User talk:Kablammo/Archive 1

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Good luck, have fun, and be bold! SchuminWeb (Talk) 22:48, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Use of article talk pages

Hi and welcome! I notice on passenger ship you added some in-depth material to the talk page and referred to it from the article. Typically however we use the talk page for arguing^Wdiscussion about the article, with editors as the expected audience, and not for additional reader-suitable material that expands on the article content. In this case your interesting bit about displacement is perfectly appropriate to include in the article; if the article were 5,000 words it might be considered to be getting long, but it's quite a ways from there still! Stan 12:37, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Request

Since you got talent on writing, can you fix up the ocean liner article, right now it sucked. I put up a very rough article on discussion. All they learned from current article is titanic sunked, Mauritania is luxuirous...now what happend to Britannia, Brunell?

Thank you-- I reply on Ocean Liner discussion page. Kablammo 10:19, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Minnesota

Thank you for the your contribs to Minnesota! Currently Wikipedia:WikiProject Minnesota is working on getting the article to Featured article status, so your continued help would be apprecated! -03:46, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Culture

Go ahead! Sounds like a good idea. Feel free to do whatever you want to stuff I write. You are an excellent copy-writer so I feel the matieral is in good hands with you. THe section I added was almost word for word from the Minneapolis-st.paul article so its not even really "mine". Also do you have any comments about the message I left at Talk:Minnesota? This one: "Re: "Make "Education" section a subsection"... How about "Social issues" with Education, Health, Crime, and Social Welfare under it? -Ravedave 18:58, 24 July 2006 (UTC)" -Ravedave 20:30, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Block and unblock

I'm in IRC seeing if I can get you help. This is pretty rediculous. -Ravedave 01:02, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

You are unblocked. -Ravedave 01:11, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Unblocked. I'm guessing this is a major case of misclicking by Tony. If not, then he will revert me. --Golbez 01:09, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. Kablammo 01:12, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I can't apologise enough. I meant to block the guy who was plaguing Walabio and got the wrong edit in my history list. I tried to undo your autoblock and the username block but it looks as if Golbez beat me to it. --Tony Sidaway 01:12, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks to you all. No harm was intended, and therefore no hard feelings. Our work is about the work, and not about us. Kablammo 01:15, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

History of MN help

You seem to be pretty good at summarizing. Could you summarize History of Minnesota for the head of the article and inclusion in Minnesota? Thanks! -Ravedave 04:55, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Here's a copy of the message I sent to Ravedave:
As far as moving my section to History of Minnesota goes, that's fine. The previous article in that space needed a lot of work. (Expanding it will probably end up being my next project, I think.) My only real concern is that the main Minnesota article should have a decent summary of the history of Minnesota that summarizes the main topics of what made the state what it is now. If possible, it should also have the citations from the new subarticle, just so people know that the article has citations and isn't made up. I think Kablammo should be able to do that effectively, though -- from what I've seen, he's a good writer. --Elkman - (Elkspeak) 12:49, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
I will have a go at it-- I hope w/i next week. Kablammo 23:04, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Ships

Hey! Maybe you can guide me on this. I just added information for MS Marco Polo and under the "History" section there is a glitch where the [edit] option lays on top of part of the word "cruising". I'm not sure how to realign it, or if I should just wait for a "bot" to come along and do it. I don't know if you've encountered anything like this before. Thanks. --OneCyclone 21:50, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Duluth

Are you being sarcastic? That's what I said on the talk page.--Daveswagon 22:00, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Alright, I trimmed took out the college links (those should be linked to from the pages devoted solely to them), and I removed some broken links as well. Maybe I'll try and thin it out more.--Daveswagon 23:30, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I fixed the reference problem. What you needed to do was add <div class="references-small"> <references /> </div> where you wanted the references to be listed (in the references section). I divided the section into "Cited references" and "General references," but some of the ones in the general section should be converted to cited ones (such as the story about the lyching).

I find that using this website citation template: {{cite web|url= |title= |accessdate= |accessmonthday= |accessyear= |author= |last= |first= |authorlink= |coauthors= |date= |year= |month= |format= |work= |publisher= |pages= |language= |archiveurl= |archivedate=}} makes creating consistant citations much easier. Just place it where you want the citation number to appear and fill it in (here's the full intructions on that). Just make sure to surround the template with <ref></ref>.

As for the city template, that does not need to be followed to the letter. I believe it's just a general guideline so that every city does not have the same sections in different orders and with different names. Adding extra sections like transportation is no problem and should not need to be included under another section. As the template says, misc sections are usually added towards the bottom. You can try looking to major articles like New York City to see how they did things.

Thanks for taking the time to bring that article into line, I posted that same message on many MN city pages and I'm not aware that anyone else has taken it into consideration.--Daveswagon 23:38, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Minnesota tbd

Good list, I'll try and think up things to add. I was sorta going for the coordinator thing so I accept :). I really appreciate the work you have done to the article you are much better at writing copy than I am. I seem to be better at organizing and mechanical copy editing, adding refs etc. The refs in the article should mostly be up to date since I added most of them when the article went up for GA status. -Ravedave 01:21, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Churchill

You say one thing and do another. I placed the text regarding Churchill's involvement in area bombing, and you simply reverted me like some vandal. Wallie 21:49, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Wallie, your changes were not NPOV; I took them out, promptly informed you, and invited you to discuss them on the talk page. You are doing that now and I will conduct further discussions there. Kablammo 21:55, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
I get the feeling that if I put anything up on the talk page critical of Churchill, it will be reverted. Wallie 22:21, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
OK. I can see you are quite reasonable. I think that the area bombing aspect should be mentioned. I will have to do some more research. However, the new version may be bigger. Wallie 23:30, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Less not more?

I have been checking out WP:FAC lately and I think that Minnesota might need to be trimmed. As much as we might like to cover all of the cool stuff in this state it's just not going to happen, this article will just get longer and longer and longer. So I guess we need to decide on what to cut and work into other sections. Thoughts? -03:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

The article is about the same length now as it was when I first became involved. Where I have edited others' work I have tried to keep rather than delete substance but it may be time to take stuff out. Suggestions for condensing:
Intro-- I can take out a paragraph of materials repeated in article.
Demographics, take out most of the textual laundry list of minorities.
Industry and commerce-- I still have to rewrite and (I hope) shorten a bit.
Energy use-- we may not need all of this.
Entertainment-- this can be compressed to one or two paragraphs. In focuses way to much on recent developments.
Popular culture can be trimmed some.
Courts-- too long.
Politics-- a little too much trivia and recent developments.

I think all of these changes however will only free up room for some of the lacunae still to be filled (discussed on article talk page). Kablammo 15:36, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Leave the intro, its great. I started thinking, maybe we should make "blah in minnesota" for everything. Then we can have nice summary paragrpahs on the minnesota article and won't get cruft from random people inserted into the article. For now I am working over at Featured Article Cantidates for ideas on what FA's really look like. Also I plan on reviwing some of the cities more and trying to think up a comprehensive game plan. This is hard there is just ssooooo much to cover, but it also needs to be fun to read, so excuse my uncertanty in which direction we should go. -Ravedave (help name my baby) 16:13, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

footnotes

I would guess it depends on the sentances. I usually move them all to end for readability. They tend to break up the sentance and make it hard to read. (see below). Since oyu can provide as much text as you want with the ref template you could always specify which fact it applies to.

The ref tag should be placed directly after most punctuation marks,[3] without an intervening space.[4] blah blah blah,[5] blah blah blah,[6] finally blah[7]. zippediy doodah[5], zippedy aye[6], blah blah blah[8]

-Ravedave (help name my baby) 00:24, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

US Prewar CVs

USS LEXINGTON

moved to Talk:Lexington_class_aircraft_carrier#USS_Lexington

On roads, again

Hello. Could you please have a look at this? Once again, we are being told "Minnesota State Highway X" is not a common name, after it was settled in a previous round that it is. Jonathunder 20:02, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Miller-Urey experiment

I noticed you reverted 158.123.160.2 (talk • contribs • count • logs • page moves • block log • email) quite a few times on the above article, but didn't leave any vandalism warnings on their page. Perhaps next time you would consider leaving warnings? It's a bit hard to stop 'em if they don't know what they're doing is wrong :) Here is a list of the various templates you can leave on the talkpage to warn them. Remember to substitute the templates when using them.

Cheers, — riana_dzasta wreak havoc-damage report 02:47, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

No worries. Admins are usually reluctant to block if there are no warnings on a user's page, so it's best to go through the set of templates (since in this case the IP might have benefited from a soft block). Cheers for not taking that as a disciplinary message or anything like that :) You're doing a good job. See ya 'round, — riana_dzasta wreak havoc|damage report 12:34, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Minnesota

Thanks for starting to edit MN again. I got burned out on the article and I think others did too. I decided to just go for FA, if it's not good enough we can fix it on the way. Are you coming to the Minnesota meetup on October 29th? Wikipedia_talk:Meetup/Minneapolis? -Ravedave (help name my baby) 00:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Reminder: Meetup October 29, one o'clock, Mall of America. Jonathunder 20:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Winston Churchill

I see he went right ahead and posted the allegation a second time after I told him to make his arguments on the talk page. Thanks for following up on it. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 02:30, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Your changes to the CVU article are as pointless as what you deleted.

I was disappointed in the changes that you made to the CVU wiki article. A cursory glance at the article shows that it doesn't have much or any substantial information about CVUHS. If you're going to make arm chair "improvements" to it you might as well delete the entire thing except the link to www.cvuhs.org. Instead you went ahead and self righteously deleted the only thing that made the whole page worth reading. I don't know why, you probably thought you were doing a service to wikipedia. It must be a really dull world where they don't have humor = (. I'm not looking to start an "edit war" with you over this, so I'm asking you to voluntarily return the CVU article to it's version before you changed it. Thanks!

User Sir Smith, who posted the foregoing unsigned comment, must not have looked too closely at the edit history before posting it. Here is the reply I put on User talk:Sir Smith
I received your message. (I see you left the same message to two other editors.)
I am confused. I have reverted a fair number of vandalized articles today. To what article are you referring? If it is to Champlain Valley Union High School, please check the edit histories to see exactly what changes I reverted.[[1]];[[2]] I doubt that the school song has anything to do with eating babies, or raping, pillaging, or burning. If I am in error on this, please provide attribution. If you have confused me with others, perhaps the message should have been left only on their page and not on mine. If you think you have left it on mine in error, maybe you would like to take it off mine. Thank you. Kablammo 22:15, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Kablammo 15:57, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Looking for Interviewees

Hello,

I am a freelance writer working on an article about the subculture of people who use Wikipedia the way the rest of us use MySpace. So I’m looking to interview several Wikipedia “addicts” as well as people who, while they don’t consider themselves addicted, do spend a good amount of time on the site editing articles, patrolling for errors, seeking out false articles, fighting for changes they made to be kept in, and otherwise contributing to the site. If you are interested please email me at brianrhodges@gmail.com.

This offer is open to anybody else reading this, not just this particular user. But please, don’t come to me with if you’re hoping I’ll be exposing conspiracies or censorship issues amongst the wikipedia higher-ups. That’s not really what this article is about.

Thanks,

Brian68.39.158.205 22:58, 3 November 2006 (UTC)