Talk:Just Like Heaven (song)

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[edit] more info

This should have way more info... It is one of THE classic songs by the Cure. Hopefully someone will fill this in a bit.Amber388 14:52, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move request

From WP:RM:

The article was recently moved in the other direction on the basis of the same naming conventions. I think we may need to establish (by discussion) whether "like" is a preposition which should be decapitalised or a major word which should be capitalised. --Stemonitis 19:46, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

We can't tell if it's a preposition here without the song lyrics, and that's something I'm not going to look at now. It could just as well be an adverb (e.g. "feels just like heaven"). I would support the capitalization of the word in most contexts. Dekimasuよ! 00:06, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
The title is only used in the song once, at the end ("You/just like heaven"). Despite being an English major I've never been too clear on my prepositions, but this doesn't seem like one. Additionally, the capitalization rules about "like" are somewhat odd; I've never seen "like" treated like that in titles. Every single source that prints this song title capitalizes the word "Like". WesleyDodds 01:43, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA promotion

Great job folks. This article is well-written, pretty-well copyedited (I made a few minor corrections, just to save time and energy), thorough, well-referenced, and neutral. I also kept in mind the British punctuation and spelling, which is appropriate to a British topic.--Esprit15d (talk ¤ contribs) 19:12, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] American cover artwork

This is too indistict from the UK version to warrent inclusion; also it extends the infobox and crunches up the aligned paras. Is it necessary? Ceoil 23:11, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't care either way; it was in the article long before I started working on it. If you want to take it out that's fine by me. WesleyDodds 03:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm curious why Richard Cheese's version of the song isnt mentioned. The way Lounge Against the Machine plays it, it's very sad and not fun at all.

[edit] Method?

The article mentions Robert Smith's method for writing songs: can you either explain it, or reference it? Thanks.

[edit] Suggestions

The article looks really good. A few notes from doing a copyedit:

  • The infobox doesn't say who wrote the song, only who produced it.
  • The lead is relatively short, only two two-sentence paragraphs.
  • Smith's "writing regime" should be briefly explained.
  • The Melody Maker review seems out of place. It should be moved to the second paragraph in the Reception section, or its relevance to the chart positions needs to be established.
  • If there's any information available about why this song's title was used for the Just like Heaven film, that would be helpful.
  • It may be helpful to expand the Music video section with a description/synopsis of the video or its plot. That would also help to establish context for discussing Mary Poole's appearance in the video.
  • Since the article alludes to how Dinosaur Jr's cover is different from the original, a sample of that cover may be helpful.
  • The song isn't categorized by genre. If not all of Category:The Cure songs can be placed in Category:Alternative rock songs, then the songs that are alternative should be added to it.

Hope this helps. 17Drew (talk) 06:29, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Capitalization (or capitalisation for you British types)

This was touched on above, but nothing really came of it, so I'm re-opening the discussion. As far as I can tell, the proper title of the song is "Just Like Heaven" with a capital L. I have two albums featuring the song, and on both all three words are capitalized; also, the Rolling Stone article from the external links capitalizes all three words. Indeed, I've never seen it written any other way. The band also capitalizes it on their official website. I would be bold here and just move it, but snce the article is featured I thought it'd be best to get opinions first. Cheers, faithless (speak) 04:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the proper title is "Just Like Heaven" but I've had no luck having the page moved back to its proper capitalization. We can't move it manually because of the redirect edit histories, and trying to get it moved through Wikipedia:Requested moves was fruitless. WesleyDodds (talk) 04:56, 31 March 2008 (UTC)