Talk:Kalakat Illam

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HELLO,

I read that article about Kalakatt Illam. It is focusing on a different knowledge. In kalakatt Illam the Mandravadam is doing by traditional way. These articles will helps to know more about mandravadam and thandram. So this article is very useful for a new person.

Rahul

[edit] References

Copying from the Vfd Comments :

Please see if you can find references to your Illam in encylopaedias like Akhilavijnanakosam, Sarvavijnanakosam or Visvavijnanakosam, Aithihyamala, newspaper articles, or any book on Kerala heritage and add data from there. If Kalakat Illam has an article of its own in any one of these three encyclopaedias, that alone should be sufficient to make it eligible for wikipedia.

Can you please do something about the references ? Tintin 10:18, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Repeating the request : Can you please add *some* valid references ? Tintin 20:06, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

The references to this illam can be found in the following links: 1) http://www.theyyam.com/temples.htm -- Kalakattu Illam is situated near Purakkunnu and is about 25 Kms. from Payyanur...

2) http://www.india9.com/i9show/52340.htm -- Chandranellur Bhagavathi Temple lies at Kalakattu Illam near Purakkunnu...

3)http://www.namboothiri.com/articles/perinchelloor-graamam.htm -- The antiquity would link the Braahmanan settlement in Kerala in general, and...

[edit] Original Research

A number of things lead me to believe that this article is original research and therefore inappropriate for Wikipedia.

  • the continuing failure to provide sources;
  • the reference to stories, which together with the definition given for Aitheehyam which qualified the term stories, which indicates oral tradition (now deleted because it was never more that a poor dictionary entry);
  • the text on the originator's user page that indicates that he is a member of the family and therefore probably particualy exposed to oral tradition;
  • the statement in the original Afd debate that "its a piece of valuable information that might get extinct after couple of years, hence getting tailored to the pedia" which, to me implies that Wikipedia is expected to be the main or only source of this information (the theme of the original debate was essentially not notable and it stalemated because, whilst it was unverifiable, normal sources for testing notability might not apply in this regional context).

--David Woolley 20:23, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi David,

  • The information on this article is added as per the details available to the author. Hence it might take time to update the information.
  • I am not able to understand about the sources that you are asking for
  • Adding Pics will add to its ingenuity
  • Please let me know clearly what clean up do we require to do so that the message on the top of the article can be removed

--Shyam

Myashu/Shyam - First, two of the three reference links at the bottom of the page do not work, the third link only partial mentions Kalakat once. This does not provide enough reference to show that the text is not original research or original thought, and does not satisfy Wikipedia's verifiability requirements. You mention that the article is based on "details available to the author." Unless you are the author please cite your sources.

The type of sources being asked for are Reliable Sources (please click the link to learn more). In terms of cleanup and getting the Cleanup tag removed it should satisfy Wikipedia's Manual of Style. With that said I believe the primary concern is getting the article cited and referenced, otherwise it may again be a subject for an Article for deletion -Barkeep 13:27, 27 June 2007 (UTC)