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[edit] Kambojas
Satbir, by making most of this article discuss the Kambojas, you are in effect violating WP:CFORK and treating the scope of this article as identical with that of Kambojas. If that is your intention, please state it clearly, and we can consider merging them. As it stands, this article is about the modern group, as opposed to the Kambojas article, which is about the Mauryan to medieval group. Please try to respect clear separation of article scopes: Category:Kambojas is ample illustration of what happens when people fail to do that. dab (𒁳) 10:00, 17 December 2 (UTC)
[edit] Which article has the following information?
Dab, the following is relevant information on Modern Kamboj which you are deleting it again and gain. Can you let us know which of the other Kamboj articles has this information? Why are you deleting this information? Does the Kambojas which you say, covers upto mediaval period, contain this information? Obviously not. Hence it belongs here and therefore I'm restoring it.
[edit] Kamboj/Kamboh in Modern Times
The population of the modern people who still call themselves Kamboj (or prikritic Kamboh, or Kamoz) or Kambhoj is estimated to be around 1.5 million and the rest of their population, over the time, submerged with other occupationalized castes/groups of the Indian subcontinent.
The Kambojs, by tradition, are divided into 52 and 84 clans. 52 line is stated to be descendants of Cadet branch and 84 from the elder Branch. This is claimed as referring to the young and elder military divisions under which they had fought the Bharata War. Numerous of their clan names overlap with other Kshatriyas and the Rajput castes of the north-west India, thereby suggesting that some of the Kshatriya/Rajput clans of north-west must have descended from the Ancient Kambojas.[1]
The Kambojs/Kambohs practiced weapon-worship in the past but the practice is now going out of vogue.[2]
[edit] Diaspora
The Kamboj or Kamboh living in upper India (Greater Punjab) are identified as the modern representatives of the ancient Kambojas. They are found as Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims, Buddhists and the Jains. Kambojs are known as adventurous and enterprising people. Therefore, as a colonists, servicemen, and businessmen, they have also spread, after the partition, into various parts of India, including a belt of Haryana from Karnal to Yamunanagar, Delhi, Uttar Pradesh, Ganganagar in Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh. There is also minuscule Kambhoj (jaina) community living since olden times near Nanded in Maharashtra, possibly the dwindling remnant of ancient Kambojas who had settled southwest India around the Christian era. (See links: [1] , [2] ) [3]. The community obviously seems to have mixed with the local communities over time and imbibed local cultures and languages.
The Tajiks, Siyahposh tribe (Kam/Kamoz, Katir/Kamtoz) of Nuristan, Yashkuns, Swatis, and the Yusufzais of Eastern Afghanistan and NWFP of Pakistan are said by various scholars to have descended from the ancient Kambojas.[4] According to Gazetteer of the Bombay Presidency, the Kambus (Kambohs/Kambojs) are an offshoot of the Afghan stock[5] link
[edit] Traditions
The Kambohs are stated to be the ancient inhabitants of Persia.[6]
The Sikh Kamboj of Kapurthala & Jullundur (Punjab) claim descent from Raja Karan. They also have a tradition that their ancestors came from Kashmir.[7]
Hindu Kambohs claim to be related to the Rajputs and to have come from Persia through southern Afghanistan.[8] The Chapter III of Gazetteer of Muzaffarnagar (UP) based on British India census reports of 1881/1891 etc note that about 1200 Muslim and Hindu Kamboj were living in Saharanpur who also claimed to be Rajputs. The Kamboj in Phillaur, District Jullundur, too claimed to be Suryavanshi Rajputs.[9] The Kambohs of Bijnor claim that they came from Trans-Indus country and Mr Purser accepts this as evidently true. Many of the Bijnor Kambohs also have a tradition that they are of the same ethnic stock as the Chattris or Khatris [10]. "In the Census of 1891, it is reported that the Kamboh, who lived around Mathura in the United Province (Uttar Pradesh), were originally Kshatriyas" [11] [12] [13]. The Rajasthan [district Gazetteers] asserts that the Kambohs are probably related to the Khatris [14]. The Hindu Kambohs from Karnal claim their origin from Garh-Gajni. Their Pandits still pronounce the following couplet at the phera during their marriage ceremony to give information about their original home: Garh Gajni nikaas, Lachhoti Ghaggar vaas (Trans: Originated from the fort of Gajni, and settled down in Ghaggar region (in Haryana or Punjab)). One Gajni or Ghazni is located in Afghanistan, but based on another tradition of the Karnal Kamboj, the eminent ethnographers like H. A. Rose and several other scholars have identified this Gajni in Kambay in Saurashtra (port of Vallabhi)[15]
Muslim Kambohs have a tradition that they descended from ancient Kai dynasty of Persia, to which the emperors Kaikaus, Kaikhusro, Kaikubad, Kai-lehrashab and Darius all belonged. On the last king of the dynasty having been dethroned, and expelled from the country, he wandered about some time with his family and dependents in the neighboring countries and finally settled in Punjab[16][17][18][19][20].[21][22][23][24][25][26]
[edit] Agriculturists
The modern Kamboj are still found living chiefly by agriculture, business and military service which were the chief professions followed by their Kamboja ancestors some 2500 years ago as powerfully attested by Arthashastra[27] and Brhat Samhita.[28] Numerous foreign and Indian writers have described the modern Kambojs/Kambohs as one of the finest class of agriculturists of India.[29] British colonial writers such as H. A. Rose and Denzil Charles J. Ibbetson note the Kamboj and Ahir agriculturists as the first rank husbandmen and they rate them above the Jatts.[30] They occupy exactly the same position in general farming as the Ramgarhias occupy in general industry.
The Kambojs have made great contributions in agriculture and military fields. The majority of Krishi Pandit awards in Rajasthan/India have been won by the Kamboj agriculturists[31] . Col Lal Singh Kamboj, a landlord from Uttar Pradesh, was the first Indian farmer to win the prestigious Padam Shri Award for progressive farming in 1968 from President of India. According to Dr M. S. Randhawa (Ex-Vice Chancellor, Punjab University), the Kamboj farmers have no equals in industry and tenacity.[32]
[edit] Physical Characteristics
Several foreign and indigenous observers have described the modern Kambojs as very industrious, stiff-necked, hardy, turbulent, skillful, provident and an enterprising race [33]. British commentator, William Crooke, observes that "The Kambohs are a hardy independent people and do not pay much deference to the leading castes" [34] [35]. Some commentators have described the Kambohs/Kambojs as ethnically more akin to the Afghans than to any of the "meek Hindu races" of the plains of India wherein they have now settled for generations.[36] [37] [38]
There is a medieval era Persian proverb (verse) current in the north-west to the effect that of the Afghans, the Kambohs (Kamboj) and the Kashmiris... all three are rogues.[39][40][41] Prof Blochman comments on this proverb: "This verse is very modern, for during the reigns of Akbar and Jehangir, it was certainly a distinction to belong to the Kamboh tribe" [42] [43] [44].
This old proverb seems to convey the historical fact that in the distant past, the Persians, the Afghans, the Kambojs/Kambohs and the Kasmiris lived more or less as neighbors and belonged to one inter-related racial group.
Against the above proverb and with reference to the Kambohs/Kambojs, other investigators and scholars like Sardar Gurdial Singh note that "during the reign of terror, it were the Kambojs/Kambohs only who were most trusted by the rich bankers for carrying their cash in the disguise of faqirs" [45]. British ethnographer H. A. Rose also states that: "As agents to the bankers, the Kambohs are much trusted" .[46][47] The honesty and integrity of the Kamboj/Kamboh community of Punjab is proverbial.[48]
The Kamboj integrity and honesty has also been specifically acknowledged in the Census Report of India, 1881 by Denzil Ibbetson.[49]
The Kambojs are also proverbial in Hindustan for "their sagacity and quickness of apprehension" (perception or understanding).[50][51]
The Kambojs have also been noted for their courage, tenacity and stamina for fighting. They (Kamboj) make excellent soldiers, being of very fine physique and possessing great courage.....They have always been noted for their cunning strategy, which now, being far less 'slim' than in former times, has developed into the permissible strategy of war.[52] [53].
Modern Kamboj are a generally tall, well-built, sharp featured, and generally very fair (gaura varna) race, with brown, sometimes reddish hair, brown or sometimes gray or blue or green eye color, and long sharp noses. "Pure blood Kamboj ladies are very beautiful and attractive".[54] Kamboj women have especially been noted for their beauty in ancient times too.[55][56][57][58][59] In ancient references, the Kambojas have been described as a very handsome race.[60] Ancient Kamboj princes have also been noted as tall like towers, exceedingly handsome and of gaura varna,[61] having faces illustrious like the full moon,[62] lotus eyed,[63] handsome like the lord-moon among the stars.[64] Even Ramayana calls the Kambojas ravisanibha i.e. with faces illustrious like the Sun.[65]
Satbir Singh (talk) 23:38, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] KAMBOJ/KAMBOH vs ARAIN ISSUE
[edit] CLASSICAL CASE OF RAJA KARAN--THE SO-CALLED ANCESTOR OF THE KAMBOJS
By the way, if one reads Glossary of Tribes and Castes of Punjab by H. A. Rose, (The Bible of these half-baked modern ethnic writers), one would be surprised to notice many many weird/foolish things through out. THe readers are encouraged to go through the following text, if they have enough stamina and patience. All the following information on Raja Karan vs various Castes of Punjab has been collected from the writings of these colonial British writers of pre-partition days, like the Purser, the Ibettson and the Rose etc. These guys had collected this useful and scientific(!) 1information from the Great Mirasis of Punjab and recorded it faithfully as a part of the real history of the Punjabi Castes/People! Amusingly enough, many naive/credulous readers (this includes Kamboj, Jatts, Rajputs alike), who lack the analytical reasoning of their own, are over-gladdened to read this kind of non-sense and thus overly-boast about their mythical ancestory with RAJA KARAN or some other mythical Raja.....which is nothing more than a fanciful creation of the over-ingratiating Punjab Mirasis and the Bhatts. These resourceful and flatterting Mirasis can quite easily create one Raja for every TOM, DICK and HARRY clan/caste to seek their favors! Such myths can not be and should not be treated as a factual history.
[edit] EXAMPLES FROM THE GLOSSARY OF TRIBES/PANJAB CASTES ETC
[1] KHAKH JATT CLAN is descendent of RAJA KARAN.!. In Bahawalpur, this Jat tribe gave the following genealogy: Raja Karan had a son named Kamdo who had a son named Pargo who had a son named Janjuhan who had a son named Khakh. Khakh had four sons: Babbar, Gabbar (Gaawar/Gabar/Gawar), Rabbar, and Jhaggar (Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North West Frontier Province, 1911, Vol II, H. A. Rose, p 31).
[2] BABAR JATT CLAN: Babbar is a Jatt clan in Dera Ghazi Khan- probably immigrants from the east or aboriginal- and in Bahawalpur. Babbar is said to be descedants of Raja Karan (See: Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North West Frontier Province, 1911, Vol II, H. A. Rose, p 31). (NOTE: The other clans related to the Babbar Jatt clan are Gabir or Gabbir or Gabhal(Gabhar), Jhaggar and Rabbar, who all may also be related to Raja Karan. Babbar, Gabbar, Rabbar and Jhaggar were four brothers, sons of Khakh, a direct descendant of Raja Karan.
[3] JANJUHAN (JANJUA?) JATT CLAN: Janjuhan is a Mohammadan Jatt as well as Arain clan name. Janjuhan is also a descent of Raja Karan (Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North West Frontier Province, 1911, Vol II, H. A. Rose, read pp 31 and 356 together).
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[4] BARIA/VARYA, BARAH, WARAH Rajput clans descended from RAJA KARAN. Name derived from Sanskritic: Varaha which means boar. This tribe is said to be in Jullunder to be Rajputs descendend from Raja Karan of the Mahabharat (See Website below; See also: Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North West Frontier Province, 1911, p 65, H. A. Rose")
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[5] DHILLON, GORAYE/GORAYA JATS are descendents of RAJA KARAN! God Sun/Suraj had an illustrious son called Karana (reference is obviously to Pandava’s elder brother, Karana/Kama ....a great charity giver) is stated by this tradition to have had four sons (1) Chattar Sain (2) Brik Sain (3) Loh sain (4) Chandor Sain….. The Dhillon/Goraya Jats are described to be the descendants of this Loh sain, the above said son of Raja Karan. (See: Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North West Frontier Province, 1911, Vol II, p 237/238, H. A. Rose etc). It can possibly be surmised that the Birk (Virk) Jatts have originated from Brikh Sain, the Chandor Jatts from the Chandor Sain and the Chatta/Chattha Jatts probably from Chattar sain (However, another account makes them descendants of one Chatta, the grand son of Prithvi Raj Chauhan)...the other three sons of Raja Karan. The story goes that in the line of Raja Karan, there was a Surajbansi Rajput Raja Lu (Loh) whose descendants are the Dhillons. Glossary of Tribes by H. A. Rose states that the Dhillons have "Baj" (Baja/Baju or Bajwe?), "Saj" (?) and "Sanda" Jatt sections. Since "Sanda" Jatts are a Branch of the Dhillon Jatts, hence Sanda clan may also be considered descendants of Raja Karan. The Goraya Jatts are said to a clan of the Dhillon tribe---both are said to have descended from Saroiah (Saroha/Siroha Rajput clan), hence along with the Goraya Jatts, Sarohas/Saroiah/Siroha Rajput clan can also be considered as related to/descended from Raja Karan through Lu. (See Glossary of Tribes, Vol II, 1911, pp 287, 303 and Vol III, 1911, p 386, H. A. Rose)
[6) NARU/NARMA/NARWA/NARWAH RAJPUT and JAT CLANS are descendants of RAJA KARAN! [Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North West Frontier Province, 1911, Vol III, pp 158-160, H. A. Rose).
[7] THATHU/THATHA/THATHIAL. At another place of ROSE's GLOSSARY (p 467/468), the Raja Karan is stated to have fathered only two sons (1) Thathu (2) Naru…….... and Glossary states...From Thathu originated Thathal Jats/Rajputs and from Naru originated Narwaha gotras Jats/Rajputs [Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North West Frontier Province, 1911, Vol III, 467/468, H. A. Rose).
[8] Varaitch clan, one of the largest clan of the Jats, claim descent from Raja Karan (Report on the Second Regular Settlement of the Gujrat District, Panjab, 1874, p xiv, W. G. Waterfield; Glossary of Tribes, Vol III, p 486, H. A. Rose).
[9] Punwar/Panwar caste of Rajputs claim decsent from RAJA KARAN son of Udadit who belonged to Dwapara yuga (Legends of Punjab, Part 2, 2003, p 182, Richard C. Temple)
[10] Wasir clan of the Rajputs also claim descent from mythicaly KARAN (Glossary of Tribes, Vol III, p 490, HJ. A. Rose).
[11] Kirars claim descent from one mythical RAJA KARAN said to belong to Jaipur.
[12] Kirs like the Kirars also claim descent from one mythical RAJA KARAN said to belong to Jaipur.
[13a] KHARRAL RAJPUTS/JATTS: At another place in the same classic books (by the Colonial British Writers), the KHARRAL Rajput/KHARRALl Jat clans are also stated to be the descendants of Raja Bhupa who, according to H. A. Rose, was a direct descendant of RAJA KARAN and was originally settled in Uch/Multan (See: Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North West Frontier Province, 1911, Vol II, p 496, H. A. Rose; Punjab Castes, 1974 Edition, p 129, Denzil Ibbetson).
[13b] HARRAL RAJPUTS: They are also said to have been descended from same ancestor as that of the Kharrals i.e from Bhupa Rai through another son. Thus Harral clan who was descendant of Raja Karan. They are also related to Punwar Rajputs and came to Uch from Jaisemer (See: Punjab Castes, 1971, p 78, Denzil Ibbetson).
[13c] Multan Gazetteer, 1902, P 138, also connects the KHARRALS with the HARRALS, BHUTTAS, LAKAS, LANGHAS and PUNWARS. Hence the Kharrals, Harrals, Langhas, Bhuttas/Bhuttos, Lakas and the Punwars can all be treated as blood cousins and, therefore, related to Raja Karan.
[14] H. A. Rose writes: "The Multan tradition discloses that the LANGHAHS (LAHNGAS) are PUNWARS and are allied to the KHARRALS, HARRALS, BHUTTAS, AND THE LAKS "( See: Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North West Frontier Province, 1911, Vol II, p 496, fn; See also: Multan Gazetteer, 1902, p 138). All these are the so-called Jatt/Rajput clans (though Langhas are also found among the Kambohs, and Bhuttas are predominantly Arains). Hence the Kharrals, Harrals, Langhas, Bhuttas/Bhuttos, Lakas and Punwars can all be treated as blood cousins and therefore, are related to Raja Karan by blood.
[15] The KATHIAS of Ravi/Chenab Punjab also claim to be descendants of RAJA KARAN (See: Denzil Ibbetson , Punjab Castes, p 131; Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North West Frontier Province, 1911, Vol II, p 482 fn, H. A. Rose).
[16] H. A. Rose as well as Denzil Ibbetson note that "The Kathias claim to be PUNWAR Rajputs" (See: Denzil Ibbetson , Punjab Castes, p 130, Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North West Frontier Province, 1911, Vol II, p 482, H. A. Rose). This makes the PUNWARS who are related to the KATHIAS also the descendants of celebrated Raja Karan.
[17] The Kathias have TWO MAIN divisions viz. (1) The KATHIAS proper and (2) the BAGHELAS. Since Kathias are said to have descended from Raja Karan, and since the BAGHELAS are a section of the Kathias, hence by corollary, the BAGHELA rajputs are also the descendants of the same Raja Karan.
[18] Further more, the BALWANA and the PAWAR are said to be other leading clans of the KATHIAS and hence as a consequence, are also the descendants of same Raja Karan (See: Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North West Frontier Province, 1911, Vol II, pp 48, H. A. Rose; Punjab Castes, 1974, p 131, Denzil Ibbetson).
In nutshell, the the KATHIAS/KATHIS, BAGHELAS, BALWANAS and PAWARS are all the descendants of same celebrated Raja Karan.
[19] RAJPUT SECTIONS of KATHIAWAR also claim to be descendants of the same RAJA KARAN.(See: Denzil Ibbetson , Punjab Castes, p 131; See also: Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North West Frontier Province, 1911, Vol II, p 483, H. A. Rose)
[20] What is more funny/interesting, the Kamboj tribe is said to have originated from the same legendary RAJA KARAN (of Mahabharata?). (See numerous refs: Glossary of Tribes & Castes by H. Rose p 443-445; Also read: "Kamboh" in Panjab Castes by Denzil Ibbetson , pp 149/150; REPORT ON THE REVISED LAND REVENUE SETTLEMENT OF THE MONTGOMERY DISTRICT IN ..., 1878, p 50, C. A. Roe and W. E. Purser; Gazetteer of the Montgomery District (Sahiwal), 1883-84, Edition 1990, p 68, Punjab (Pakistan), Punjab (Pakistan - Sahiwal District (Pakistan); The Tribes and Castes of the North-western Provinces and Oudh, 1896, p 206, William Crooke - Ethnology; Folklore of the Punjab, 1971, p 8, Sohindara Siṅgha Waṇajārā Bedī - Folklore; Bibliotheca Indica, 1949, p 388, Royal Asiatic Society of Bengal, Asiatick Society (Calcutta, India); Punjabi Musalmans, 1991, p 89, J. M. Wikeley - Ethnology; ʻAin-i-Akbari of Abul Fazl-i-ʻAllami , 1948, p 388, Abū al-Faz̤l ibn Mubārak, Jadunath Sarkar; The Historical Background of Pakistan and Its People, 1973, p 128; An Observation: Perspective of Pakistan, 1987, p 100, Ahmed Abdulla; Punjab, the Land of Beauty, Love, and Mysticism, 1992, p 211, Syed Abdul Quddus - Punjab (India); See also: Kamboj Itihaas, p 7, 1972, H. S. Thind). And the learned and very knowledgeable Mirasees of the Kambojs of Panjab also flatter the Kamboj population by stating that their ancestor, RAJA KARAN, was a great charity-giver and used to donate 50 ser (40 kg) of gold to the poors every day, before taking his breakfast!!!!!!!.
[21] The Kakezai caste claim origin from Afghans and alos cliam as descendents of Kakka, son of (RAJA) KARAN. (Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North West Frontier Province, 1911, Vol II, p 355, H. A. Rose)
[22] According to Punjab Gazetteer, the Arains Caste of Pakistan (which is numbering about 70 milliosn?? or?) are said to be descendants of /related to RAJA KARAN! This is because Rai Chajju (actually RAI JAJ of Mr W. E. PURSER, H. A. ROSE & WILLIAM CROOKE etc), the ancestor of most of the Arains, was a relative of RAJA KARAN as the very scholarly writers like Ahmed Abdulla or Syed Abdul Quddus declare (See: The Historical Background of Pakistan and Its People, 1973, p 128; An Observation: Perspective of Pakistan, 1987, p 100, Ahmed Abdulla; Punjab, the Land of Beauty, Love, and Mysticism, 1992, p 211, Syed Abdul Quddus - Punjab (India)).
[23] Bhutta (Bhutto) clan of the Arains of Jalandhar Tehsil stated that they were descendants of Raja Bhutta, fifth in descent from Raja Karan, and were settled originally in Uch (Refs: North Indian Notes and Queries, 1896, p 64; ˜The tribes and castes of the north-western provinces and Oudh in four..., 1999, p 206, William Crooke; North Indian Notes and Queries, 1896, p 64, Mythology, Hindu; Jalandhar Settlement Report, p 82, sqq ; Cf: ˜The œtribes and castes of the north-western provinces and Oudh…, 1999 edition, p 206, William Crooke; See also: North Indian Notes and Queries, 1896, p 64, Hindu Mythology; A Glossary of the Tribes & Castes of the Punjab & North-west Frontier Province, 1911, Vol II, p 15, H. A. Rose etc). The Buttas, along with the Harrals, Punwars, Lakas, Langhas/Lahnghas as seen above are also the sections of the Kharrals (Multan Gazetteer, 1902, p 138).
[24] The Bhuttas/Bhuttos (a clan of both the Jatts & the Rajputs) would similarily be the descendants of the legendary RAJA KARAN, since Bhutta/Bhutto is merely a clan name and is shared by Arains, Rajputs and the Jatts. Since clan names are always a fixed parameter whereas tribe or caste may change, hence the Bhuttas/Bhuttos found among the Arains , Rajputs and the Jatts come of the same original stock and hence all must be descendants of same Raja Karan.
[25] The Story does not end here!!!. One only needs to go through each & every page of these Bibles of the Punjab Castes written by these great British Gazetteers of 19th/20th c AD to fully learn as to how many more of the Panjab tribes/clans can be said to have descended from the (KAMBOJ) RAJA KARAN....Probably the list would be endless!!
BTW: If RAJA KARAN was indeed the ancestor of the Kamboh/Kamboj tribe (and also of the ARAINS, as these colonial era Bible books want us to believe, and which many modern half-baked scholars like Mr Ahmed Abdulla, Syed Abdul Quddus and their ilk also thoughtlessly continue to promote and repeat on every page, here and there), then, this RAJA KARAN, definitely can't be the Pandava brother RAJA KARNA who had fought in Mahabharata war. This is because the Kambojs/Kambohs, WHO ARE OTHERWISE SAID TO BE HIS SUPPOSED DESCENDANTS, were already existing in millions at the time of this KAURAVA/PANDAVA RAJA KARAN, and had participated in the Mahabharata war with full division (Akshauhin) army of the the wrathful warriors which besides the Kambojas, also included the Shakas, Yavans, Tukharas and the Khasass. And very interestingly, in the same Kurukshetra war, the legendary RAJA KARAN had also participated on behalf of the Kauravas.
See: Kurukshetra War and the Kambojas.
Furthermore, if this legendary RAJA KARAN was indeed a Kamboj/Kamboh, then how come so many non-Kamboj clans like the Jat/Rajput clans (DHILLON, GORAYA, THATHIAL, KHAKH, VARYA, BRAH, BARIA, WARAH, NARU, NARWAHA, KATHIS, KAKEZAI, KHARRALS, PAWARS, LAKS, HARRALS, THE RAJPUTS (OF SURASHTER/KATHIAWAD), THE BHUTTOS/BHUTTAS and the KATHIAS OF RAVI/CHENAB etc) could also be the descedants of the same (KAMBOJ) RAJA KARAN, unless these JATTS/RAJPUTS/KATHAS/BHUTTOS/KATHIS/KHARRALS/PUNWARS/BAGHELAS/BALWANAS/PAWARS etc along with the ARAINS, were ALL ORIGINALLY FROM the Kamboj/Kamboh race?. If this is accepted, (which has to be accepted if the colonial Pursers, Wilsons, Roses and Ibbetsons etc are to be believed), then all these DHILLON, GORAYA, THATHIAL, KHAKH, VARYA, BRAH, BARIA, WARAH, NARU, KHARRAL, HARRAL, BABBAR, LAK, PAWAR, JANJUHAN, NARWAHA, KATHIS, KAKEZAI, ALL RAJPUTS OF SURASHTER/KATHIAWAD, THE BHUTTOS/BHUTTAS, PUNWARS, BAGHLESA, BALWANAS, and, of course, the ARAINS must be accepted, without any hitch or hindrance, purely as a Kamboh/Kamboja breed-- the modern representatives of the famed ancient Kshatriyas of Mahabharata fame, known as the Kambojas, who are also said to be the forefathers of the modern Kamboj/Kamboh communty of Punjab/North-eastern Afghanistan. (DOES THIS MAKE SENSE TO THE NAIVE READERS WHO BELIEVE IN THE LEGENDARY RAJA KARAN??????).
The Kambojs/Gandhars are one of the earliest and very ancient known Indo=Iranic tribes of north-west (now Indian Punjab and Pakistan). The Jatts, Rajputs, Arains, Kharals, Khokhars, Awans etc are merely the caste names and are only a phenomenon which occured much later in time on the Indian soil. All these occupational (Caste) names must be assumed to have been derived/evolved from the diverse ethnics of the Kambojas, Sakas, Pahlavas, Yavanas, Paradas, Kushanas, Hunas, Gurjaras etc. Since all the above mentioned ancient tribes, (NOTE: A minuscule population of the Kamboj, Kathis and Gujjar tribes, are still maintaining their ancient Tribal Identity), have already completely lost their original tribal Identity and therefore, have shifted from the TRIBAL DOMAIN into the CASTE-DOMAIN, it logically follows therefore that the Jatts, the Arains, the Rajputs and numerous other Indo-Iranic castes of the modern north-west regions, must have all evolved/derived from the above referred to ancient tribes of the Kambojas, Kambojas, Pahlavas, Paradas, Yavanas, Risikas/Yuechis, Hunas, and Gurjaras of the antiquity etc. Of course, many of the above said tribes were allied/cognate tribes, as some ancient references reveal. There could be no other explaination possible.
See also Raja Karan: Raja Karan
[edit] MORAL OF THE STORY
One should not put too much confidence and trust on these PURSERS, IBETTSONS, ROSES AND THE LIKES....the British Designed Gazetteers of the nineteenth century. British Raj had its own mottos and Ajenda. These writers, sure enough, compiled and recorded more of the fictions, myths and nonsense as relayed to them by the Punajb Miraasis/Bhatts and are therefore, are more of MYTHICAL than historical information.
Unfortunately, it is a legacy of the same kind of the British colonial mentality that some of the modern political-writers like Ahmed Abdulla, Syed Abdul Qudduss etc till continue to stick to this unproved and outdated hypothesis of the Arain vs Kamboj connections.
Satbir Singh (talk) 03:18, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
