close to disrupting Wikipedia to make a point. Seraphimblade 01:59, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

It's perfectly within the "rules" of Prod to remove the deletion tag without any explanation or edits or anything. It's considered polite and helpful, when de-prodding, to give at least some brief explanation in the edit summary, even if it seems that it should be obvious. Edit summaries make page histories and watchlists more useful, and there's no real reason not to use them. Still, if Kappa sometimes neglects to provide a reason for de-Prodding, I don't see that as a reason to throw rules and warnings at him, more of a reason to ask politely for increased communication.

Kappa, do you think you could make a point of leaving a brief explanation in the edit summary when you remove a Prod tag, to help other editors keep track of what's going on? I get the impression that several people would appreciate it. -GTBacchus(talk) 02:09, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree in principle, GTBacchus, but the problem here is that this particular user is removing prods pretty much anywhere they're placed, without an explanation. To draw a converse analogy: If I hit the random article button one hundred times, and place a prod on each article without even looking at its content and without any reason, I would quickly and correctly be found to be acting in bad faith and wasting the time of other editors, even though in principle anyone is allowed to place a prod tag for any reason. WP:POINT addresses exactly this type of situation-if you disagree with a policy you should debate it, in the appropriate place, not sabotage it to get your point across. Seraphimblade 02:14, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
If you want an explanation of any particular deprod, you can get one. For the general case I have made User:Kappa/deprod. Kappa 02:17, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Why not put a link to that in the edit summary, if you have nothing more detailed to say? It seems it would be easy, and it might help.
In reply to Seraphimblade, it's not clear to me that Kappa is trying to sabotage anything, but I can see how frustrating it would be for someone who has added a bunch of Prods in good faith to see them removed without explanation. Kappa, I'm curious, do you find that a majority, or very large portion, of the prods you remove are for some particular common reason? In other words, is there a particular way in which you see Prod being misapplied more than others? -GTBacchus(talk) 02:39, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I didn't say he meant to. I said he is. Seraphimblade 02:46, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
  • The most common misapplication is for articles that can be merged, or simply redirected. However I try to say "mergeable" or something in these cases. Kappa 02:55, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

ArmadilloFromHell is way out of line here. I'll quote from my own user talk page to explain my position: "...anyone can remove the prod immediately and at any time, with or without a reason. Merely removing the prod isn't necessarily a statement of disagreement with the person who placed the prod, but it is a statement that at minimum, further discussion is desired, although it could also mean more. A prod is a Sword of Damocles, an immediate threat of speedy deletion that is removed when a deletion is debatable. It's intended to be easy to remove. Please don't take it so personally when people remove your prods, don't put them back, and don't tell people they can't remove them unless they meet your arbitrary standards first." Posting vandalism warnings in response is absolutely wrong. Unfocused 02:26, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree that warnings (especially a final one) may have been counterproductive-removing prods isn't a blockable offense by any policy, nor is failing to comment on them (and I disagree that a single subpage constitutes a meaningful comment). I would, however, like to see specific objections to the deletion of specific articles. If nothing else, the person who placed the prod may have overlooked something in favor of the article remaining. In that case, a specific explanation would prevent an unneeded AfD request, while removal without explanation is likely to immediately send the article to AfD.
However, keep in mind that we do have an ArbCom for a reason-and much of that they deal with is those who are gaming the system per WP:POINT, violating completely the spirit of a guideline or rule while keeping within a strict interpretation of its letter. Kappa, I believe that you are following the letter of the PROD rules, but by failing to examine each PROD proposal on its individual merits (or at least in failing to provide your rationale in anything other then a single "form letter"), I believe you're violating the spirit of them-that prods should be removed by those with a specific, genuine objection, not with an ax to grind against deletion in general, much the same as in the reverse situation I provided above-prodding a bunch of articles and figuring "the ones that should really stay will get sorted anyway." You're rather doing the reverse of that-removing prods left and right so that "AfD can sort it." Seraphimblade 02:46, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


(edit conflict)I'm petty sure ArmadilloFromHell made an honest misake, and it would be frustrating to see 100 prods removed for seemingly no reason. The excerpt you quoted, Unfocused, is correct and well-stated; focused, even. -GTBacchus(talk) 02:39, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
For your information, you are mistaken, none of the prods that were removed were put there by me, so there was nothing I could possibly take personally. --ArmadilloFromHell 02:35, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Kappa, how can you be sure that other users will think that the article should not be prodded? If you are thinking about what other Wikipedians will think, then you must also believe that there are others who will want to delete the article. You have to look at both sides here, not just one. Nishkid64 02:42, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Again, it does not matter. Perhaps we should have called it "uncontested deletion" instead of "proposed deletion." It is kind of like seeking unanimous consent for deletion. Kappa's actions amounted to the Wikipedia community noit granting unanimous consent, therefore the article should go to AfD to seek a wider consensus for deletion. Before prod, all of these articles went to AfD and it was tedious, to say the least. There were tons of uncontested AfDs, so hence, WP:PROD. The authors of prod wanted to make it crystal clear that it was only meant to act as a pressure release valve on AfD and be wide-open to objection. As I said, it can be frustrating, but the system works. youngamerican (ahoy hoy) 02:49, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfC

You may wish to comment on the RfC about you: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Kappa. Regards, Kavadi carrier 12:30, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge tags

Related to the prodding issue, I have a question for you. I think we both agree that merging is in many cases preferable to deletion. I hope you would consider, when you edit an article to "deprod per WP:MERGE", to add a {{merge}} to the article. Of course this is not a requirement or anything, but it may be helpful to other editors, as well as spread the "idea" of merging (which, to my perpetual surprise, many editors seem not to have heard of). Yours, >Radiant< 08:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Yes I'll try to do more of that. Does seem to be a lost art. Kappa 08:58, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Warning

Calling admins "parasite" ([12]) has no possible good outcome. I recommend you review WP:CIVIL. Guy 00:16, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

I was referring to deletionists in general, not this admin in particular. Kappa 03:24, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh that's charming, so instead of making a personal attack on a single editor you made it on a class of editors. Does that somehow make it more ok? JoshuaZ 06:54, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Deletionists are people who take knowledge away from the world because they don't acknowledge that Wikipedia has any obligation to provide it. Kappa 19:42, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
First, the knowledge is available elsewhere so the "deletionists" aren't taking anything away. Second of all, Wikipedia has no obligation to anyone or anything. This is a project to make an encyclopedia. Third of all, some information is more important or more relevant than others and `having unverifiable or unnotable topics leads to cluttering, more vandalism to deal with and a variety of other issues. Fourth, if you think Wikipedia should have all information why distinguish between Wikibooks, Wikinews, Wikisource, Wikipedia or any other Wikimedia projects? Furthermore, why ever remove any sourced information. We should then have entries on every sinlge human with their name and date of birth if we can verifiy it. JoshuaZ 19:46, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
And regardless of your feelings on the matter that is no reason to call other editors "parasites" (I am however, happy that you are at least not attempting to votestack the newest DRV). JoshuaZ 19:47, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
The deletionists are taking it away from every human being on the planet who needs help getting it, to whom wikipedia is obliged to help provide "the sum total of human knowledge". Kappa 04:35, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Repeating yourself doesn't make the claim more true. Again, the information is still out there, just not on Wikipedia. Do you think we should have a biography of every human whom we can find any verifiable data point at? Because that's where your claim seems to lead and I think even you see that as absurd. My earlier responses to this comment still apply (a long with a note that in common parlance "sum total" when talking about an area of information doesn't necessarily mean every single detail). JoshuaZ 04:46, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes repeating myself doesn't seem to be getting the point across, so this will be the last time. You are betraying every human being on the planet who needs help getting access to knowledge. Kappa 07:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jenny Rom

Hi,

The G11 choice on my part was heavily-influenced by the lack of sources, and the article's lack of clarity. ("Given that the article is presently unverified, confusedly-written, and a bit fan-ish, I can justify CSD G11 as the best option for Wikipedia," thought Xoloz to himself) Knowing your talent for cleaning-up anything, I'll gladly undelete if you'd like. Best wishes, Xoloz 19:47, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Since you didn't reply directly, I've gone ahead and userfied her for you to clean at your convenience: User:Kappa/Jenny Rom. FWIW, I agree with Unfocused below. You do enormous good for Wikipedia, and no one should ever forget that. Best wishes, Xoloz 19:03, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good Work

It seems to me that Wikipedia in general is getting less inspiring and more depressing, but you're doing good work. I don't understand how anyone could prod Vitsœ without doing the ten second Google search to verify that they truly are notable, and then nominate it for deletion without doing that same ten second search, but they did, and that's the environment here lately. I think that the expanded deletion powers may have made some editors just plain lazy.

However, please don't let people get under your skin. It seems possible that some you've sparred with are doing this intentionally to have an excuse to block you. Don't give authoritarians any excuse to do that. You're adding value here by helping prevent the removal of valuable content added by other good-faith contributors. If you have to, step away from the deletion arena for a while; we'll miss you greatly, but it'll still be there later.

I appreciate almost all that you do here, and thank you for doing it. Unfocused 15:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Civility

Regarding [13], simply dismissing arguments as "bullshit" is both uncivil and counterproductive. Comments like that are why the current school AfD situation is so toxic. Please don't do that. JoshuaZ 04:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I didn't simply dismiss it as bullshit, I explained why that's what it is. Kappa 02:24, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
JoshuaZ, weren't you arguing to me recently that AfD wasn't toxic? Here? I'm completely cool with it if you've changed your mind, it would indicate perhaps you're feeling empathy with the editors whose good faith efforts are being removed. Unfocused 09:13, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] British Rail Class 37 37025

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[edit] Engro Chemical

I've added the "{{prod}}" template to the article Engro Chemical, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at Talk:Engro Chemical. You may remove the deletion notice, and the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. Brianyoumans 19:37, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks for letting me know. Kappa 01:54, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Since I haven't seen any improvements or arguments about why this is notable, I have sent it to AFD. --Brianyoumans 02:56, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
      • Thanks again. Kappa 02:58, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
        • Since I was wrong and Engro does meet WP:CORP (I should have done better research in advance), I have improved the article somewhat. I hope you like it! --Brianyoumans 17:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hoshin kanri - we can delete the copyvio part

On Hoshin kanri, I didn't notice the copyvio - the copyvio passage can be (should be?) deleted. Is the copyvio against http://www.tqe.com/hoshin.html? --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

  • It's here [14] , the bit starting "In 1965, Bridgestone Tire". I'll go take it out of the article. Kappa 03:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
    Can't get at it because I don't have a Google Books account - but that's trivia. I augmented the PROD reason a bit as well and will excise the copyvio from the transwiki entry. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:28, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting Categories of Jewish Athletes

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[edit] Changes to University of Guyana

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[edit] AfD nomination of Dominic Larrey

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[edit] List of Afghan companies

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article List of Afghan companies, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached.

I've been cleaning up categories for companies, and believe this list is now redundant. Egfrank 21:41, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wow.

I just took a moment to read through your archives, and I'd like to commend you for outstanding work maintaining general civility and level arguments. It's an admirable quality in a person, to be so concrete in personal ideologies. ALTON .ıl 07:36, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of pubs

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[edit] Attempt to delete subcategory of Jewish athletes

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[edit] Air Force Amy

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  • Hardly, Kappa. Eusebeus 10:59, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
    • Yeah good work keeping wikipedia whore-free there Euse. Kappa 18:22, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Southern Cayuga High School

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I noticed you removed the {{prod}} tab. Do you plan on improving the article? I don't see how it meets WP:N at all. If you don't plan on improving it, I'm unsure why you removed the tag. Nick Garvey 20:18, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't mean to be a constant bother.. but I still can't see anything that meets WP:N. I'm probably going to open an AfD discussion shortly if there still isn't, just figured I'd give you the heads up, don't want you to lose all your work if you can meet WP:N.Nick Garvey 18:58, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
You might be able to kill off this one. Actually I don't enjoy making articles about random high schools but I can make if more necessary. Kappa 23:03, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't mean to be insulting, and I guess I'm being bold, if not in the usual sense, but aren't you implying exactly the behaviour advised against in WP:POINT? SamBC 13:59, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
I don't believe improving wikipedia's coverage of high schools to be disruptive. Kappa 16:24, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
I think it's still clearly not the best way to make this point. There should be some sort of central discussion. If you think there should be a policy describing consensus that all high schools (or equivalent designations in other countries) are notable, draft one and propose it. At the moment, there does not seem to be any such policy (or, afaict, consensus). Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of respect for you and your views, even if I disagree with them; I just want to see this resolved in a less messy fashion. SamBC 18:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Propinquity

I haven't spammed anything. I found that wiktionary had one definition of the word and wikipedia had another. Clearly this is not right. I don't know how to resolve it short of AFD which seems to me to be a machine gun to kill a grasshopper. I am not an admin or even a widely experienced user. Rather than accuse me of bad faith, could I suggest that you offer a constructive suggestion to resolve the problem. --Concrete Cowboy 12:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

It looks to me like there is an encylopedic discussion in Wikipedia and a dictionary definition at Wiktionary. That is the way it should be. Kappa 23:10, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Alternative would involve moving the discussion of propinquity effect back to a separate page and turning propinquity into a disambiguation, maybe even a redirect to closeness which is already a disambig. Kappa 23:29, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] User:Kappa/Kaaos

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article User:Kappa/Kaaos, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Calton | Talk 05:51, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Stay the hell off my user pages please. Thanks

Nope. Thanks. --Calton | Talk 08:25, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

OK I have an asshole stalking me. Great. Kappa 08:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Not even wrong, but thanks for playing. Oh, by the way, this makes for informative reading. Remember it when you comment on the MFD discussion. --Calton | Talk 08:43, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I voted to keep the material in your userspace. However, your comments above constitue a personal attack. Consider this a warning. —Gaff ταλκ 19:21, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your edits to Eyes On Me

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[edit] Swearing and the rest of the b/s that happens.

Hey dude,

I see you keep getting "done" for swearing. I actually don't see what the big fucking deal is but a lot of people on here are so bloody anally retentive. I got blocked once for saying "bitch". Ha! I do actually agree with you about what's happening with the Eyes on Me thing but unless we can make it notable enough and pull it semi-away from Final Fantasy then it will have a chance to stand alone and have it's own article. Good luck, and really who gives a fuck about the swearing. The context of what you're saying is still getting through. RIANZ 00:50, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Trophy.jpg

Hmmm... I'm sure you have a good explanation as to why you uploaded Image:Trophy.jpg but I'm not sure I'm interested. I've deleted it. Pascal.Tesson 03:44, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I didn't upload it, I was trying to get it deleted so I tagged it with {{delete}}. I didn't realize it was actually the Commons page I had to get deleted. Kappa 11:44, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spam in Elan School

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How is this "blatant advertising"?

Elan School is a private, residential behavior modification program and school (beginning with 9th grade and extending beyond high school completion) in Poland, Androscoggin County, Maine.
It was founded in 1970 by psychiatrist Gerald Davidson and Joseph Ricci. In 2005 it had an enrollment of 172. The annual cost is $49,071.96.
The school's treatment methods are based on the "TC" or therapeutic community modality popularized in the 1950s at facilities such as Synanon, and later at Daytop Village.
Kappa 03:20, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

The vast majority of the article read like a brochure. Hardly surprising given that it turns out it was a direct cut and paste from http://www.elanschool.com/about.htm & http://www.elanschool.com/admissions.htm. Is that what you created? I can restore the article for you, but only if you make sure that you don't let the article get in this state again. (I'm going to be away today but may have time to do it tonight). Please let me know. (please use my talk page) Spartaz Humbug! 04:33, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

That's what was in the Google cache. You admin priviliges don't right you the right to delete things just because you are too fucking lazy or imcompetent to check the history. Kappa 19:25, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't think there is any call for swearing. I have already offered to undelete this. I don't think it is unreasonable to ask you to keep an eye on the article - surely its on your watchlist. Since I'm a very new admin I have asked on AN/I for advice on whether I handled this correctly. Spartaz Humbug! 08:05, 27 June 2007 (UTC)


DO SOME REAL RESEARCH ON THE ELAN SCHOOL, THE INFO YOU HAVE IS A SHAM, THERE COULD BE A REAL INTERESTING DEFINITION AND STORY IF YOU JUST LOOK INTO THE FACTS —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.68.45.2 (talk) 03:35, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Personal attacks

Hi there. You're an established enough editor, so I'm not going to insult you with a boilerplate warning. However, you're here long enough to know that this comment is entirely unacceptable here. I know you're annoyed about the article being speedied, but there's no call for that - Alison ☺ 08:12, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of List of listings magazines

I've nominated List of listings magazines, an article you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but in this particular case I do not feel that List of listings magazines satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion; I have explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of listings magazines and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of List of listings magazines during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Until(1 == 2) 16:30, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AFC

Hello. Please do not remove non-sense from AFC. Just deny them with a template. -FlubecaTalk 04:55, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

  • LOL "just". I don't see why I should waste my time typing out templates around junk, so next time I'll just leave it there. In any case that was also a personal attack, and shouldn't have been left around for google to find. Kappa 05:01, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Sorry for bursting in here, but I tend to agree with Kappa. It is perfectly fine to remove AFC submissions which are obviously not made in good faith such as personal attacks, patent nonsense, and basic vandalism. Since the submission was not made in good faith, there's no point in templating and keeping it for the submitter to find later, as the submitter very likely isn't interested in actually creating an article at all. -- ShinmaWa(talk) 21:12, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Baby bonds

Thank you for noticing the copyvio I missed. I do try to check against the references and googling select phrases on the AFC's I pass, but I let that one slip. I'll try to be more careful in the future. Henrik 09:41, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ethnic health or ethnicity and health

thaks Kappa for that helpful edit. i did wonder about which title to use as I prefer ethnicity ... to ethnic. but wasn't sure. as a wiki virgin i'm a bit uncertain about key actions like setting up a references section, so had to dump references into the text which isn't cool: maybe I shall learn.

(I should have logged in then you'd know where my talk page was but I'e not found it myself yet)

ceehd.

[edit] Dates of birth for fictional characters

Fictional characters aren't born. The dob for McGonnagal in Harry Potter should be referenced in the text, not in-universe as you have done. Ccrashh 13:36, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Heeeey Kappa

Since you don't seem to have been by Wiktionary in a while, please drop in here. Cheers! bd2412 T 04:10, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mani Madhava Chakyar

Hi Kappa, hope you remember me (you had helped me with the above article etc). My article Mani Madhava Chakyar has been translated to lot of other languages. In Malayalam wiki (ml.wikipedia.org) one of the picture i had contributed is been selected as feautured one and pic of the day. I would like to know then, whether it is automatically becomes a Featured Picture in en.wiki?(http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%9A%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82:Mani_Madhava_Chakyar-Sringara1.jpg)

Again that picture was slightly modified in ml.wiki, now if i want to use that in my english article , how can i transport it from malayalam wiki to english? What is the procedure of using my GFDL image in other languages wikis? is it like i have to upload the photo again and write the details? Please help me..Sreekanthv 07:05, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Enjoyed reading your talk pages...

... I'm a bit of a serial deprodder too :) Every now and then I'll cruise through the prod category - pick all the 'foreign sounding' names, do a bit of research and then deprod about half for being ridiculous nominations in the first place. Frankly, if you create a new article on En WP called Frank 'Bubba' Smith then chances are it will survive, try creating one called Nop Bayarith and it will be speedied within minutes :)

The first name I just made up and the second is a notable Khmer singer who was speedied not long ago - sigh.

Anyway, I came by to thank you for resurrecting the long dead List of Cambodian companies. It's watchlisted, wikiprojected, assessed and surrounded with AP mines. Any bugger who tries to prod, speedy or AfD this core Wikiproject article is in for a fight - thanks and see you 'round AfD! Cheers, Paxse 17:40, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

  • LOL you're welcome. I did strike me that wikipedia seems to need more articles on Cambodian companies, especially non-bank, non-airline companies... maybe this will stimulate development. Kappa 17:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sprawl Control

Given what I've read of your history (on WP) and views, I'd very much appreciate your input to the discussion and development of my Sprawl Control Policy Proposal. Thanks. SamBC 17:47, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sumo

I just was reading through your pages. Hopefully you don't think any of us at Wikiproject Sumo are deletionist. I found this group of intergrationists which I think fits what we are trying to do better. I don't think not having your own article is demoting by any means -- we just went through protecting the sumo glossary By putting all the yokozuna into context on one page I think makes a stronger context for everything.

Also, I noticed you put up a lot of pictures of all the yokozuna today. that's great! if you are interested that much in sumo, you should consider joining the sumo wikiproject. XinJeisan 06:35, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Any normal person would think that someone who is only worth discussing as part of a list is less notable than someone who gets his own article. Kappa 15:07, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merger proposed: ValueRx → Express Scripts Incorporated

It has been proposed to merge the content of ValueRx into Express Scripts Incorporated. Since you have previously edited one of these articles, I thought you might be interested. You're welcome to participate in the discussion if you like. --B. Wolterding 13:16, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] gunbai

I see you have un-redirected gunbai's article and added some to it. Good show; if there is content to add to the articles they shouldn't be redirected. Some more information about gunbai would also be great. Malnova 22:56, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] expanding articles

I made the glossary as an answer to all the stubs; another answer is actually expanding the articles and giving them some depth. Keep up the good work and getting rid of those nasty redirects :) Malnova 01:02, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Imraan Faruque

Good catch on the uav author and designer--some ip address had added a bunch of useless and un-important information. I'll leave the notability tag up on it for now and keep it on my watchlist. Happy editing and keep up the good work. [[Community editor 16:09, 19 July 2007 (UTC)]]

[edit] Muslim Association of Canada

Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Muslim Association of Canada, by another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Muslim Association of Canada fits the criteria for speedy deletion for the following reason:

blatant advertising. Unbalanced and unsourced self-promotional propaganda


To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting Muslim Association of Canada, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Feel free to leave a message on the bot operator's talk page if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot, bearing in mind that this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion; it does not perform any nominations or deletions itself. --Android Mouse Bot 2 03:25, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List_of_songs_about_masturbation is in it's 5th AfD

List_of_songs_about_masturbation is up for it's fifth AfD. You participated in an earlier one. If you wish to participate again, please go to Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_songs_about_masturbation_(5th_nomination) -- Lentower 03:57, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of List of schools in India

List of schools in India, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that List of schools in India satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of schools in India and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of List of schools in India during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Blueboy96 13:26, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Lauder - Morasha School

Lauder - Morasha School, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Lauder - Morasha School satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lauder - Morasha School and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Lauder - Morasha School during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. -- Kolindigo 21:04, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alexis y Fido

I didn't enjoy your comment here. Be careful, man. You could end up in trouble. --Boricuaeddie 15:35, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

BTW, I'm making it my top priority to hunt down these reggeaton articles and I'm going to nominate all that meet the deletion policy. Be alert. How's that for m:deletionism ;-) --Boricuaeddie 16:10, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
That would explain why you aren't bothering to look for sources properly. Kappa 16:25, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
You aren't, either. --Boricuaeddie 16:27, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
*Sigh* I give up. If people want to keep useless reggeaton articles, then so be it. :-( --Boricuaeddie 18:24, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Westcombe House

I noticed you removed the prod without comment. The article is now listed at AfD instead. Please if possible specify reasons for removing the tag next time. Thanks! Eliz81(talk)(contribs) 09:23, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

The Original Barnstar
To Kappa: I kept running into you at AfD in 2005. I'm glad to see you're as vigorously inclusionist as ever! Keep up your campaign and don't let those deletionsts get away with it. AndyJones 12:29, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shaw house and centre

hi, I'm watching this article with a bit of interest as a member of both WikiProject Shopping Centre and the Notability Drive. The reference you added to the annual report is quite a good find - however from terms of addressing notability, it would be regarded as a trivial reference because the annual report which mentions Shaw House, is not about shaw house. What the article really needs, are two secondary references, about Shaw House.

Personally, I think the article is actually saying something which is a lot better than a lot of articles about similiar types of buildings, so it would be a shame for the article to be deleted. But so far I don't know that it has met any actual inclusion criteria. Garrie 21:20, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD closure

I don't need a reasoning; that would a bias on the judge, right? I only need to determine a result, which was to delete. Consensus was pretty clear in the discussion. Sr13 03:18, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

What persuaded you that there was a clear consensus? Kappa 03:23, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recreation

Hi Kappa. Please do not recreate an article right after it has been deleted through AfD. You are welcome to submit Grand Hyatt Hong Kong to deletion review. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 18:53, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

So how long do you think I should have waited? Kappa 21:42, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Please refrain from introducing inappropriate pages, such as Grand Hyatt Hong Kong, to Wikipedia. Doing so is not in accordance with our policies. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. --Finngall talk 20:33, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I've deleted the page again and put it up at DRV. You know full well that this is the correct procedure and I'm not sure why you would choose not to follow my advice. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 04:56, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. However, we remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_August_4#Grand Hyatt Hong Kong. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. – Chacor 05:34, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of List of hotels in Hong Kong

List of hotels in Hong Kong, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that List of hotels in Hong Kong satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of hotels in Hong Kong and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of List of hotels in Hong Kong during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Pascal.Tesson 01:52, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Kappa. Please keep your temper in check [15]. You've been here long enough to know that this isn't conducive to productive debate. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 19:54, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Maybe I shouldn't have expressed my anger but I don't think lies are very conducive to productive debate either. Kappa 23:11, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ho-Oh

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Ho-Oh. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. If you want to discus it go to WT:PCP. -WarthogDemon 05:31, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

What's it got to do with them? Kappa 05:34, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm confused. You mean other than the fact the Project has decided to merge most of the pokemon articles into lists after discussion on the project's talk page? -WarthogDemon 05:35, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Look even your 3rr message says to use the talk page. What authority does the Pokemon project have over Japanese mythology? Kappa 05:36, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Japanese mythology? Huh? Neither your warning or your argument is making a lot of sense to me. -WarthogDemon 05:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
OK either read the fucking talk page or read the fucking lead. Kappa 05:40, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
I have looked at the article's talk page. It says nothing contesting the merge. -WarthogDemon 05:41, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
I am not contesting the merge, I am saying it needs to be a disambig. Try to follow the discussion. Kappa 05:43, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
A disambiguation for what? Ho-Oh and Japanese Mythology? -WarthogDemon 05:43, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Actually it works better as a redirect to the right place. Kappa 05:50, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Kappa I agree with you for a disambigation only, I protected rather than to block both of you guys, even though you two does deserve a block for silly edit warning. And Kappa, see WP:CIVIL. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 06:09, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Be Civil

Let's try to discus this civil. Fuck is a great word to use in anger, but there are places not to use it; here is not a place to use it. -WarthogDemon 05:54, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ho-Oh

I've looked over this issue briefly, and I think that the two of you seem to be misunderstanding each other.

Kappa, this is an article about Pokeman, (which I gather is a game of sorts, but I'm not sure) and Ho-Oh is a named character in that game. This has absolutely nothing to do with Japanese mythology in the context it is used. You can not just decide to change the page into a disambiguation. And you cannot just redirect the page to what you feel like it should go to. The current Ho-Oh page must redirect to the page: List of Pokémon (241-260)#Ho-Oh as per the discussion on the page Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pokémon.

And please do not use obscenities when talking to others, even on your talk page, that is a personal attack, and not allowed on Wikipedia. Both of you should probably take a step back, breathe, and realize this is not an issue to get up in arms over. And Kappa, you need to stop redirecting the page to something unrelated to Pokemon, or you risk being blocked from editing. You both are violating the 3RR rule, so please stop. Thank you, Ariel♥Gold 05:56, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

What should someone who types in Ho-oh looking for a discussion of a Japanese phoenix do? Kappa 05:59, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, my first suggestion would be to go to the Japanese Wikipedia, as I'm guessing that's the Japanese name for the phoenix? I fully understand your frustration, translating into English, and trying to find what you're looking for, but there are other ways to go about it, rather than engaging in revert wars, and using obscenities towards others in the community. (And I'd like you to realize that WarthogDemon was doing recent change patrol, not targeting you for some specific reason - his reversion was valid, the page was supposed to be merged along with the other hundreds of Pokemon character pages.)
If Ho-Oh is the absolute ONLY way to say phoenix in Japanese (which of course, I do not know), then I suggest you go to the Pokemon project talk page, and discuss the issue in a civilized manner, and ask for someone to create a disambiguation page for Ho-Oh. But you cannot simply redirect to another page without regard for the context it is most often used in.
I'm not going to be involved further in the issue, as I've given you about as much information as I can, and I'm not someone who knows about this Pokemon thing, so additional information will need to come from the project page. I hope you can understand, and you can realize that it is simply a misunderstanding between you two, and need not be an issue to attack someone on. Thank you, Ariel♥Gold 06:10, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Um why don't you go read the article I redirected to? Kappa 06:14, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
I did. It has nothing to do with Pokemon game characters. The page has been protected. If you have further issues, take it to the Pokemon project page, please. Thank you, Ariel♥Gold 06:15, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I Have Backed Out Of The Dispute

But please, stop harrassing User:ArielGold. I brought her into this to try and clear things up (which actually caused more confusion, admittedly, because I thought she was a part of WP:PCP when she wasn't). I did not bring her into this to be the subject of personal attacks. If anyone, these attacks should at the very least be directed at me. As it stands, Wikipedia doesn't allow personal attacks whatsoever, so please stop. -WarthogDemon 06:53, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

I have since removed myself from this dispute. Please ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pokémon#Ho-Oh. -WarthogDemon 23:55, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
I have stepped out of the dispute. Enough. -WarthogDemon 05:49, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes you "removed yourself" from trying to understand what was happening a long time ago and instead decided to rely on the 3RR. I just wanted that to be clear. Kappa 05:52, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Final warn

This is your only warning.
The next time you make a personal attack, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. - specifically this one, which was completely uncalled-for. Please try to be more civil in future - Alison ☺ 06:59, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Sorry, I should have realized that user didn't know that they were doing and why. I'll know better in future. Kappa 22:54, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Point is that "what the fuck are you doing" is not an appropriate response in any case - Alison ☺ 23:19, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
  • What is an appropriate response to someone who has just joined a revert war by invitation without figuring out why it is happening? Kappa 23:22, 6 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Notification of proposal: Guideline/policy governing lists

Given your participation in recent AfDs involving lists (most notably Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of chefs, I'd appreciate your input on the following:

Wikipedia: Village pump (policy)#Proposal to make a policy or guideline for lists

PLEASE NOTE: Civility would be appreciated. Launching into profanity or personal attacks will NOT help your argument at all - to the contrary, it will more than likely hurt it. Just an FYI, given your track record. However, when you're civil, you generally have good insight, as you showed during Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Iranian women.

Thank you in advance for any thoughts you may have on the topic. Sidatio 16:23, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Do not patronize me, civility is more than you deserve. Kappa 21:53, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notification of proposal to delete List of Latvians

Please be advised I have removed your notice and responded as in the article's talk page as requested by the template notice. —  Pēters J. Vecrumba 01:51, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ANI

Given your recent behavior, I have begun a discussion on ANI seeing as you've been warned several times to stop. --Coredesat 08:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of high schools in the United States

A tag has been placed on List of high schools in the United States, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect to a nonexistent page. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. xxpor yo!|see what i've done 19:18, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Linking to a category

I fixed your comment in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of chefs, specifically your link to Category:Japanese chefs. In order to link to a category, place a colon in front of category, like so [[:Category:Japanese chefs]]. Without the colon, MediaWiki places a page in the category instead of linking to it. You can also use this to link to an image ([[:Image:Placeholder.png]] gives you Image:Placeholder.png) Thanks, --Phirazo 18:04, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes I know how, I sometimes forget, sorry. Kappa 00:19, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prodding copyvios

Please use Template:Copyvio if you discover a copyright infringement, and blank the page when doing so. You can list such pages at Wikipedia:Copyright problems following the instructions on the template. Whereas Template:Copyvio gives explicit instructions not to remove the template, to ensure that it is reviewed and deleted, Template:Prod says that anyone is free to simply delete the template. —Centrx→talk • 03:12, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] El Toro Handrail, revisited

Hi, you commented on the last time El Toro Handrail was put up for deletion (here), and had some interesting things to say. I've put it up for deletion again (here), and I'd like you to review the article one more time. ALTON .ıl 06:55, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] August 2007

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Wardrobe malfunction, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Tiptoety 23:00, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I would like to apologive for the warning, it was wrong of me and if i could take it back i would. All i saw was removal of text from an article without an explanation of why in the edit summary and assumed it was vandalism, that is my bad. I will be more careful next time. Thank you, See you around! Tiptoety 04:51, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi.....

[edit] Prod Patrol

I see that, like me and a bunch of others, you like to keep an eye on Prods. Check out Wikipedia:WikiProject proposed deletion patrolling. Also, a different solution to deletion is merging. Check out: Association of Mergist Wikipedians. While there is some stuff that can't fit anywhere on Wiki, most stuff can be merged nicely into an existing article when under threat of deletion. With the use of the subsection redirect "#", a redirect can go straight to the merged section of an article. I find that is less controversial because both the people who want to delete an article and those who want to keep an article end up content (mostly!). SilkTork *** SilkyTalk 09:15, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Lists of alcoholic beverages

This category Category:Lists of alcoholic beverages appears to duplicate Category:Alcohol-related lists. There is a subtle difference, however we need to be aware of overcategorisation. As I don't like deleting stuff I'm considering putting a {{category redirect|Name}} tag in the category. Would you have any objections? Regards SilkTork *** SilkyTalk 09:15, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Yes, I object. The problem is that List of deaths through alcohol is an alcohol-related list, but not a list of beverages. I'll get back to sorting these lists, I got stalled because of my slow connection. Kappa 12:12, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
OK. As we disagree I'll put it up for discussion to get a consensus one way or another. My preference is for a merge, so that is what I'll be suggesting. SilkTork *** SilkyTalk 21:15, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Also - Integration

I've just become aware of a small, almost inactive project Wikipedia:WikiProject Integration, that you might be interested in, and which looks like it needs reviving. Good ideas, and good links on there. Regards SilkTork *** SilkyTalk 09:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CfD nomination of Category:Lists of alcoholic beverages

I have nominated Category:Lists of alcoholic beverages (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) for merging into Category:Alcohol-related lists (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. SilkTork *** SilkyTalk 21:27, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mammals of canada

Thanks for giving List of mammals of Canada a quick once-over. Some of the stuff you fixed in the lead was really embarrassing. Circeus 23:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Can you have a look at the row with "Nortwestern Deer Mouse" in? Not sure how to fix it myself. Kappa 23:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lists of fictional people

Good work on categorizing all those lists! For future reference, though: The correct category tree for lists of fictional characters is Category:Lists of fictional characters, not "Category:Lists of fictional people". --Paul A 03:19, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sociolinguistics research in India

Hi, I just wanted to let you know that the Sociolinguistics research in India article has been substantially improved since you !voted in the AfD. If you have time to take a look and comment again on the AfD that'd be great. Thanks! --Zeborah 06:21, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of St Peter's Woodlands Grammar

An article that you have been involved in editing, St Peter's Woodlands Grammar, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St Peter's Woodlands Grammar. Thank you. --B. Wolterding 11:19, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Foo-Americans and others

I suspect the deletionists will not be satisfied until they have deleted every single Foo-American list, if not also categories. The criteria for deletion is so subject to manipulation by deletion experts who fully spend their time in WP honing their deletion skills, I don't see what successful opposition will be. Writers/contributors to articles are not experts in arguing for retention. Hmains 04:50, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Song merging

Hi. I don't mean to be a jerk about the merging thing ("Freedom") and upon closer inspection I see WP:SONGS does not specifically outline that cover versions should be merged together. That said, there has been a long-standing effort by many editors to get multiple versions of songs put into the same articles (I can name quite a number of them here if you really want them, plus there is a user with a check-off list that people have been working from).... in addition a few of the "model" articles within WP:SONGS are set up this way (merged) and I think the general consensus is that song articles are about songs, not singles. Perhaps its time to reopen the discussion about cover versions in the WP:SONGS talk page. - eo 13:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Alright go ahead and merge it but at the moment it's broken, its two articles on one page. Also when you merge things you are supposed to mention where they came from in the edit summary see WP:MERGE. Kappa 13:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hellbore AfD

Hi - Suggest you check out your redirect Wikilink. It looks like you made a typo in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hellbore. Thanks. — Becksguy 10:54, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

  • I regard real flowers as more important than fictional weapons systems. Hellbore is a common (if maybe archaic?) spelling. Kappa 10:58, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Sorry for thinking it was a typo. You have a point. I added a comment in support of a disambig page to address your concern. Thanks. — Becksguy 21:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR

Please note that you are in danger of violating WP:3RR at Tamao Satō. An editor once said at Talk:Hitler, "don't say he was evil; just document his actions, and let the reader decide, based on his/her moral views, if he was a good man or a bad one". This applies here. Don't say she is well-known, just document her work and that she has been voted unlikable, as you have already, and let the reader decide if she is "well-known", as many people (such as me) may have very different definitions for that word, therefore making it a POV and a violation of WP:NPOV. --Boricuæddie 22:49, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Are you telling me she doesn't fit your definition of "well-known"? Kappa 22:53, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
No, I'm telling you that, by adding that, you are violating WP:NPOV, a policy, WP:PEACOCK, a guideline, and WP:3RR, another policy. --Boricuæddie 22:54, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
So we agree she is well-known, but you think it's POV to say so, despite the evidence? Kappa 22:56, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't make the rules, I just enforce them, except when I ignore them. --Boricuæddie 22:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and, BTW, you violated WP:3RR. I warned you, man. --Boricuæddie 22:58, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes thanks for the warning. I know you are "just following orders" that's why you are reverting without discussion. Kappa 23:00, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry it had to be like this. --Boricuæddie 23:11, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I think the problem with the 3RR is that it actually discourages "rule-enforcers" such as yourself from attempting anything challenging like talking. Kappa 23:38, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I did talk; you ignored me. --Boricuæddie 23:40, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Show me a diff of me ignoring you. Kappa 23:42, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
See all the diffs at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/3RR#User:Kappa_reported_by_User:Boricuaeddie_.28Result:_.29. --Boricuæddie 23:43, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Alright fuck it, I'm talking to a total moron. Go ahead and ban me. Kappa 23:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Civility

Please in the future mind the phrases you use. Also calling editors names is not recommended either. I see you have had warnings in the past, and as such, I will block you from editing for a few hours to prevent further disruption if this happens again. Regards, Navou banter 21:45, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

Per the same above! PatPolitics rule! 21:47, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unprotection of Tamao Satō

Hello. I'm going to request the unprotection of Tamao Satō, as you appear to be unwilling to discuss any changes. I can only do this if you accept the fact that you are wrong and that I am right and move on. If you are unwilling to do this, I'm afraid the article's going to stay protected. --Boricuaeddie is now Agüeybaná 01:43, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, please don't lie, you are the one who is refusing to discuss changes. Kappa 01:46, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Ok, then. We'll have to keep the page protected. --Boricuaeddie is now Agüeybaná 01:47, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
You do that. Kappa 01:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hissatsu attacks PROD

[16] Edit summary there really says it all. --tjstrf talk 04:54, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your User Page

Hi Kappa. Please don't disparage other users on your userpage, as you are currently doing with Boricruaeddie. Referring to him as having a "limited intellectual capacity" just because you have a difference of opinion regarding policy is decidedly uncivil. Please think about rewording your comment; just take out the personal attack. Thank you, bwowen talk•contribs 18:21, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

The reason I think he has a limited intellectual capacity is his refusal or inability to engage in discussion. Kappa 22:04, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
The diff is gone, so I'm not disparaging anyone in particular. It's important for newbie editors to know that wikipedia contains this type of individual. Kappa 22:07, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
(ec) Because thee only thing that needs to be discussed are the terms of your cease and desist of your attacks and violations of our policies and guidelines. IMO, there are only two ways this can be solved:
1.) You accept that you are wrong and move on. (suggested)
2.) You do not accept that you are wrong, continue to attack me, keep reverting my edits when the article is unprotected, and you get blocked.
You choose. --Boricuaeddie is now Agüeybaná 22:13, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
See what I mean? Kappa 22:14, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Oh, yeah, 'cause leaving a message on my talk saying "Fuck you" so demonstrates your intellectual capacity. --Boricuaeddie is now Agüeybaná 22:18, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Since you ignore anything I say , I have no particular incentive to be polite. Kappa 22:23, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't believe that's a good reason to be rude to other people. Please remember that personal attack is not acceptable at all --Cyktsui 14:48, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lauren Cohen (economist)

At AFD you did not clearly state your vote for Cohen which should say Keep if that is your sentiment.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:41, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stone Partridge

For some reason, I had to check out this page and I understand you started it. I think you made a mistake. I doubt very much that this bird is called Keklik. As far as I know, this is the name of a kind of rock partridge, the chukar (Alectoris chukar=A. kakelik). Dogo 21:47, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disappointment

As you say, there was another AfD, in which there was a clear consensus to delete. I am obviously aware that a previous AfD produced a vote to keep, but correct procedure requires that we determin consensus on the basis of opinions registered in the current debate. WP:VFU is now known as WP:DRV and, as you say, this is the place to go to try to get the page reinstated. I personally take no view whatsoever, I merely took note of consensus. If further debate results in the page being restored, then good for you. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 23:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Beatles songs

With respect to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Beatles songs, I'd appreciate your input at the talk page. Just in case your willing to spend further time here with a possibly wikistress reducing activity. Cheers --Tikiwont 10:24, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ejemekwuru

Hi Kappa, thanks a bunch for all the Nigeria-related articles you've been creating.

With regards to linking to allAfrica, two things. One, since it expires to non-subscribers eventually, could you try to link to the original newspaper's website if possible? I tried this with the Daily Champion yesterday or so and it didn't seem to have a copy, but with papers like the Vanguard and the Guardian, direct links can usually be found. Second, I find it best to leave off the Country: prefixes at the beginning of titles, because these are allAfrica's doing, as opposed to being part of the original title. Picaroon (t) 02:41, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Good ideas, thanks. Kappa 02:43, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Soul 2 Soul

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[edit] Images

I noticed you prodded an image. {{Prod}} is only for articles and the user namespaces; not for images. --Agüeybaná 18:49, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

If someone tells you an image is copyvio, you have an obligation to get rid of it. Kappa 22:35, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
I'll try {{db-copyvio}} instead. Kappa 22:38, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orkney islands

Thanks for your comment at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Orkney islands i.e. "Thank you, I like this list much more now." I am not sure if you intended to voice formal support for the candidature, or if you had further comments or objections. If you could clarify this there I'd much appreciate it. Thanks for your interest in the topic. Ben MacDui (Talk) 21:37, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks! Ben MacDui (Talk) 21:56, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:ALBUM#Non-English

Hi there. Can we please discuss the wording on WT:ALBUM. There are a number of other problems with your wording, but let's start with deciding what we want to say, before we decide how to say it. Please post to WT:ALBUM and describe what it is you wish this section to convey. --PEJL 12:48, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Please, let's discuss this at WT:ALBUM. --PEJL 12:56, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deprodding

If you would be so kind, please assist me in listing all the articles you deprodded on AfD. I'll start at the back end of the alphabet, you start at the front. Thanks, SolidPlaid 02:08, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

You must be joking. Why don't you find someplace to merge them? Kappa 02:09, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge tags

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[edit] Hello...

There is a user looking for help with a Japanese musical article and you've been recommended (not by me) as a source who might be able to help. Please see the discussion here [17]. I believe the links at the top of your page misidrected her to User:Agüeybaná. She's been posting hither and thither for help in quite a few places. I've asked her to keep her discussion to her talk page or the article's talk page. The article in question is Moeko Matsushita. Cheers and happy editing, Into The Fray T/C 04:07, 30 September 2007 (UTC)


[edit] E. M. Cope Middle School

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[edit] Sierra Vista Mall (second kick at the can)

Ummmm...I noticed you did not actually place a !vote at the AfD(2nd try). I do hope that you do do so, as now I believe the Citations will be able to stand on their own merit. Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 07:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] No content in Category:Cro

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[edit] Kazumi Tanaka

Kappa, you have to help me! Kazumi Tanaka is up for deletion! If it gets deleted, I can't recreate it myself! And if that happens, Christmas is ruined! If I have to ask to have it recreated, there may be almost a 100% chance that it may be kept deleted! You gotta help me!Kitty53 (talk) 02:42, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FYI, a discussion re: Lists of mammals in X articles

I noticed you changed some names of "List of mammals in X region" articles a while back. There's a discussion on how to name those articles at Wikipedia:Village pump (assistance)#List naming dispute: "in" vs. "of", and although I assume you'll disagree with me, I'd still appreciate your input. Noroton (talk) 19:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CfD nomination of Category:Female activists

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[edit] where has kappa gone?

just curious, your talk pages make interesting reading, but I haven't seen anything from you since Oct 20, 2007.

did you get tired of deprodding? xenocidic (talk) 19:31, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

wondering if it had anything to do with your edit summary for http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sierra_Vista_Mall_%28second_nomination%29&diff=prev&oldid=165798641 ... xenocidic (talk) 19:33, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Framingham High School seal.gif

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[edit] Heros

I added some cites to Heros, an article you created, when it kept being scrapped for a dab for want of references. If you happen to have citations of your own that you used to create it back then, please add them too. Cheers! -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:29, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Elan School

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As I said on the article's talk page, I was kind of tired(3am) when I clicked some buttons. Hence I placed a {{hangon}} tag to stop it from happening. I'm really sorry about this.— Dædαlus→quick link / Improve 10:01, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wardrobe malfunction

The current consensus is that the aticle is merged/redirect to that superbowl article. Please discuss your edits first on the discussion page of either article before reverting again. Garion96 (talk) 13:25, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Bad faith? At least I kept the bad article instead of just the redirect. Stop talking nonsense. Garion96 (talk) 15:52, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and be civil, it really is not that hard. Calling other editors "thug friends" is not acceptable. Garion96 (talk) 21:48, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CfD nomination of Category:Atomic Kitten

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[edit] Arab City Schools

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[edit] Speedy deletion of City Montessori School

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[edit] Speedy deletion of City Montessori School

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[edit] Proposed deletion of Carol Cummings

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[edit] AfD nomination of Dan Dan Kokoro Hikareteku

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[edit] AfD nomination of Carol Cummings

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[edit] AfD nomination of List of video games set in New York City

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