Talk:Juno Beach

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Just wondering if D-day can really be called a turning point? Prior to D-day the germans being contiuously pushed back by the russians and d-day only sped up the end of the war.

It was a turning point in that it put Nazi Germany's hold over Europe into a vice (Russia on one side, Allies on the other). It didn't just "speed up the end of the war," but provided the USSR military relief in forcing the Germans to fight on two separate fronts. It is really doubtful the Russians could have taken over Europe themselves.

I would argue against that. The Soviet juggernaut by the time the Allies landed was seemingly quite capable of defeating the remaining of the German forces at that time (the Germans still had the vast bulk of their manpower remain on the Eastern Front after the Allies landed). It can be argued that the Allies didn't so much land to aid the Soviets, but to prevent them from conquering all of Europe. Oberiko 13:49, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Someone cleverly put it as WWI so I changed it to WWII. pointy 11:26, 6 February 2006

Could someone maybe include some information on the polish forces attached to the canadian Juno invasion force? --24.57.134.42 03:02, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

What Polish force landed at Juno on D-Day??? Erik

Don't think they landed on D-Day, but the Polish 1st Armoured Division was part of the Canadian First Army. heqs 14:43, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Found a source that says the 1st Polish Armoured Division didn't land until August 1st, well after D-day. See Veterans Affairs Canada page at [1] Burtonpe 13:16, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I've noticed that it says strength: 15,000 and then somewhere else it says 14,000 landed. how does that work?

Contents 1 Merge Order of Battle with Regiments 2 British 3 Juno in 2006 4 WP:MILHIST Assessment 5 new section

[edit] Merge Order of Battle with Regiments

Looks like a lot of duplication between the OOB and the Regiments sub sections on this page. With a little work, and some spit and polish, it would really improve the artical. Motorfix 16:42, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] British

The article seems not to indicate that a substantial number of British troops were involved in the Juno Beach operations; I think they should be included - I also think their numbers warrant inclusion in the combatants section of the battlebox. I'll try and dig up sources, but this entire page needs to be footnoted - at present there are none.Michael Dorosh 15:06, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Juno in 2006

Added in some pics I took in Sept 2006 at Juno Beach; found the same bunker as shown in two of the images on this page, which was extremely well preserved especially considering it's on the coast and totally unsheltered. In response to the Polish string above, our tour guide stated that Polish units did come ashore on or soon after D-Day, and that they even had encounters against conscript Poles fighting for the Germans. Clearly this isn't a great source, I'll see if I can find anyting concrete to confirm this. Burtonpe 21:20, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:MILHIST Assessment

I'm awarding this B-class on account of the sheer volume of information. But I think that in order to improve this article beyond B-class, some serious reorganization needs to take place. The gallery should go at the bottom, I think, and the list-style sections should be somehow condensed or converted into a nicer format. As is, they take up too much of the page in terms of vertical scroll. LordAmeth 07:50, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] new section

It is my firm belief that another section needs to be added to this page. The point needs to be made that, although only one squadron actually reached their objective [a group of hussars that reached the Caen Railway line] the Canadians managed to get closer to their objectives than anyone else on day one.

Climie.ca 19:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC) Cam

That was just the 1st Hussars like you said