Talk:Kangaroo Island

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1 Botched edit
2 Tourism
3 Gallery
4 Sea Transport
5 Lifestyle
6 Winery paragraph
7 infobox
8 American River
9 When did the Pennesshaw-Cap Jervis service begin?
10 Ligurian Honey Farms

[edit] Botched edit

Sorry Diceman, it was an edit gone wrong. I've been having issues with my connection lately, and before I had time to fix the fault, I lost it. --Cyberjunkie 05:58, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I thought something had gone haywire, I'm glad it wasn't you. :) Diceman 17:13, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tourism

I deleted this section because 1) Wikipedia is not a travel agency - most of the time :-) 2) almost every informations in the Tourism section is included in the Wildlife section, and then don't need its own paragraph. --Sam67fr 13:27, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I re-added parts that I considered encyclopedic. Some content would be better written in prose and should be swapped and moved to other parts of the article but i dont have time right now. ...maelgwn talk 09:45, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gallery

Diceman (talk · contribs) recently moved some of the pictures to a gallery. I don't really like galleries and think that pictures on the side make an article easier to read and hold the readers attention more than the images at the bottom. IMHO I think they we should move them back :: maelgwn :: talk 01:53, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Both arguments have merit. I think in its current form, the article appears neater with the "tourist" style shots in a gallery. With the current size of the article, that number of images tends to overtake and distract, so I think I marginally prefer the gallery at this stage. Murtoa 22:30, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sea Transport

It's untrue that Seaway only sailed " in calm weather ".If you take calm weather as meaning seas say less than a metre,or even two metres, Seaway certainly did sail under these conditions.Browning ave 09:40, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I felt it was worth mentioning that SeaWay was unable to sail under the same conditions that SeaLink could, it would have been better to reword it to your satisfaction rather than delete it wholesale. - Diceman 14:54, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I've reworded to express its comparative performance with SeaLink. It would be ideal (but may be difficult) to get some third party confirmation of the reliability issue rather than the first-hand experience you allude to in the edit comment. Murtoa 12:44, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

It would have had something to do with the size of the boat and the movement of the cars on board. Also it had more distance to cover. Perhaps a boating expert could shed some light. - Diceman 15:11, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lifestyle

To my knowledge there are no recorded shark attacks on swimmers on the south coast.Browning ave 06:40, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Winery paragraph

There was a conflict of interest here, with a winemaker apparently writing about his own business (judging by the username of the contributor). So I've replaced it with a more general sentence about winemaking on the island. (p.s. since he used his own name, I don't think there's anything underhanded going on, just perhaps a misunderstanding of how WP works). Peter Ballard 12:22, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] infobox

Kangaroo Island
Map of Kangaroo Island
Geography

Location	South Australia
Coordinates	35°50′S, 137°20′E
Area	4 405 km²
Administration
Australia
LGA	Kangaroo Island Council
Largest city	largest city (population)
Demographics
Population	4 400 (as of 2001)

So here is my draft of an infobox. Infobox_Islands gives an example of how it is used. I dont like the width of the second map - so maybe we should change the infobox a little to allow the width to be changed - or just subst it on KI page? It needs more details still :: maelgwn :: talk 03:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for drafting it. Have to say it looks a bit bulky and unwieldy; dare I say it, but this particular infobox template doesn't add a lot more critical info than what we've already got there. Although I recognise that it assists in the grading of the article. Suggest that if it is proceeded with, the width is cut back. Might be worth some thought about the other parameters at the bottom of the box. The "total islands" field is redundant - the "Island" in "Kangaroo Island" is somewhat self-explanatory! Murtoa 10:22, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I think that the infobox is perfectly satisfactory as it is. I can see (and appreciate) that you'd like to tweak it before instituting it, but surely you could do this while it is there? The infobox as is is preferable to what is currently on the Kangaroo Island article. The images themselves - the maps; these are what I'd think need the most work. I can't promise I'll do that, but I could. - The Chairman 13:30, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] American River

I deleted reference to the majority of the River's population living outside of the township. Unlike Parndana, which is a proclaimed Govt. township, and quite small in area, the township of American River is spread over a relatively large area. It encompasses the older part of the town, centred around the hall and post office, the coastal area towards the oval, and the areas developed in the 1970's above the original township.Browning ave 11:04, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] When did the Pennesshaw-Cap Jervis service begin?

The article says 1994 but that is definitely wrong because I rode it in 1993. Also in 1985 a student who was staying with us took a day trip to KI. I always thought he went by bus + ferry but maybe he flew. Peter Ballard 03:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

The Malaysian firm, MBF, acquired the ferry Philanderer 3 in 1989 from Peter March, who had been operating this particular ferry for most of the 1980's. Upon acquisition from Peter March, MBF traded under the name Kangaroo Island Sealink. In 1996, a consortium of staff members and KI residents acquired the company from MBF. Hence, the present Company has traded since 1996, but the Sealink name has been in existence since 1989.Browning ave 06:08, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ligurian Honey Farms

Whilst the ligurian bee and honey products are important to Kangaroo Island, Ligurian Honey Farms would be considered a generic description and as such, not a particular place of interest.Browning ave (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 06:41, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

How many are there on KI? Murtoa (talk) 07:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

about 30 farms in 2006 http://www.abc.net.au/landline/content/2006/s1651920.htm I understand it might not be a place but there is certainly a fair amount of promotion - Clifford's leading the Google charge but I don't think I would want to promote one over the category --Matilda ^talk 07:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks - in which case I think leave it out of the tourist bit as the activity is currently covered under "Population and Economy" (and that section could now include some of the content you've dug out) Murtoa (talk) 08:19, 4 June 2008 (UTC)