Talk:Kangaroo court

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[edit] Citations sought for alleged kangaroo courts

I have commented out the following:

Examples of alleged kangaroo courts amounting to 'judicial lynching' include the Kansas evolution hearings and the Romanian military court which sentenced Nicolae Ceauşescu to death.{{fact}}<!--citation required for example, not whether they are verifiable court cases but whether any reputable source has referred to the case as a kangaroo court-->
<!--Besides the above-mentioned 'lynching logic' is to the disadvantage of the suspect, the term kangaroo court can also apply in the opposite direction, when the charge is not given a fair chance, as allegedly happened when a US military court cleared Christopher Van Goethem from his negligent homicide indictment for the murder of the Romanian singer Teo Peter.{ Commented out this assertion - citation required for it to be reincluded. Citation required, not whether it is a verifiable court case, or whether there was a miscarriage of justice, but whether any reputable source has referred to the conduct of the case as a kangaroo court - none of the four sources previously provided used that form of words, in which case reference to the Van Goethem case does not belong here-->

The absence of citations since requested over a month ago means that these assertions of alleged kangaroo trials cannot be assured to meet the policies of Verifiability and No original research--A Y Arktos\talk 00:28, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

How about looking obvious places, perhaps for example kansas evolution hearings? As for the others, this place can get verification-happy instead of using common sense. — Dunc|☺ 21:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I fail to see that the vandalism accusation in User:Duncharris's edit is merited when I had raised the issue here and he had not discussed on talk page before making the edit with inappropriate commentary thereby violating WP:NPA. Furthermore, requesting of citations does not mean the requesting editor has to go searching for them - read Wikipedia:Citing sources which states: "This means that any material that is challenged and has no source may be removed by any editor." I had allowed plenty of time for citation of sources. The cite given at the end of the second para for the article on the Kansas evolution hearings does not mention the word "kangaroo". I am not going to search the other sources. I suggest the labelling may well be a POV edit by a wikipedian until citation proved otherwise. I am not interested in editing the hearings article and hence have not asked for citations there but it applies also.--A Y Arktos\talk 21:22, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
This must be deliberate trolling. Are you seriously saying that you're too stupid or lazy to go look at Kansas evolution hearings? — Dunc|☺ 21:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

No I am not trolling, and I find the suggestion offensive. You are being uncivil and too lazy to even read my comment properly. You have also failed to note that I raised the matter over 1 month ago with no response. I have, as stated above, looked at the hearings article; I also looked at the first citation provided. It did not mention kangaroo courts even though it is a citation against a paragraph with a kangaroo court assertion - all other refs were at the end of the article and not clearly labelled as suggesting "kangaroo court" (nor need they be). I think the reference to kangaroo courts in the Kansas hearings article is compromised but I am not going to go there - not my country, any contribution I would make would be limited. WP:Cite does not require me to look for references, it requires any editor who wants to keep the assertion in there to find a ref. Not a matter of being verification happy, but seeking verification in this instance seems to me appropriate.--A Y Arktos\talk 21:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Thank you to JoshuaZ for the citation. I note in passing Dunchariss's highly inappropriate use of the rollback button, behaviour also commented also by another editor on his talk page. His comments here do not justify the use of the roll back.--A Y Arktos\talk 21:55, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Collective Noun

In Australia here we say a troop of kangaroos, not a court of kangaroos. Kransky 12:45, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nuremburg trials under "Mock Justice"

I removed the following text (bolded portion) from the article, seeing as it is a highly emotionally and politically charged statement made with no citation, as well as being far too vague. —Clement Cherlin 12:15, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Two other example are Roland Freisler's "processes" against the enemies of the National-Socialist regime, and the Nuremburg trials convicting the enemies of Liberal democracy.

[edit] Vandalism in the Mock Justice section

I'm not particularly familiar with the wiki system. Someone vandalized the article under the header "Mock Justice" - I can't tell if there originally was a section with that name, or if it was added by the vandal. It'd be helpful if someone would restore the article. 74.75.233.150 (talk) 02:57, 9 March 2008 (UTC)