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[edit] Juneau's size in area

Juneau has an area of roughly 3100 square miles while Connecticut has an area of over 5500 square miles. Consequently, the size of Juneau is not larger than Connecticut as claimed on the page. It is, however, larger than both Delaware and Rhode Island and its size is roughly that of the two states together. 216.68.35.35 00:47, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Dont forget that Juneau is the longest city in the whole USA :) Shannara 00:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your edits to Juneau, Alaska

Hello, I noticed you reverted both my edits to Juneau, Alaska's article.

Firstly, for Holland America Line motor vessels, I believe they specifically use a decapitalized abbreviation. Thus, it should read "ms" instead of "MS" (I base this off of their website). If I've gone astray please do correct me, but this seems as to be how it should be done otherwise.

Secondly, for the link to Sitka, Alaska, to be honest I don't quite know what the rationale would be linking to Sitka City and Borough, Alaska as that is a redirect to Sitka, Alaska. If you get a chance let me know what your thinking is.

Thanks, Jarfingle 14:56, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I had never seen MS, SS, HMS or any other ship prefix lower-case before. I reverted them, not because I didn't believe it was possible, but for confomity and only after consulting with Ship prefix. I thought I changed the Sitka, Alaska link to conform with the change you had previously made. I'm not sure I saw the difference in context.--Evb-wiki 15:23, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
ps - I also went to Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (ships) for guidance. (Nothing directly on point.)--Evb-wiki 15:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC) pps - My mistake on the Sitka link. I had meant to conform the others to your edit.--Evb-wiki 15:48, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
No worries. The page only get recently moved to Sitka, Alaska from Sitka City and Borough, Alaska, and yeah, before that I was guilty of linking to the latter!
Per the Holland America ships, it seems that HAL is merely an anomaly in naming convention. Perhaps we should revert to how they do it?
Jarfingle 00:30, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Other State Capitals without Interstate Highways?

What about Honolulu, HI? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.56.33.2 (talk) 04:44, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

Honolulu is served by I-H1 and I-H201. However, Dover, DE, is not served by the Eisenhower Interstate System.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.33.78.176 (talk) 13:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Glaring omission: The capitol building

The building serving as it now, as well as attempts to build something unique --where's the information? (or at least a picture) --Bobak 23:32, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

The buildings not 'serving' as it, it was designed for it, and it is unique, its one of only two capitols in the US that isn't domed. They want a new one just because this ones getting up there in age, but its not a stopgap, pressed into service building. -Mask 21:59, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
I know there were plans for a new Capitol, and remember seeing an article about with pictures in the local paper, but don't know what the plan is now. You can find some info on the local newspapers web site, http://www.juneauempire.com--Dan2119 01:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name

I'm moving this back to City and Borough of Juneau for a couple reasons, 1, they are one and the same, 2, City and Borough or CBJ are by far the most common terms here, and 3, it's not like a city co extensive with a county.... we dont have counties up here, the Borough system is like a sphere of influence, there are no city assemblies in Alaska, JUST Borough assemblies, if a city is granted its own Borough without sharing it with a nearby cit(y)(ies), they trumpet it everywhere. Even the Empire (The newspaper)tells its readers every day that its printed in the City and Borough. The leterheads from every agency say it, the news reports are about the CBJ assembly (on radio mostly) or the Borough assembly (tv, dont know why, but they draw it out). -Mask 21:59, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

This would seem to be more of a technicality. No other Alaskan cities are titled as such, and outside of Alaska the area is more commonly known as "Juneau". I'm moving it back per naming conventions. --Tom (talk - email) 12:33, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Also, CBJ might get written everywhere, but no one actually calls it that. They usually complain about "the city" or say they live in "Juneau".... Official nomenclature aside. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.207.240.4 (talk) 20:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I call city vehicles cbj-mobiles, does that count? l'aqùatique talk 04:46, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comment

I'm not actually reviewing this article, just browsing the GAC list, and I came across the article. Just a note, but I don't think this article has nearly enough references to pass at the moment. Also, a few of your references use this [ format ] instead of the < ref > format. Most of the history, transportation, and people and culture sections lack sources. But considering a reviewer hasnt actually come across it yet, you could probably still improve it in time! Regards, Asdfasdf1231234 (talk) 16:29, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA Review

This article does not meet the Good Article criteria. There's too many gaps in information (incomplete), and there are insufficient reference citations (including at least one 'citation needed' tag). The reference citations also do not comply with the formatting requirements specified by the manual of style (please include full citation information: author, title, publisher, date of publication, and date of retrieval if the citation is accessible via the web). There are also two items listed under 'references' that are not inline citations -- these should be moved to a 'further reading' section, or converted to inline citations, directly citing material in the article.

The lead section is too long, too disjointed, with random tidbits of information that looks like several things were added by several editors. Please see WP:LEAD for tips on improving this section.

Most sections are simply too short, and the order of sections should be reorganized to emphasize more important areas, such as history, geography, demographics, and economy (these four should be the first four sections, in that order). The 'districts' section could be combined with 'geography' as a subsection, and changed to a 'cityscape' subsection title -- it should discuss the various sections & neighborhoods in the city, and how they interrelate to one another, and not just listing the districts as a bulleted list.

'Education' is just two bulleted lists. There's no prose here. It doesn't really look complete, and doesn't actually discuss the schools and/or their significance and contribution to the city. There's also no mention of libraries.

There is no 'government' section. As the state capital of Alaska, I find this particularly interesting, but more importantly, the section should concentrate on discussion how the city government works, and the major characteristics of the local government. Some mention of the state government is important as well.

'Economy' is just too short. A grand total of four sentence in two very short paragraphs. Just incomplete here.

I would probably rate this article on the scale somewhere between Start and B class. There's starting to get a lot of information here, but it doesn't conform to the manual of style, or other guidelines. There's just a lot of work that needs to be done before this becomes a good article. I would strongly recommend looking at the US city guideline template, which discusses the major sections and their order, and offers suggestions on how best to write an article about a US city. It might help also to look at the structure of some existing US cities that are current GAs, such as Richmond, Virginia or Flagstaff, Arizona.

Hope this helps. Good luck! Dr. Cash (talk) 15:30, 24 March 2008 (UTC)