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Hey, I'm working on a new userbox for theatre techs. I'll let you know when I finish it. By the way, thanks for getting a picture of barn doors. KeepOnTruckin 01:03, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok I think I have it, see my talk page for new code. Picture is cropped a bit better. I hope I didn't force you to put the box on...just if you were interested. And then a whole announcement on your page...I don't get a a lot of recognition as a tech or anything else. KeepOnTruckin 21:31, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Glad to see you joined the wikiproject: staegcraft. And thanks for making the artical on the Source 4 PAR. I was calling it the S4 PARnel, is that correct?KeepOnTruckin 01:10, 19 September 2006 (UTC)


Jordan! I couldn't find many local people on here. Glad to see you.
--RicKAbbo 18:44, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Jordan. I'll get on that.
--RicKAbbo 19:47, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] North Dakota AFDs

Your input would be appreciated at the AFDs for the ND-related Grand Cities Mall and Hawktree Golf Club. The Grand Cities Mall article is especially important at this time. --AlexWCovington (talk) 19:38, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Smile!

DPM has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

ahhh! feel the smile...

Hey! Um I'm a welcomer (Not officialy. But, there probably is'nt a list of official welcomers...) anyway if you would like me to welcome you I will but that would make your userpage a subbier stub. (You would have to take away the part about not being welcomed.) Unless that is you were to rant about how happy you were that you got welcomed. Sorry about that. That paragragh that could have been a simple little sentence like:

Hi I can welcome if you want.DPM

That would be it and I would be done likety split. Oh... Sorry... I did It again. (that makes me think of a very bad song)Oh well. YOU GET IT. DPM 00:33, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Golf course issue is back

Check it out. --AlexWCovington (talk) 06:57, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Concordia Newsletter

NEWSLETTER

Concordia is currently trying to relaunch. I, and all the members of the ex-council, wish to welcome new members to the group. We are a group who aim to promote remaining civil, in an environment where messages can easily be interpretated wrongly.

[edit] Help out now!

  • Try and help people remain civil! Talk to them, and help them in any way possible. Do not be afraid to use the talk page.
  • Give people the Civility Barnstar.
  • Make and spread some Wikitokens so people know there are people to help if they want assistance.
  • Add banners or logos to your userpage to show your support.
  • Suggest some ideas! Add 'em to the talk page.

We are a community, so can only work though community contributions and support. It's the helping that counts.

[edit] Decision Making

The council expired one month ago, but due to the current position of the group the current council will remain until the position of the group can be assessed, and whether it would be sensible to keep Concordia going. For most decisions, however, it will be decided by all who choose to partake in discussions. I am trying to relaunch because of the vast amounts of new members we have received, demonstrating that the aims are supported.

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[edit] MatthewUND's RfA

I just self-nominated myself for administrator's status on Wikipedia. As an active member of WikiProject North Dakota, I feel that having admin status would allow me the ability to be more useful to the project and to curtail vandalism and other problems. An admin is able to protect pages that are being bombarded with vandalism and to more quickly revert pages that have been vandalized. I've always hoped that we could get an admin to join the WikiProject so we would have someone to turn to in times of need. Since we still don't have an active admin within the project's membership, I decided to nominate myself. I really hope you will visit my request for adminship and support me. Thanks! --MatthewUND(talk) 10:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the birthday wish! --Lekogm 06:29, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Red Pepper

Jordan, I really don't think we can call the Red Pepper an "attraction" for the entire state of ND. It may have a cult following in GF, but I just don't think it really qualifies as a ND attraction. Leave me a message if you disagree. Have a nice day! --MatthewUND(talk) 07:02, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stagelink

Hi there. I noticed that you've removed all the links to Stagelink after an IP user updated them the other day. I'm not going to re-instate them as I know the person who runs the site, but it is a bona-fide stagecraft links site, and pretty useful. What I'm saying is, I don't think it was spam - they've just changed the syntax of their internal links and the IP user was fixing the links so they didn't 404. Bryson430 11:42, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi there. I'm the webmaster and run the stagelink website. Could you give me an update on why all of the links were removed? Bryson correctly guessed that I was just updating all of the links to a new syntax but now you've gone and removed them all and I'm not quite sure why? Piersshepperd 19:29, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for resolving this. I've now set myself up as a user, to hopefully avoid this happening in the future. Piersshepperd 08:29, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Senior Senator

Hey. I do not know you, but i see you are a member of North Dakota Wikiproject. Please, could you answer my question. I would like to point out that in 1992, Kent Conrad retired, and Byron Dorgan won. Dorgan is still in the Senate. And then Conrad ran and won a few years later. Wouldn't this make Dorgan senior senator from North Dakota??

Thanks, Politics rule 23:01, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The WikiProject North Dakota Newsletter - Issue 1

The WikiProject North Dakota Newsletter

Issue 1

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New articles
There are always new North Dakota-related articles on Wikipedia. The following articles were recently created. Please help to expand and improve them.

Lloyd Omdahl | Alexander McKenzie (American politician) | Bob Peterson (North Dakota) | North Dakota State Auditor | Ken Karls | Bob Stenehjem | Kelly Schmidt | North Dakota State Treasurer | North Dakota Public Service Commission | Rick Berg | Ben Clayburgh | Steve Sydness | Earl Strinden | Beaver Lake State Park | Cross Ranch State Park | Devils Lake State Park | Wheelock, North Dakota | Robert Wefald | Valley City Public School District | State Historical Society of North Dakota | Metropolitan Opera House (Grand Forks, North Dakota) | Plains Art Museum | Prairie Knights Casino and Resort

Welcome to the WPND Newsletter!
This is the first issue of the new WikiProject North Dakota newsletter. You're receiving this because you have previously signed up to be a member of WPND. If you do not wish to receive future issues, please add your name to the opt-out list.

The WPND newsletter is a work in progress. Future issues may have different types of content and may use a different look. If you have any interesting ideas about what you would like to see in future issues or about the appearance of this newsletter, please share your ideas at the newsletter's talk page. Together, we can make this an interesting, informative, attractive newsletter. Watch for the next issue of the WPND newsletter!

News
-Assessments-
An intial round of assessments was recently done on all pages within the scope of WPND. These initial assessments...all 1,200+ of them...were done by MatthewUND. Matthew tried to generally follow the assessment guidelines found at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment.

To see the assessment of any North Dakota page, simply go to the page's talk page and check the WPND banner. The assessment is presented in a color-coded field in the WPND banner. To change an assessment, edit the page and change the word after "class=" in the WPND banner. Add one of the following codes:

Stub - for very small articles
Start - for slightly longer, higher quality articles
B - for high quality articles of an appropriate length
List - for lists
Cat - for categories
Template - for templates
NA - for pages that are not articles, templates, or categories

Any WPND member should feel free to change any page's assessment. However, keep in mind that there are assessments (particularly GA for "Good Article" or FA for "Featured Article") which can't be applied without having gone through a nomination process.

Current project statistics

North Dakota
articles		 Importance
None Total
Quality
Featured article FA 1 1
A
Good article GA 2 2
B 41 41
Start 709 709
Stub 573 573
Assessed 1326 1326
Unassessed 0 0
Total 1326 1326


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[edit] Flood image

I agree with you. The Blue Moose should be in the picture and there are rails on the bridge. Like you said, I'm sure there are other things, but I'm not familiar enough with downtown of the 1970s and 1980s to be able to pick them out. It must be from '79. I removed it from the 1997 flood article. You have a good eye! --MatthewUND(talk) 04:32, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The WikiProject North Dakota Newsletter - Issue 2 - July 2007

The WikiProject North Dakota Newsletter

Issue 2 - July 2007

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Current project statistics

North Dakota
articles		 Importance
None Total
Quality
Featured article FA 1 1
A
Good article GA 2 2
B 45 45
Start 727 727
Stub 659 659
Assessed 1434 1434
Unassessed 6 6
Total 1440 1440


News
---North Dakota Portal---
Wikipedia now has a new portal devoted exclusively to the state of North Dakota. Check out Portal:North Dakota.

WPND member NDCompuGeek has constructed the initial framework for the portal and it should now be easy to update the portal on a month-by-month basis. The portal will serve as a kind of "front door" for people using Wikipedia to learn more about North Dakota. It is a great starting point for branching out into the many aspects of the state.

Each month a different article, picture, city, and biography will be showcased along with current news and happenings from around the state. The July version of the portal showcases the Mandan tribe, Governor John Hoeven, and the capital city of Bismarck.

Visit the portal's talk page to share your opinions and ideas regarding the portal.

New articles
An exceptionally large number of new North Dakota-related articles were created during June. Please help to expand and improve the following articles which were created during the past month.

Alfred Wallin | Alvin C. Strutz | Andrew A. Bruce | Andrew Miller (North Dakota) | Arne Dahl | Ben Meier | Bennett Elementary School | Berta E. Baker | Beryl J. Levine | Bismarck Governors | Charles Fisk | Climate of Grand Forks, North Dakota | Curtis G. Olson | David Morgan (North Dakota) | Don L. Short | Edward Engerud | Edward T. Burke | Edwin F. Ladd | Evan B. Goss | Fargo-Moorhead media | Fred Gottfried Swenson | Geography of Minot, North Dakota | Guy C. H. Corliss | H. Kent Jones | H.F. Gierke III | Harrison A. Bronson | Harvey B. Knudson | Henry C. Hansbrough | Henry Linde | Henry Thomas Helgesen | Herbert L. Meschke | Herman Thorson | History of Grand Forks, North Dakota | J. Philip Johnson | James D. Gronna | Jim Kusler | John Dorso | John Flittie | John Knauf | John M. Cochrane | John N. Hagan | John Steen | Joseph Bartholomew | Ken Karls | Kevin Cramer | KFBN | KKLQ | KXBQ-LP | Liberty Memorial Building | Luther E. Birdzell | Lyman R. Casey | Martin N. Johnson | Math Dahl | Minot Vistas | Myron Just | Newton C. Young | North Dakota American Legion Baseball | North Dakota Commissioner of Agriculture and Labor | North Dakota Congressional Districts | North Dakota Department of Agriculture | North Dakota Department of Career and Technical Education | North Dakota Department of Labor | North Dakota Labor Commissioner | Oakes Municipal Airport | Obert A. Olson | Obert C. Teigen | Olger B. Burtness | Patrick Daniel Norton | Paul M. Sand | Porter J. McCumber | Robert Byrne (North Dakota) | Robert Vogel | Robert W. Peterson (North Dakota) | Sarah Vogel | Susan Wefald | Thomas Frank Marshall | Tony Clark (North Dakota) | Usher L. Burdick | Vernon R. Pederson | Walter C. Taylor | William A. Neumann | William C. Gilbreath | William N. Roach | William Paulson

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[edit] The WikiProject North Dakota Newsletter - Issue 3 - August 2007

The WikiProject North Dakota Newsletter

Issue 3 - August 2007

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News
---Grand Forks now a Featured Article---
Grand Forks, North Dakota was recently designated as a Featured Article. This means that the article has gone through a nomination process in which it was reviewed and its quality was assessed. The fact that this article made it through the process shows that it is a high quality, well-written, well-sourced article. Currently, there are only a little over 1,500 Featured Articles in the almost two million articles on the English language Wikipedia. That means that only about one in 1,270 articles has been given this designation.

The Grand Forks article is a great example to follow when working on other city articles, particularly those about North Dakota cities. We would be very well off if our other major city articles were similar to the Grand Forks article. Keep the Grand Forks article bookmarked and refer to its structure and style when you work on similar articles.

---New assessment parameter---
You're likely aware that all WPND articles now include a quality rating located on the article's talk page. Now, a new assessment parameter is being implemented. The importance rating aims to gauge the "importance" of the article's subject as it relates to North Dakota. As an example, Bismarck, North Dakota would not be considered as being very important in relation to the country or the world, but it is of top importance when considering just the state of North Dakota.

The importance of each article is gauged as either Top, High, Mid, or Low. Since "importance" is a rather subjective term, some WPND members are trying to come up with a general set of guidelines. Check out this thread on the WPND talk page to see proposals and to share your own opinions of what is and isn't "important" in the state.

Please help to improve and expand these articles which were recently added to the WPND project:
Cities Area Transit | Dakota Territory Air Museum | Fight On Sioux | Fort Totten State Historic Site | Grand Forks Chiefs | It's For You, North Dakota U | List of people from Grand Forks, North Dakota | Log Cabin Museum, Sheyenne, ND | McKenzie Electric Cooperative | North Dakota Democratic-Independent Party | North Dakota Railroad Commission | North Dakota State Cabinet | Old Main (Minot State University-Bottineau) | Pembina State Museum | Politics of North Dakota | Ruth Meiers Hospitality House | Spirit Lake Casino | Stand Up and Cheer (song) | Turtle Mountain Indian Reservation | UND Alma Mater

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[edit] SPA

You said you are active in Summer Performing Arts in Grand Forks. Do you think someone should create a SPA page? I'm active in it too.TRBUFF 01:15, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Looks great! Good work. --MatthewUND(talk) 05:47, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The WikiProject North Dakota Newsletter - Issue 4 - September 2007

The WikiProject North Dakota Newsletter

Issue 4 - September 2007

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News
---North Dakota articles on Main Page---
This past month, two new North Dakota-related articles appeared in the Main Page's "Did you know?" section. The articles were Zip to Zap and Climate of North Dakota. Congratulations to the creators of these articles — it's always exciting to see North Dakota articles on Wikipedia's Main Page. A request has also recently been made to make Grand Forks, North Dakota a Featured Article of the day.

---Active members and inactive members---
In an effort to more accurately gauge just how large WPND is, the WPND members list has been split into an active and inactive list. If you have not made an edit to a North Dakota-related page within the last three months, you are moved to the inactive list and do not receive the WPND newsletter. If you disagree with moving members to an inactive list, please share your thoughts at the WPND talk page.

---New administrator---
WPND member MatthewUND (talk · contribs) was recently promoted to Administrator status. That means that he has been granted the use of special tools so he can take care of housekeeping tasks such as blocking disruptive users, protecting pages, deleting pages, and quickly reverting edits to pages. It has been mentioned in the past that WPND was in need of an administrator. With MatthewUND's promotion, that is now a reality. Please contact MatthewUND if you are ever in need of an administrator's help.

New articles
Please help to improve and expand these new North Dakota-related articles:
Bismarck-Mandan Symphony Orchestra · Central North Dakota Steam Thresher's Reunion · Climate of North Dakota · Empire Arts Center · Fort Clark Trading Post State Historic Site · Greater Grand Forks Symphony Orchestra · Herman Beach · Herschel Lashkowitz · Hi-Line Railroad Bridge · List of defunct high schools in North Dakota · List of University of North Dakota people · Media in Carrington, North Dakota · Media in Jamestown, North Dakota · Minnie D. Craig · Missouri-Yellowstone Confluence Interpretive Center · NDSU Spectrum · New Rockford-Sheyenne Public School · North Dakota Fighting Sioux softball · North Dakota Workforce Safety and Insurance · On Bison · Pointe of View Winery · Robertson Field (North Dakota) · Sorlie Memorial Bridge · Summer Performing Arts Company · Tagus, North Dakota · The Roger Maris Museum · The Yellow and The Green · Town Team Baseball (North Dakota) · Zip to Zap

The WikiProject North Dakota newsletter is a work in progress so please share your ideas about how the newsletter can be improved. If you no longer wish to receive this newsletter, please add your name to the opt-out list. Those who have not contributed to a North Dakota-related page in the last three months are inactive and will not receive this newsletter.

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[edit] The WikiProject North Dakota Newsletter - Issue 5 - October 2007

The WikiProject North Dakota Newsletter

Issue 5 - October 2007

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News
---Article deletions---
A series of deletions of North Dakota articles this past month is a good reminder that we need to be careful when creating new articles. Before creating any article, it is a good idea to 1) check out Wikipedia:Notability to see if the subject deserves an article and 2) make sure that worthwhile sources can be found pertaining to the subject and are effectively used to cite the article. Often, instead of simply creating a brand new stub article for a subject, it is a good idea to expand an existing article that in some way can address the subject.

---Peer reviews---
The University of North Dakota and North Dakota State University articles are currently up for peer review. Please take a moment to visit UND's peer review and NDSU's peer review. Read through the articles and then share your opinions of where the articles currently stand and how they might be improved. Peer review is often a step in the process of getting articles to Good Article or Featured Article status. As a WikiProject, we are very much in need of more GA or FA class articles.

Housekeeping
---Mandan demoted---
After a review, the Mandan tribe article is no longer considered Featured Article class. This is a reminder that even after articles have made it all the way to FA class, it is always possible for them to lose that designation. This also means that WPND is down to one FA class article.

New articles
Please help to improve and expand these new North Dakota-related articles:
740th Missile Squadron · 741st Missile Squadron · Bison Illustrated · Carrington High School · KMAV (AM) · Mandak League · NDSU Magazine · Northern Tier Bicycle Route · Phoenix Elementary School · William P. Tuttle

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[edit] The WikiProject North Dakota Newsletter - Issue 6 - November 2007

The WikiProject North Dakota Newsletter

Issue 6 - November 2007

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News
---UND article upgraded---
The University of North Dakota article was recently upgraded to "good article" status. This brings WPND up to two good articles and one featured article. We should work on bringing other North Dakota articles up to a higher status. Look in Category:Top-importance North Dakota articles for articles to work on improving. It would be great to get the main North Dakota article to GA or FA class in the near future. There are also a number of other articles which are close to GA status already...a little work will make them ready for that designation.

---Assessing article importance---
Work continues on assessing the "importance" of all articles that fall under the banner of WPND. Currently, around a third of all articles have been rated for importance.

New articles
Please help to improve and expand these new (or newly added to WPND) North Dakota-related articles:
2007–08 North Dakota Fighting Sioux men's ice hockey team · Adam Hamm · Big Hidatsa Village Site · Bison Radio Network · Bowman County High School · Buford, North Dakota · Carrington High School · Electoral reform in North Dakota · KCAD · KLTC · KZRX · Pierre Gaultier de Varennes, sieur de La Vérendrye · Prairie Pothole Region · Rupert's Land · We are the Pride

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[edit] Basis in policy

Hi, I'm wondering if you would demonstrate the basis in Wikipedia policy for your request on the will o' the wisp / ghost light merger talk page. Thanks, Antelan talk 01:00, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why you were there

A comment by an anonymous IP who clearly knows Perfectblue apparently triggered Perfectblue to oppose the merger with a rather specious argument. I can produce the diff if you're interested, but it's not a particularly big deal. However, it left me in a suspicious state of mind. Questioning you on why you showed up to comment on the talk page was hasty of me. Please accept my apologies. Antelan talk 21:00, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No worries

You may not be aware of this, but there is quite a long history regarding myself, Perfectblue, and Martinphi. Consensus can be abused, and these two are notorious for doing so. I appreciate your gesture of good faith, but you might want to be careful about how you characterize the actions of others with regards to this sticky thing called "consensus". ScienceApologist (talk) 18:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re.:Will-o'-the-wisp vs Ghostlight: Merger Damages Wikipedia's Reputation

Ghostlight is merged with the former. The intro of the former will cause readers to assume that a ghostlight is seen in swampy areas, when in fact some are seen in the driest of places, such as Marfa, Texas and Iran. This merge will further damage Wikipedia's reputation, since it implies that Wikipedia cannot tell a swampy area from a desert area. I am close to the locations of at least four of these, and NOT ONE is in a SWAMPY area at all. 65.163.115.114 (talk) 17:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The WikiProject North Dakota Newsletter - Issue 7 - December 2007

The WikiProject North Dakota Newsletter

Issue 7 - December 2007

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News
---A new "Good Article"---
WPND now has another new good article: 1997 Red River Flood in the United States. This article was recently split off from the 1997 Red River Flood article. Much of the credit for this article's promotion should go to Nehrams2020 (talk · contribs).

---Let's improve our main article---
For a WikiProject whose focus is the state of North Dakota, there is likely no article that should be more important to us than the North Dakota article itself. We should work on improving this article to at the very least good article status and ideally featured article status.

---UND on the Main Page?---
The University of North Dakota article is currently listed as a good article. Given UND's 125th anniversary ([1]), perhaps we should think about improving this article to featured status so it could potentially be the article of the day in February when the event is officially observed.

New articles
Please help to improve and expand these new (or newly added to WPND) North Dakota-related articles:
1997 Red River Flood in the United States · Bakken Formation · Beulah High School · Carrington Public Schools · Dakota Central Telecommunications · Hazen High School (Hazen, North Dakota) · Henry Holt (North Dakota politician) · KEYA · Lisa K. Fair McEvers · North Dakota census statistical areas · North Dakota Century Code · North Dakota wine · Valley City High School · Valley News Live · Williston Basin

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