Talk:Kālī

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Contents 1 Mythology? 2 Kali in the west? 3 Kali in the west picture 4 kali and darkness 5 GA Review 5.1 Quick Fail Criteria 5.2 GA Criteria 5.3 Recommendations needed to pass 5.4 Further recommendations

[edit] Mythology?

As always, a constant debate on Wikipedia.I ask, why does Kali have her stories under "mythology," but Jesus of Nazareth has "life, stories, and teachings?"--ॐJesucristo301 22:12, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't know. I guess it's just easier for people to believe in carpenter with a lot of common sense than to believe in a four-armed woman who likes drinking blood. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Not050 (talk • contribs)

Mythology box explains why kali has "mythology". --Redtigerxyz (talk) 10:15, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Articles about Mythology:
In its broadest academic sense, the word "myth" simply means a traditional story, whether true or false. (—OED, Princeton Wordnet) Unless otherwise noted, the words "mythology" and "myth" are here used for sacred and traditional narratives, with no implication that any belief so embodied is itself either true or false.

Okay, I now understand the mythology label, but your comment was pretty offensive. --ॐJesucristo301 (talk) 18:41, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

What's offensive? --Ghostexorcist (talk) 13:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I have not written "I don't know. I guess it's just easier for people to believe in carpenter with a lot of common sense than to believe in a four-armed woman who likes drinking blood." Check history.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 11:16, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kali in the west?

Shouldn't it be a Kali in Neopaganism/New age more apporpiate than "the west"? :-/ Xuchilbara 20:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Change it if you like.--Redtigerxyz 11:20, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kali in the west picture

The picture is originally from here, I believe, and I'm not sure if it's free. Could someone check on this? 83.104.37.31 21:48, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Update: the terms of use are: "Permission to use these images on a personal, not-for-profit Web site may be obtained by writing me directly, whereupon I will give you the terms of usage." [1] --83.104.37.31 17:40, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, it's been removed now. 83.104.37.31 17:44, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] kali and darkness

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Sorry, but telling us to watch a youtube link is advertising and spamming (See WP:SPAM). Please don't do that again. Gizza^{Discuss ©} 04:09, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA Review

Hi I will be reviewing this article.Xenovatis (talk) 20:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quick Fail Criteria

WP:QFC

1. Many WP:RS used
2. NPOV, not written from POV of adherents
3. No banners
4. No recent edit wars
5. Not CE

[edit] GA Criteria

WP:GACR

GA review (see here for criteria)

• 1 It is reasonably well written.

1. a (prose): b (MoS):

Prose is great and MOS is followed sufficiently for GA purposes.

• 2 It is factually accurate and verifiable.

1. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

Sufficient number of citations for article size (43KB), citation required in disputed statement on Shiva in Kali iconography subsection.

• 3 It is broad in its coverage.

1. a (major aspects): b (focused):

Major aspsects of the subject convered across several mythologies and cultures, well focused on Kali

• 4 It follows the neutral point of view policy.

1. a (fair representation): b (all significant views):

Written from neutral POV not from adherent's POV.

• 6 It is stable.

1. 

Occasional vandalism by AnonIP's, article has expanded and improved alot compared to 2006 version.

• 7 It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

1. a (tagged and captioned): b lack of images (does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):

12 images, relevant and add to article, tagged and captioned, see recommendations

• 8 Overall:

1. a Pass/Fail: Xenovatis (talk) 20:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Following implementation of recommendations (see below) the article passes all 7 WP:GACR. On a personall note I remember visiting this article back in early 07 and it has really blossomed since that time. Well done to all.Xenovatis (talk) 10:28, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Recommendations needed to pass

• Please provide citation requested in the Shiva in Kali iconography subsection. Thanks. Xenovatis (talk) 20:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Remove POV line :"However, the symbolism of the above mentioned theological perspective is often seen as antiquated and misogynistic^{[citation needed]}."--Redtigerxyz (talk) 03:58, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedy reply.Xenovatis (talk) 10:35, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Further recommendations

• Consider moving images to Wikimedia commons if thinking about FA nomination
• Consider moving the image in the Mahakali form subsection and the image in Shiva in Kali iconography section so that they do not overlapp and bunch up the text, per MOS

Did that myself.Xenovatis (talk) 22:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

• Consider filling in some of the redlinks Xenovatis (talk) 20:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Article not formed for Sumbha-Nisumbha. All other red links eliminated.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 04:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

• Consider adding information on some of the peripheral cults that are nevertheless often associated with the Deva, like the Thugee etc.Xenovatis (talk) 10:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
• Nominator is allready reviewing another article for GA so no need to recommend that.Xenovatis (talk) 10:36, 10 April 2008 (UTC)