Talk:Kahr Arms

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[edit] Rewrite

Maybe it's just me, but I feel that the following passage should be rewritten or maybe even removed.

Kahr was at the forefront at offering small well-made pistols that fire eight or fewer relatively large 9mm and .40-caliber bullets. Their single-stack magazines enable a slender compact pistol that has proved popular with the buying public.

There is some truth to this but, at least to me, it reads a bit like it was taken from a marketing brochure. Glock, for instance, far surpasses Kahr in terms of popularity and sales and offers comparable firearms (ie. the G36 and possibly some of their other subcompacts). The same can probably be said of other, smaller caliber semi-autos and short-barrel revolvers. --Seed 2.0 21:20, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kahr is not Glock

Glock firearms are not quite comparable to Kahr. Nearly all of Kahr's products were specifically designed for concealed-carry work (with the notable exception of the Auto-Ordanance Tommy Guns and 1911 .45ACP pistols,) while Glock's products had their genesis in a request by the Austrian government for a sidearm for their military forces. All of Glock's firearms (perhaps with the exception of the G21SF, which just came out recently, and of which I am unfamiliar,) have a double-stack magazine, which significantly increases the width of the Glock versus the single-stack magazine Kahr. The smallest Glock subcompacts (26, 27, 28, 33,) are all 6.29" long, while the smallest Kahrs (MK9, MK40, PM9, PM40) are 5.3" (9mm) and 5.35" (.40SW) long. The forthcoming Kahr PM45 carries a .45ACP round in a 5.67" long package. As a result, however, the ammunition capacity is reduced in the Kahrs (Glock magazine capacity is across-the-board higher than the Kahrs. (See kahr.com and glock.com for references.) In my opinion, people desiring to trade off ammunition capacity at the expense of size will gravitate toward the Glocks; people desiring concealability with a large caliber will gravitate toward Kahr. Kahr's real competitors, IMHO, are gunmakers like Kel-tec and North American Arms, who also produce small, highly concealable firearms.

Further, not all Kahrs are polymer-framed as all Glocks are. The "K" series uses a stainless steel frame.

What Kahr HAS done, and (I believe) was one of the first to do, was offer large-caliber (9mm, .40, .45) firearms in a small, highly concealable package.

For these reasons, I feel that the statement referenced by the poster above should be retained. 209.195.164.34 20:16, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Need info on specific products

Either additional information should be included on this page concerning the Kahr K, E, MK, CW, P, and PM series handguns (in 9mm, .40SW and .45ACP), or else this information should be added in handgun-specific articles.