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[edit] AT&T logos

Hi, I'm the bastard that is replacing your AT&T image logos with PNG images. However, I'm trying to see your point of replacing the images such as the one with the new AT&T logo being vertical. I see that you recently replaced my Image:ATT-globe-1984-logo.png with your Image:Attglobe.gif. Is it because of the color tone of the globe? It probably is which is why I replaced ATT-globe-1984-logo.png's color tone to match with the Attglobe.gif. I hope I didn't cause an "edit war" with you on this specific article. :-P --J. Nguyen 02:35, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cite sources

Hi - Thank you for your addition to BellSouth! Please cite your sources for the information you added. I realize that most articles on Wikipedia unfortunately do not have proper sources cited but we are trying to correct that! Thanks! -SCEhardT 04:40, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

No problem! I've made a comment at BellSouth reflecting this. -SCEhardT 04:21, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MLK

I'm not quite sure why you changed "African-American" to "black" in reference to Martin Luther King Jr., but it had the effect of linking to the color black, not to the racial designation. Also, don't forget to explain your edits in the edit summary box. Thanks, -Will Beback 23:43, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Not to worry. The edit summary box sits between the eidting box, where you type your edit, and the "save" button. Cheers, -Will Beback 05:06, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{SBC}} to {{AT&T}}

I moved {{SBC}} to {{AT&T}}, as the company name is AT&T. I left the SBC link as a redirect, but could you go back and clean up the current instances? Thanks :) Admrb♉ltz (T | C) 21:20, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Image Tagging Image:Bellsouth building birmingham.jpg

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The source is solved but another issue is the license. From the evidence shown, David Massey is not the copyright holder of the image, Eric Paschal is. "Photo coutesy of Eric Paschal is too ambiguous." Who knows what Eric is willing to license. In order for this image to stay on Wikipedia, you need written communication from Eric that he allows this image to be released under public domain or another free license. That communication needs to be posted on the discussion page of the image (See Image:Zebra finch.jpg for an example). We get worked up about this because it is the law. -Nv8200p talk 20:43, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Sorry but what he says makes no sense. "Since the image is on your site for educational purposes, I see no reason my picture can't be on your site." What does that mean? It sounds like he is giving permission for just Wikipedia to use. These type of images are not accetable to the site (See Wikipedia:Image_use_policy#Free_licenses). He needs to understand and agree to "release the image into the public domain" or "license the images for free use." Thanks -Nv8200p talk 02:13, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit Summary request :)

Hello. Please remember to always provide an edit summary. Thanks and happy editing.

Admrb♉ltz (t • c • log) 03:15, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AT&T

Please see my comments at Talk:AT&T. I may agree with you on the need to merge the two paragraphs, but I want to make sure that we agree on the reason first. -Harmil 20:27, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. I just wanted to be sure. -Harmil 11:19, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] William H. Swanson

Hi. Swanson is not Sprint, so we can't have an infobox for Sprint on the Raytheon exec's page. It's about him, not Sprint. Thanks. -- Perspective 21:10, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AT&T Page Split

Let me start by saying that I am not opposed to splitting the page, in fact, I am he one who did. But there is a problem: When I tried to move the page, i tried to move it to the name AT&T Inc., with the period. For some reason, the system would not let me, so I had to move it to AT&T Inc, no period. But then, you came, and, becuase it let you use the period (I don't know if you mved a page or what to make room) and you renamed it AT&T Inc. I don't know why, but now there is a problem with the AT&T Inc. talk page, and it seems to be because of that damn period. I wanted to let you know, because I can't figure out how to fix it, its really confusing. If you understood my message, you can figure out how to fix it.

Also, keep the Pre-2005 AT&T page name the same. I realize that the new and old AT&Ts both had slightly differnet names (Inc. and Corp.) but harldly anyone else does. This will confuse them. Keep it clear and simple, and keep the Pre-2005 name. aido2002 20:26, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Good idea. Though, the biggest problem is the talk page. If you did not see already, when you click on the discuss link it sends you to the wrong page, and then another... But also, using cut/paste is a good idea, but you may have to do the same with the history pages, for many reasons. (I've never tried copying and pasting a history page, but I think it is safe to assume it will work.) aido2002 23:37, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SBC Communications/ SBC (1984-2005)

First of all, the SBC page should be SBC (1984-2005), not SBC Communications,because while there was no other SBC, it should be written almost like an obituary: tell when this company started, when it ended. So, please do not move the SBC page again. But regardless of the title, from now on, please do not use copy/paste to move pages, use the "move" button at the top. This moves both the talk and the article, and still gives credit to the creator in the history. Thanks, aido2002 19:28, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aido2002's RfA

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Aido2002

Hello. Please vote for me in my Request for Adminship! Thanks, aido2002 20:19, 5 June 2006 (UTC) .


[edit] WikiProject:Telecommunications

Hi. Since you have made many edits to AT&T and helped create the spinoff articles (AT&T Corp, SBC Comm.) I thought you might want to join the WikiProject I'm starting, which focuses on telecommunications. WP:Tel is a shrotcut link. Just wanted to let you know, hope you join! aido2002 23:51, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TV Affiliates by state

Thanks for creating these, but just a reminder, these go left to right by channel number. --CFIF (talk to me) 14:19, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New England Telephone

Check the Talk: New England Telephone page when you get a chance - I've made a suggestion about how to handle past/current names. - DavidWBrooks 12:55, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] KYTV (TV) is utter crap

Look I work in the industry and there is no such thing as a (TV) suffix, however there is a -TV suffix. I can't tell you where I work, but you are wrong. TV Newser 19:06, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{Barker's Beauties}}

I went to that template page, and I thank you for that because I requested it after you created it and realize that it's already there. However, that page needs a lot of work because I can't do it alone and there were too many former models in the past, including well-known ones that started their modeling careers in the 1970s. Go to Barker's Beauties, {{The Price is Right}} and {{The Price is Right worldwide}}, take a look at their current versions, and then click "edit the page" in each pag; and then realize how much work it needs. Also, I added {{categorize}} because it needs one or more categories. --Gh87 05:11, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

EDIT: I made some edits, but they're minor. So no worries. --Gh87 17:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Hello

Every AT&T Bell Telephone related pages has a ton of edits by you and me (x570), if you have AIM, drop me a message at screenname QueensPlazaSouth if you see me online. X570 22:09, 25 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] BellSouth disestablishment

The company still technically exists, albeit as a sub-company of AT&T. I just wrote a check to them this week. They have indicated in local media here that the company will not cease to exist as a entity until later this year, once everything is done. As of present, and based on that, they are not defunct yet. --Mhking 23:55, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TV3 Winchester

TV3 Winchester is an ABC affiliate from Winchester, Virginia and is owned by Gray Television, currently is a rebroadcaster of WHSV, also an ABC affiliate.

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[edit] AT&T 1984 logo

I noticed you replaced Image:American Telephone & Telegraph Company logo (1984-1999).svg with Image:AT&T84.PNG on the American Telephone & Telegraph Company article, but you didn't provide an explanation. Generally, vector images (like SVG) are more practical for logos than bitmaps, like PNG. So could you explain why you'd prefer to use the PNG? Thanks. Sean Hayford O'Leary 22:20, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Re:Cingular Article

True, but Cingular just became AT&T--unlike Sprint and Daimler-Benz, who changed quite a while ago. For until the transition is complete, or until public awareness of the switch increases, we should add the "Formerly Cingular" note. aido2002 22:54, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Once again, this would not be permanent, only public awareness of the change increases. aido2002 17:15, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
It hasn't happened before, so I guess we're creating a new precedent. aido2002 22:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
That is the point. Once people know about the change, we can remove the note. aido2002 03:59, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] US West

Please stop being disruptive by moving this page. Cacophony 17:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

If you would have bothered to read the move request on the talk page, you would have seen that the majority of users voted to keep the name US West. This is in accordance with Wikipedia:Naming conventions, which states: article naming should prefer to what the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize. Please consult the talk pages and/or the Manual of Style before moving any more pages. I have requested for an administrator to move the page back to US West. Cacophony 20:45, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I reverted your move of US West to U S WEST, consensus for your move request was against the move. If you do not agree with the move, create a new move request and go through the move process, don't just move it. Thanks.--Bobblehead 23:40, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] YELLOWPAGES.COM/Yellowpages.com

Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks): "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner encourages special treatment". —tregoweth (talk) 03:17, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Template:AT&T revert

I reverted you revert because a template with that info already exist and thus it was redundant to include in this template. If anything link to the main bell system article and they can navigate through the former bell system from there.(Ke5crz 16:53, 27 May 2007 (UTC))

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[edit] Conflict of Interest

Hi, KansasCity! I noticed that you are editing articles related to AT&T and Bell companies. If you do indeed in fact work for the company, your editing falls upon a conflict of interest, because the edits promote one viewpoint above the next. This can lead to the article not having a neutral point of view. If I am mistaken about your interests on Wikipedia, then I apologize. Miranda 16:24, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

No, I do not work for AT&T. My hobby, though, is involved with telecommunications history and telephones. I am sorry if my edits come off as if I am working for AT&T, but I actually keep myself updated on the telecom industry on a regular basis, especially the Bells, so I can share it with others, like the Wikipedia community. KansasCity 16:26, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
My apologies. Keep up the good work! Miranda 16:38, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] AT&T 'Founding' 'vandal'

Looks like this guy is going to argue anything we say. I think we might want to stop giving him his bully pulpit and simply correct any edits he does. Of course, that is because we are Wiki-elitists you know.--Donovan Ravenhull 15:55, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:CBS Delaware

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[edit] SBC

Hi. I still feel that there is a need for an SBC Communications article, primarily for clarity purposes. Yes, SBC has changed its name to AT&T Inc, but we have to put this in a full, historical context.

I was thinking of having a series on this - starting with AT&T 1885 - 1984, The break-up, the Baby Bells/ AT&T long lines (the primary unit from 1984-2005) and then the most recent article would be AT&T Inc. - each should be edited to flow well and maintain clarity. (New) AT&T Inc should lead with an overview of services without getting into the history details - the history should start with how SBC acquired AT&T (with a See Also, SBC Communications at the top), a paragraph on how this is significant (subsidiary eventually buying its parent) and then the diagram and so forth. The founding/expansion should be kept at the SBC Comm. article.

If you think about it, SBC was a successor of AT&T, and now AT&T is a successor of SBC, meaning AT&T is a direct descendant of AT&T. A quick redirect just doesn't do the trick.

I would appreciate your input on this.

--Jay(Talk) 22:18, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] AT&T history

Unlike our anon, I'm familiar with the different histories, but as long as we have links to an article about AT&T's BellSouth merger (which I grant was almost simultaneous), and links about the bell system, we might as well throw in the history of one of SBC's largest acquisitions. I would not be opposed to including histories on GTE and Bell South for the same reason. Cool Hand Luke 04:40, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

And actually, just specifying the dates is misleading because a user might mistakenly believe that it's just the history up until 2005, when in fact it's totally different. On second thought, maybe we should just indicate which companies are now part of Texas AT&T in the "see also" section. Sorry, you're right. Cool Hand Luke 04:45, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
I already agree with you. See above. The history links don't belong on the TX AT&T page; it's confusing. I just think that this is more than an ordinary case of "See also" where they should be redundantly marked as being acquired. Some people do have the perspective that they're continuous entities, so the acquisitions deserve a special spot, and hopefully this will seem intuitive enough that our anon and any other editors in the future won't try to add history as if it were a mega article. Cool Hand Luke 04:56, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
I know about GTE's independence, I meant to say PacTel, sorry. Cool Hand Luke 04:48, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DaimlerChrysler

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[edit] Qwest Corporation

OK, after I reverted the page again, just for the hell of it, I checked to see, if once again, there were seperate pages for Pacific Northwest Bell and Northwestern Bell, as, once upon a time there was seperate paged for those two companies, and Mountain Bell. Then they were consolidated into the Qwest Corp page, and I figured, "well I guess that makes sense, since they've been merged into a single entity". Now they're split again, except the Mountain Bell section, which, with the current structure, implies that Qwest Corp IS Mountain Bell, which the other two companies have been merged in to. Is this a fact? I honestly don't know. If nothing else, there should be wiki-links to the other two pages. 24.185.31.111 02:41, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Infobox defunct company

Then shouldn't it also have a Former Location" instead of Location, and so on? Might as well be consistent. — Wackymacs (talk) 06:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Qwest Corporation

I'm not debating the procedural move to combine the three companies but the current day Qwest Corporation is a sum of the total. Mt. Bell is no more or no less important than the other two in the present day operation. I think your point is clear in the article how it evolved to what it is now. Surely it can be refined but the article is much more useful with the full picture. Jakiah (talk) 05:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Verizon Communications. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. ~Amatulić (talk) 01:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

This user has engaged the edit war with myself and several other users (Speer320, Dmol, Kuru, Elipongo). It is clear that we have grown quite annoyed with the disruption this IP user has been causing with the Verizon Communications, AT&T, Bell System, and American Telephone & Telegraph articles. The Verizon article has been protected, and this should also be a consideration for the aforementioned articles. Anything that I have tried to say on the talk page in regards to a compromise has been shot down with rude, personal attacks and accusations that there is some agenda to "keep the SBC name alive". KansasCity (talk) 04:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)