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[edit] Writers Block

The link to his single Writers Block only goes to a disambiguation page, which does not have a link to the single just other meanings so the link should be removed and just have it there as text Andy86 13:17, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Page Creation

Errr Just Jack is possibly/probably about to have the first new UK number 1 in 2007? How can he not have a page????

why is it not possible to recreate this page? Just Jack is an emerging dance music artist who's set to be big in the UK this year, I can't see why someone has seen fit to prevent the creation of an article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.106.198.15 (talk)


Agreed, Just Jack is a lot more popular than some of the musicians which have their own page on Wikipedia, the single "Starz in their Eyes" looks set for a prominent place in the UK Singles Chart this week, they definitely deserve a page. WHirl 19:18, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


This page must be re-created now, his single reached number 4 in the national chart today. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jet2006 (talk • contribs)

The way the page was originally written must have met common guidelines on speedy deletion (e.g. failing to assert notability), and was recreated a few times in rapid succession. For the page to be recreated, you need to write some content (offline) that will appear suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia, and contact an administrator that such content exists (by putting it in your user space at User:Jet2006/Sandbox) and needs to be placed for inclusion. In general, the content should meet the following guidelines:
  • Contain assertions of notability as described at WP:NOTE
  • Utilize multiple refernces or third-parties independant of the subject.
  • Avoid rumours or other "crystal-ball" claims (WP:CRYSTAL.
If you can convince an administrator to undelete the page (preferably at the deletion review page), you'll be free to write the content. --Sigma 7 21:56, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
(edit conflict, but probably still useful) Just Jack almost certainly meets the notability guidelines for musicians. He's been the subject of articles in Metro and The Observer, been on national rotation on major radio networks (he's on the A list on Radio 1 at the time of writing (source)) and, as the above contributor mentioned, he has had a charted hit on a national music chart. Matt Eason (Talk • Contribs) 22:02, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm removing the protection and recreation block. The subject's single is on heavy rotation on most UK radio stations, and that certainly qualifies them as notable. -- The Anome 11:08, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

His song, writer's block, is also being used for the Le Printemps du Cinéma 2007 ads in France.

Just another case of fucking idiot kneejerk editors deleting stuff because they haven't a fucking clue about music and are totally out of the loop...some asshole did the same thing for Download's III Step Forward's album and band Skintone article...the onus is on them to do the fucking research to see if something doesn't exist or isn't "notable" before being trigger happy and deleting the diligent work of contributors. Antic-Hay 14:51, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

First off, please read WP:CIVIL. Secondly, while I agree that editors should do quick checks to try and establish the notability of the subject, or lack thereof (by conducting a Google search, for example), the onus is on the article's author and those opposing its deletion to provide adequate, reliable sources. WP:CSD — Matt Eason (Talk • Contribs) 19:24, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Promotional copy

"Overtones is the 2007 sophomore album from Jack Allsopp AKA Just Jack. 12 tracks [Plus hidden track] that bristle with razor-sharp lyrics, shimmering melodies and incandescent beats which sees him take the sum of his individual influences and turn them into this unique, genre-hopping, jump-up album, including the singles Writer's Block and Starz In Their Eyes."

This paragraph reads as if it has been copy/pasted from a review of the album. Wikipedia's role is not to lavish praise on a subject. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmmmike (talk • contribs)

It's in the product description on Amazon and other sites. It's also a potential copyright violation. I've removed it. (Please sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes - ~~~~. Thanks) — Matt Eason (Talk • Contribs) 22:16, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Named "Just Jack"

I really don't see the connection between a UK musician and Will & Grace. Unless Just Jack has said in an interview somewhere that he got his stage name from W&G (which seems unlikely), there is no reason to mention an unrelated TV show in his article. The idea of putting "Just" in front of a common name is not unusual. 76.103.213.78 (talk) 23:46, 3 May 2008 (UTC)