Talk:Jurassic Coast
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[edit] GB Vs UK
This the difference between the UK and GB very hard for even people in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland to grasp - to say the Coast was the first natural site in GB is correct, but confusing when you look at the list of Heritage Sites in the UK lists. Unless the subject is specifically related to GB rather than the UK then I feel it should remain showing as the 2nd in the UK. --C Hawke 06:55, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- I think you do people a great disservice by saying they can't distinguish between Great Britain and the United Kingdom, as I think the vast majority of people in the UK can. Besides it's actually the third natural World Heritage site in the UK after The Giants' Causeway and St. Kilda, or are sites with joint natural and property status not counted? BigTurnip (talk) 12:20, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- I agree; most people do know the difference, and if they don't, they can click on the link and see. I suppose, if the sentence read 'The second wholly natural WHS in the UK', or 'the first wholly natural WHS in Great Britain', the sentence would be correct. The current sentence would also be correct if it was made clear that just natural sites are included. Rossenglish (talk) 13:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- Believe me, large numbers of people do NOT know the difference in the UK, and when you add in all the people world wide, who think Scotland is a part of England - anyone who has read Bill Bryson will be familiar with tales of shocking knowledge of world geography within his homeland. As to the people of the UK, I speak from a small position of knowledge having worked in the geographical field for many years. Ask 10 people to define the UK and I doubt 25% would get it 100% right, and before you dismiss this, can you both honestly (and without cheating now :-D ) tell me if the UK includes Isle of Man, Scilly Isles, Isle of White, Channel Islands and Lundy. And then add in the positions of Gibraltar, Falklands. And what about the British Isles? There are many terms which get mis-used. But I think te actual sentence doesn't actually add that much, so it probably best removing it.--C Hawke (talk) 19:15, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm... If we avoid the situation by sticking with the UK rather than GB, that the sentence would be correct if it had a qualifier stating that it is the second 'just natural' rather than mixed? I would be happy with this change (in bold): "Chartered in 2001, the Jurassic coast was the second wholly-natural World Heritage Site to be designated in the United Kingdom." Rossenglish (talk) 19:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- Believe me, large numbers of people do NOT know the difference in the UK, and when you add in all the people world wide, who think Scotland is a part of England - anyone who has read Bill Bryson will be familiar with tales of shocking knowledge of world geography within his homeland. As to the people of the UK, I speak from a small position of knowledge having worked in the geographical field for many years. Ask 10 people to define the UK and I doubt 25% would get it 100% right, and before you dismiss this, can you both honestly (and without cheating now :-D ) tell me if the UK includes Isle of Man, Scilly Isles, Isle of White, Channel Islands and Lundy. And then add in the positions of Gibraltar, Falklands. And what about the British Isles? There are many terms which get mis-used. But I think te actual sentence doesn't actually add that much, so it probably best removing it.--C Hawke (talk) 19:15, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- I agree; most people do know the difference, and if they don't, they can click on the link and see. I suppose, if the sentence read 'The second wholly natural WHS in the UK', or 'the first wholly natural WHS in Great Britain', the sentence would be correct. The current sentence would also be correct if it was made clear that just natural sites are included. Rossenglish (talk) 13:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
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