Talk:Kalalau Valley
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[edit] Issues with kalalau wikipedia sumary
In the Kalalalau summary, it states that terraces are being destroyed by invasive plants the DLNR planted to make it more suitable to tourism. This is very wrong, Kalalau valley was owned at one point by the Robinson family (owners of Niihau). The Robinsons planted trees in the valley to provide shade for their animals. Before they moved in, it was an open valley with enormous amounts of terracing. Many other invasive plants were introduced by squatters that moved in around the 1960's. Many of these plants can be found today from tomatoes to watermelon.
The DLNR has a presence on Na Pali due to the abuse that this coast has taken over the past 30+ years from squatters that have done massive amounts of damage and taken many native Hawaiian artifacts. The growing of Marijuana is also a big issue. Legalities aside, there have been cases of intimidation by marijuana growers on hikers that happened upon their fields. Evidence of these squatters can be seen from the ocean. Tree stands that have died because of over zealous use of camp fires. From the land the squatters leave their garbage all over the place, and their "homes" are little more than hovels that use live trees and defile the area. They have no concern for hygiene, with garbage and fecal matter left in the open.
The author of the Kalalau summary believes they are stewards, and yet they continue to perpetuate the belief that squatting in such a pristine area is a right. This is an area that should be left alone. The trash that is taken out is done so by the DLNR helicopters and a couple of the tour boat operators that have a legal permit to land there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.234.80.5 (talk • contribs) 03:14, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Recommendations for improvements
This article definitely needs help, focusing more on the author's complaints rather than the splendor, history and magnificence of the Kalalau Valley. If someone has the time to rewrite this article, all of the author's grievances could be compiled under a subheading or a side article regarding controversy over the DLNR and residents. Articles on the Kalalau Trail and Kalalau Beach are helpful. Also, the Hawaii Department of Land and Natural Resources provides accurate (although possibly one-sided) information on the valley. DLNR Website
72.234.10.190 04:18, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Recommendations for improvements
This article is in really bad shape. I agree with the original poster on the problems with this article and I think most locals will know right away that this article is a total POV, and a minority one at that. I don't see the POV banner- shouldn't it show on the article? Sadly the whole article really needs to be gutted and re-written. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.95.97.152 (talk) 08:34, 8 March 2008 (UTC)