User talk:Julien Tuerlinckx

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Arm 18:18, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

1 Belgian clubs
2 Tony O'Malley
3 Empty articles
4 Belgian beer
5 Graphics converters
6 Trappist beer
7 Stable polynomial
8 Root sensitivity
9 Edit summary
10 Lebesgue constant
11 Lagrange polynomial
12 Belgian football
13 Kind of Blue
14 Moret / Moretus
15 More Belgian football
16 Belgium
17 Trappist beers
18 Routh-Hurwitz
19 Infobox
20 Belgian Ebony Shoe
21 Image:Cheik ismael tiote.jpg
22 Frutos
23 Football squad (club brugge)
24 Belgian Football in Second Division
25 Sources for K.S.V. Waterschei Thor
26 Chaussée d'Haecht > Chaussée d'Emirdag
27 A redirect
28 Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Article improvement drive
29 Date of Birth format
30 Edit summary
31 Belgian National Team qualifying streak
32 Brussels Metro
33 Template talk:Football player infobox
34 R.S.C. Anderlecht
35 Belgian Referees
36 Proposed deletion
37 Wilkinson's polynomial
38 Belgian football Bribing/Gambling scandal 2006
39 Vlaams Blok trial
40 WikiProject Belgium
41 WP Munich
42 Brasserie à vapeur
43 Image:Anthony vandenborre.jpg
44 WikiProject France
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[edit] Belgian clubs

Hey Julien, just want to say excellent job on the Belgian clubs and all of Belgian football altogether! --Dryazan 19:34, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tony O'Malley

Hi, I notice you added the category "Irish painters" to this article. Thanks for your attention to Irish artists articles, this is the second you have categorized. I myself actually got rid of the Irish painter category a while ago on the grounds that (Irish artists - Irish painters) wasn't very many people, that situation has actually improved now and it might be worth subcategorizing Irish artists, if you want to help with this that would be cool.Notjim 13:37, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Empty articles

Please don't create articles which contain only categories, interwiki or external links, or navigational boxes, but no other actual text. An article should have at least some text to be a valid article, otherwise it is a candidate for speedy deletion (see Criteria: Articles #3). The reason why such articles are discouraged is that they make red links appear blue like links to valid articles, but the user will be disappointed to find no meaningful text there except the metadata. At least a stub of actual text is needed. andy 12:12, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Belgian beer

Please use Belgian beer not Belgian beers as the category - cat names should match article names, should not be plural, and should match all the other categories. Justinc 13:32, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Graphics converters

Julien, I don't personally know of any free graphics converters, although I'm sure there are plenty out there for whatever OS you're using. I used Adobe Photoshop Elements to convert the logos I posted. Dale Arnett 17:01, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Trappist beer

Hello Julien I see you are doing a hard work at removing informations on trappist beer to replace them with other wrong informations. The article about trappist beer is often modified (that's wikipedia, of course) but you must check your sources, and not believe too quickly what you can hear here or there. I have made a contribution in the trappist beer wikipedia discussion list about the 7 (not 6) trappist beers, including La Trappe. I hope you won't delete it again before reading why it is wrong to say that there are 6 trappist beers, while in fact there are 7. Cyril

[edit] Stable polynomial

I removed the stub notice from stable polynomial. This notice is only used for articles with one or two paragraphs of text, but the stable polynomial article is too long to be called a stub. See Wikipedia:Stub for further guidance.

On another topic, I am wondering about your edits to Wilkinson's polynomial. Why is this important? Is it not the case that the zeros of any polynomial in Lagrange form are stable, if one interpolates at the zeros themselves? Do you have a reference where you got your information?

Finally, if you want to continue editing mathematics articles, you might be interested in the mathematics WikiProject, and perhaps even list yourself on the list of participants. Cheers, Jitse Niesen 00:38, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

About the Wilkinson's polynomial: it is true that zeros are better conditionned when any polynomial (with distinct roots!) is expressed in its Lagrange form. I added this fact here because it seemed appropriate for 2 reasons:

this polynomial is usually defined by its lagrange form
its zeros are very ill-conditionned in the power basis form

But you might be right when saying it is not the best place to talk about the subject of conditionning of roots of polynomials (which doesn't seem to be treated anywhere...). Maybe we should create a new page on this topic (or a related topic).

My information comes from my own end-of-study work so we should find another source to cite (but I don't know any).

Thanks for your attention and corrections...Julien Tuerlinckx 13:04, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I agree that it is a nice fact to include in Wilkinson's polynomial. However, the language suggested to me that it is deeper and more important than that it appears to me to be; I cannot pinpoint my concerns exactly. I would be very happy if you could write something about the conditioning of roots of polynomials. It can either be added at the end of root-finding algorithm, or, if it becomes too big for that, we can create a new article like stability of roots of polynomials. -- Jitse Niesen 13:27, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

On second thought, the claim that the roots are well-conditioned when the polynomial is considered in Lagrange form is not so straightforward. I'd be interested to see the proof. -- Jitse Niesen 14:10, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

An anomymous user changed the examples on stable polynomial, claiming that they were incorrect. However, I could not see a mistake in them. I asked for clarification on the user's talk page, User talk:212.18.24.11, but I do not feel confident enough to revert the "correction" myself. Perhaps you could have a look? -- Jitse Niesen 13:02, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. -- An embarassed Jitse Niesen 13:44, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hi, just noticed there was a page named Routh Hurwitz Stability Criterion. What should we do about that? Julien Tuerlinckx 12:21, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I don't know that much control theory, so I have no idea what condition this refers to. Do you know what the Routh-Hurwitz stability criterion is? There are two possibilities: either you expand the article, in which case it should probably be moved to Routh-Hurwitz stability criterion, or you merge it into stable polynomial (see Wikipedia:Merge). You may also want to talk with User:Linuxlad and User:Wknight8111, which were apparently involved in the creation of the article. By the way, I haven't had time to study your proof yet. Jitse Niesen 13:10, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

hey, thanks for the message. the idea of merging the articals is an interesting one, but i would worry that we lose the ability to go in-depth on every subject. in addition, i have also written an artical on the Nyquist Criterion, and if we merge one artical, we might have to merge them all.

I think perhaps that we should not merge the articals, but instead link the articals together, and flesh them all out (the routh-hurwitz artical is sorely lacking). --Whiteknight 01:26, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No strong feelings on this - thanks for keeping me informed. Bob aka Linuxlad

[edit] Root sensitivity

Let p be a polynomial of degree n. We are looking for the condition number of the map $f:u\mapsto f(u)=\xi$ at the point u, where u is the vector of coefficients of the given polynomial p (in a certain polynomial basis q) and $ξ$ is the vector of roots of p. The condition number is known to be:

$\kappa(f,u,q)=\frac{\|u\|}{\|\xi\|}\|D^{-1}V_q\|,$

where D is the diagonal matrix with entries equal to $D i i = p'(ξ i)$ and V_q is the generalized Vandermonde matrix (each column is a basis vector --- e.g. $x i$ if q is the power basis --- evaluated at each root). You can consult for example Gautschi, Questions of numerical condition related to polynomials, or calcultate it by evaluating the Jacobian of f (which equals the matricial product in the formula above). Remark that D is a n times n matrix while the Vdmonde is a n times n+1.

If q is the power basis (say q=r), $V q$ becomes the traditionnal Vandermonde matrix. If q is the Lagrange basis (say q=q), the generalized Vdmonde is the identity (and last column equals 0). We have:

$\|D^{-1}\|\leq \|D^{-1}V\|,$

since D is diagonal (at least for the infinity norm). Since we can choose arbitrary a point y distinct from each root of p as additionnal interpolation point, it is always possible to choose it such that:

$|p(y)|\leq \|u\|.$

For example, if we consider the infinity norm, the point y=0 is always a such point unless it is already a root of p. In this case, one can take a point y near zero. All in all:

$\frac{|p(y)|}{\|\xi\|}\|D^{-1}\|\leq \frac{\|u\|}{\|\xi\|}\|D^{-1}V\|.$

[edit] Edit summary

Hi Julien. You are doing great work. But I have a favor to ask. Would you mind putting an edit summary? That is helpful when other people see your changes on their watchlist; it sort of works like the "Subject" line in an e-mail. That would be much appreciated. Thank you, Oleg Alexandrov 22:14, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lebesgue constant

Some remarks prompted by your creation of Lebesgue's lemma and Lebesgue constant (interpolation):

We avoid the creation of PNG images in running text, see Wikipedia:How to write a Wikipedia article on Mathematics.
On the other hand, I (and many others) like to force displayed formulas (what you would write as $$...$$ in TeX) to be displayed as images, by adding \, to the formulas where necessary.
We prefer singular nouns for titles, see Wikipedia:Naming conventions, so I moved Lebesgue constants (interpolation) to Lebesgue constant (interpolation).
I don't understand this bit:

"This is asymptotically optimal, because for any set of interpolation nodes we have the bound

$\frac{2}{\pi} \log(n+1)+a < \Lambda_n(T) < \frac{2}{\pi} \log(n+1) + 1,$

where a = 0.9625…."

As you say, the Lebesgue constants grow exponentially for equidistant nodes. How do I square that with the above statement that the constant grow logarithmically for any set of nodes?

Keep up the good work! Cheers, Jitse Niesen 01:21, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

PS: I hope you will soon know what to do with Routh-Hurwitz stability criterion and Routh-Hurwitz theorem. I guess they should be combined into one article, but I am not sure because neither article does a great job in explaining what it is about. Please keep in mind that most articles are read most of the time by non-specialists (see also Oleg's edit remarks). As you might already have guessed, I'm of the opinion that it's more important for Wikipedia at the moment to improve the articles we have, then to write many new articles. -- Jitse Niesen 01:43, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lagrange polynomial

Great work! Thanks Dysprosia 12:15, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Belgian football

Julien_Tuerlinckx said: Hi bobo. I just wanted to thank you for your corrections in articles about belgian football. I definitely needed someone to correct my articles so keep on the good work and keep an eye on those articles. Cheers Julien Tuerlinckx

Don't worry about it. The changes are very minor and alter the readability of the articles only slightly. Is it you who has set up most of the articles on this subject, then? If so, this is some very good work you've been doing. It's surprising how badly Belgian football is covered over here in this country. Thank you. Bobo192|Edits

- Julien Tuerlinckx, you are doing an absolutely fantastic job. Keep up the good work. Punkmorten 18:33, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Kind of Blue

Well done — you spotted my deliberate mistake...

Ahem, well, OK, no; thanks for picking that up. I went over that infobox again and again to make sure that I'd made all the changes, and there was Mingus staring me in the face. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 08:19, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Moret / Moretus

Hi Julien, thanks for your comments on my talk page. I wasn't sure which the correct name was, and so searched on Google for both names - and Moretus came up a lot more. As you're clearly Belgian, and would know more about this than I do, I'll move it back. All the best. Proto t c 12:44, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] More Belgian football

Hi again. If you want something to do, you could always fill out the redlinks for Belgian players at Football World Cup 1994 (squads)#Belgium & Morocco and Football World Cup 1998 (squads)#Belgium :)

Punkmorten 11:11, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

and 2000 European Football Championship (squads)#Belgium ;) - Punkmorten 15:32, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Belgium

Dear Julien, It seems you are interested in the Belgium article. I have put the article for peer review. I would like to see this article featured. Do you think it is now ripe for that. Please tell your mind on the peer review page page. And if you like it don't forget to support it when it will come to be featured article candidate. Thank you. Vb 09:31, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Trappist beers

The edit you reverted did specifically say something had changed in October 2005. Now I havent heard anything (and without a source its not much use). But I will ask around. The user was logged in from Lille, which is more plausible than some locations... Justinc 16:38, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

ok, had missed all the history. However I have had independent verification from a neutral Belgian beer expert that La Trappe has been restored to the fold (see [1] Justinc 22:19, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

also on [2] now. I am entirely sympathetic with your view, and all these anon IPs were unhelpful. But Joris has written or cowritten several books on Belgian beer and I trust him. I dont like the attitude of the other guy, and anon IPs suck, but revert wars need facts. I would like to hear from him. Please try to be nice if he reverts things in the future, and despite the past try to engage. Maybe this is the only issue that causes conflict and now there is peace in Trappistland we can sort out the conflicts. I edited the article as someone neutral, and suggest you leave it for a few weeks as is in the interests of peace keeping, regardless of what you think of the current state. Justinc 23:11, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Routh-Hurwitz

you left me a message on my user page on June 18, and i replied on my talk page, although i doubt you will check it after all this time. I understand your idea about fusing the Routh-Hurwitz artical and the Polynomial Stability Artical, although i don't think that we should necessarily fuse the two. An artical on Polynomial Stability, if it were to encompass every stability requirement, every stability test, and all the techniques for testing stability would eventually become so large that it would need to be forked in sub articals anyway. If we included Routh-Hurwitz in the Polynomial Stability Artical, we would need to include Root-Locus analysis, Nyquist criteria, and various frequency-domain stability tests. I think that it would be better to keep these things separate.

On a side note, I am laying the ground-work for a comprehensive Electrical Engineering Curriculum (of sorts) at wikibooks (My Wikibooks Profile), and would like to include topics on Polynomial stability, Routh-Hurwitz, Root-Locus, Nyquist, etc in a book on "Stability Theory" or "Control Systems". We've only managed to start some basic books on simple circuits so far, but we would like to expand the bookshelf. If you are interested in helping with this project, swing by wikibooks, and see what you can help out with. --Whiteknight 20:05, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

Hi Julien!

Thanks for your kind words, I am now working on Seasons in Argentine football, you might be interested. :)

The only reason for me to revert your changes is that all the players now look kind of ugly without the info, and those kind of stats for the "current" year change so fast that is very difficult to keep up to date. I do like the "Honors" section, in which we can specify individual honors (Golden Boot, World Champion, UEFA Champions League Champion, etc...) because they don't require the same amount of effort to maintain current.

Can you imagine if you add 100 footballers that play every sunday and you need to update the "caps" and "goals" on each and every one of them every weekend? It is a little nightmarish. :)

Let's keep on working on the template, I think it will look great once we finish! :)

--Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 15:18, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Belgian Ebony Shoe

Please do some extra research before stating the award wasn't decided yet ;-)

http://nsf.rsca.be/article.php?language=fr&aid=13588&menu=1

Vincent Kompany Soulier d'Ebène 20-05-2005, 21:19 (lu 2506 fois)

La valse des prix continue pour Vincent Kompany, après le Soulier d’Or et le joueur pro de l’année notre défenseur vient de se voir attribuer pour la seconde fois le Soulier d’Ebène. Ce prix est décerné chaque saison au meilleur joueur d’origine Africaine.

I did however make i mistake on Vincent Kompany by adding 2005 to the Golden Shoe box instead of Ebony Shoe box, but fixed it now.

greetz --LimoWreck 13:30, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Cheik ismael tiote.jpg

What is your source for the fact that is image is in the public domain? Thue | talk 13:50, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi Thue, actually I have no sources for this. As you may have seen, I uploaded a photo of (nearly) each current Anderlecht player from the same site, all with the mention "public domain".

So maybe those pictures are not welcome on wikipedia cause I don't know the policy for adding images here. Some months earlier I requested the webmaster of RSCA website to let me add those pictures on wikipedia but he didn't reply to me. As says the motto: Cum tacent consentiunt. Cheers, Julien Tuerlinckx 15:39, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

You can most definently not assume images are public domain just because somebody fails to return an email! The images may be {{fairuse}}; I strongly suggest you go change the PD license of all the footballers to fairuse instead. Thue | talk 15:48, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi, I did modify the licensing for all those pictures I was talking about (I've put fairuse in for each article), but don't you know a way to get a list of all the files I've uploaded? It would permit me to be sure I did not forget one or more pictures... Thanx, Julien Tuerlinckx 17:10, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

A list of all your edits in the image: space is here: [3]. (go to "user contributions" and select "image:" from the drop-down box) Thue | talk 17:40, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Frutos

Julien:

He is a good striker, not particularly of my liking but he is/was leading the scorer's table at the time of his transfer. He has a good "smell" for the ball and scores often but I don't think he is of "national team" caliber, at least not yet.

--Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 23:45, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Football squad (club brugge)

hi, thanks for the hint, I will check that squad layout some time soon -- hope i don't forget ;-) , when i'm done with some work on the nl-wikipedia. Regards, and keep up the good work on keeping an eye on the belgian football-related articles here.

[edit] Belgian Football in Second Division

hi, you're right I've made a mistake with the positions of the teams that are currently in second division. I'll correct them immediately. Thanks for informing me about my mistake.

--LimoWreck 02:04, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sources for K.S.V. Waterschei Thor

Hello, good work on K.S.V. Waterschei Thor, and thanks for the contribution. However, you forgot to add any references to the article. Keeping Wikipedia accurate and verifiable is very important, and there is currently a push to encourage editors to cite the sources they used when adding content. What websites, books, or other places did you learn the information that you added to K.S.V. Waterschei Thor? Would it be possible for you to mention them in the article? Thank you very much. - SimonP 04:44, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Chaussée d'Haecht > Chaussée d'Emirdag

Dear Julien, just take a look at article "Emirdağ" in Turkish Wikipedia. The second paragraph includes the assertion. Best Regards. User:Behemoth

[edit] A redirect

Hi! We should have K.R.C. Harelbeke as a redirect page, but where should it point? K.R.C. Zuid-West-Vlaanderen or Sporting West Ingelmunster-Harelbeke? Punkmorten 21:02, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Article improvement drive

Hi Julien Tuerlinckx,

The Football AID is restarting. The next project article is to be selected on January 1, 2006. Please look at the nominations and take part actively. Thanks. -Aabha (talk) 10:40, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Date of Birth format

I regard it as an improvement when the place of birth is mentioned. Now I have to look in the article and sometimes place of birth and nationality is unknown. Can you agree with Name (born Place, Date)? That format only adds "Place," from your format. I will copy this remark to the discussion page of Jean Bourgain. Otto ter Haar 09:13, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summary

Hmm, sometimes I do add an edit summary, esp. on popular pages, but indeed, I tend to forget those; maybe because I primarily use the edit diff. to see what people have changed ;-) But I'll try to remember. Anyway, keep up the good work on Belgian football on this en-wiki, it's a great inspiration for the nl-wiki version, and sometimes I'll try to contribute here if possible. Regards --LimoWreck 19:35, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

as an example of a bad start, I just forgot to add one when making the previous addition ;-) --LimoWreck 19:38, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Belgian National Team qualifying streak

Hi, I don't know if you've ever noticed these remarks, I tried to answer it months ago, just remembered now... Talk:Belgium national football team ? Maybe you have any ideas to clear this up ? --LimoWreck 13:35, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brussels Metro

Salut, Julien! I just discovered your excellent additions on various Brussels Metro stations. Kudos, or as you would say, chapeau. You have inspired me to make a few contributions of my own, including Sainte Catherine, Kraainem/Crainhem, and Delta stations so far. I have also taken the liberty of adjusting some of your technical language, which occasionally betrayed the fact that your native language is French, not English. For instance, you often used the phrase "the station is crossed by lines X and Y." Although "crossed" can often be translated traversé, it does not always follow quite the same usage. I have usually replaced it with "served" (desservi), which sounds less odd to a native English speaker. I hope you don't mind my recasting your English; je suis sûre que vous pourriez faire de même pour ma français :-) Vremya 02:37, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for being so gracious about my changing your language. This is not the first time I've noticed that les francophones semblent plus polis que les anglophones in this regard. Perhaps trop poli pour être au Nèthe ;-) as my great-great-grandfather, a Wallon émigré au Campine, might have said, although there is only hearsay evidence that he was an inveterate punster. And while we're on the subject anyway, to answer your personal question: Although I have lived in Chicago and Finland and am now living in Texas, I was born in Belgium and spent about 27 years of my life there. I went to school in Brussels for 6 years and I worked for a while at the military hospital in Neder-Over-Heembeek, which is where I learned most of my French, as I was the only Dutch speaker in my department. For a long time, my daily commute included a change at Kraainem station from a bus of De Lijn to the metro (hence my particular knowledge of that station). I was not familiar with the BSubWay website, but I appreciate your drawing my attention to it. A lot of my knowledge about the Brussels Metro I acquired as a subscriber to a periodical called Tram 2000; I don't know if it still exists or not. Also, one of my personal friends worked (and for all I know still works) at the STIB/MIVB traffic control center at Parc, and he often told me interesting stuff about the metro (like the fact that the curve just before Ste. Catherine is the sharpest on the system). Which brings me to your remaining question about Saint Catherine metro station, as the article is currently called. Although I agree that it might be a good idea to move the page, I do not think that an English style change is the best solution. The metro stations of Brussels have official names in French and Dutch, so it seems most reasonable to use these names whenever possible (as has been done already for Crainhem/Kraainem metro station, for instance). In other words, If you want to move the page, it seems most logical to me to rename it "Sainte Catherine/Sint Katelijne metro station" in accord with the names that the station carries in the real world. Incidentally, while we're talking about renaming anyway, it has occurred to me that at the moment there seems to be another kind of inconsistency in some of the Brussels Metro station names: Whereas the names of the articles for Parc metro station and Beekkant metro station (not yet created, but listed thus in the templates), for example, include the word "metro," the pages for De Brouckère station and Montgomery station (and the Delta station article that I created from the template link) do not include the word "metro." Except for a small number of special cases (such as Schuman station, which describes both the SNCB/NMBS and STIB/MIVB stations), I think it would be better to standardize on the "metro station" style (for example, moving "De Brouckère station" to "De Brouckère metro station"). What's your opinion? Vremya 09:13, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for elaborating on the reasoning behind your choices. On the bilingual issue, I decided to explain my opinions in a wider forum, so other people could comment on it as well. In a nutshell, my personal take is that the bilingual naming of stations is the only truly neutral policy and therefore the policy best suited for Wikipedia. With regard to your technical concern about slashes, the obvious solution is to use a different type of separator, such as an em dash (e.g., "Sainte Catherine/Sint Katelijne" would become "Sainte Catherine — Sint Katelijne").

Finally, pertaining to the "metro station" issue, although I can sort of understand the reasoning behind the distinction of underground "metro stations" versus above-ground "stations," the distinction strikes me as rather artificial and difficult to implement. For example, although certain Brussels Metro stations such as Pétillon are flanked by open stretches of surface track, the stations themselves are invariably covered structures that are at least somewhat protected from the elements. This is arguably true even for stations like Demey and Erasme/Erasmus that were built specifically to give an open and airy feel (unlike, say, Villette station in Charleroi, which provides very little protection against the weather). Conversely, there is at least one station (Alma) that is arguably a surface station although it is flanked on both sides by tunnel sections. Thus I don't think the distinction is particularly helpful. As a matter of fact, on closer reflection, the thing that bothered me most about the omission of "metro" turns out to be a completely different issue: that of ambiguity. I can think of at least one real-world example where the term would be ambiguous either way: "Diamant metro station" is not only a place in Brussels; there is also a (pre)metro station of the same name in Antwerp. Thus it occurs to me that maybe a better convention would be to append a specific "Brussels Metro" tag to every station name: for example, "Delta station (Brussels Metro)." This practice has been used for disambiguation elsewhere, and it has the advantage of being both totally unambiguous and easy to implement (it might require some more work to begin with, but it would only need to be done once). What's your take? Vremya 00:08, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for clarifying your reasoning for using "metro station" versus "premetro station"; I had indeed failed to understand your rationale in that way. My only concern is that such a designation would be at least theoretically unstable, because the very concept of premetro implies that there is at least a hypothetical prospect that these stations might someday be converted to full metro service. For instance, before 1988, the correct designation for "Madou metro station" would have been "Madou premetro station"; after that date, the reverse would be the case. Similarly, it is quite conceivable that at some date in the future (perhaps after extension towards Schaerbeek and Haren on the one hand and towards Uccle and Stalle on the other), the North-South Axis might be converted to full metro, in which case all the stations on this axis would have to be redesignated "metro" instead of "premetro." Note that this possibility might not be as farfetched as it sounds, in view of the ever increasing weight given to line 3 on the North-South Axis (you may recall a similar phenomenon with the old tram line 2 before the conversion of the Inner Ring to full metro). Then again, I concede that such a change would only have to be made once, so it may be no big deal.

With regard to using a different separator than the slash for double-named stations, I'm glad we seem to be in agreement here. I would make the change myself right now, except I'm not sure if, now that the question has been fielded in a broader context, it would be good etiquette to wait for further input from others who may wish to comment (and if so, how long would we have to wait before assuming consensus if no one else responds?) Vremya 01:04, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template talk:Football player infobox

Hi Julien, we were having a small friendly discussion of whether to have links in the infobox or not - would you please give us your view on that? (seeing as you're the creator and all..) Poulsen 21:41, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] R.S.C. Anderlecht

Good Luck with your new players Biglia and specially Leiva, we will miss him.- Jor70 22:59, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi Julien!, could you give me a little debriefing of their first months with the club? thank you! Jor70 10:41, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Belgian Referees

Hi, could you tell me something about De Bleeckere and linemans Hermans and Vromans. They were choosen for the Argentina-Ivori Coast game of next saturday. thks. Jor70 15:34, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I think he was a little in favour with some of our players, but perhaps these are the new FIFA rules.- Jor70 12:38, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion

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[edit] Wilkinson's polynomial

Is it possible to be even more precise regarding the Lagrange polynomial? Is it for instance true that a change in coefficients is now referring to coefficients expressed in a different basis?

And are there root-finding methods for which expressing in a Lagrange basis is indeed relevant? Bob.v.R 18:02, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Belgian football Bribing/Gambling scandal 2006

I couldn't seem to find anything on the english wiki about this, and with the italian scandal recently popping up it could be interesting to explain this also. I've tried to translate from the dutch wiki, but I'm not too hapy with the result so far, feel free to have a look at User:Pelotas/todo and continue from where I left off. --Pelotas^talk 22:03, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vlaams Blok trial

Hi, you have been editing the Vlaams Belang and Vlaams Blok articles in the past. Could I ask you a question ?

I was thinking of starting an article on the Vlaams Blok trial, to explore the trial a little more indepth, and to which could be linked from the Vlaams Belang and Vlaams Blok pages. What would you think about that ?

I'm afraid I would just be creating another battle-ground. On the other hand, the information on the trial in the present articles is rather limited.--LucVerhelst 17:06, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply.--LucVerhelst 21:47, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Belgium

Bonjour,

j'ai pris l'initiative de créer WikiProject Belgium, si tu veux contribuer vous êtes vraiment bienvenu! Je crains un peu que nous manquons des contribueurs Wallons et Francophones... Est-ce que vous êtes interessé à le coordiner avec moi, j'aimerais bien qu'un Francophone me joindrait... Vos contributions me disent que le project serait vraiment quelque chose pour vous.

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[edit] WP Munich

Hello,

You are invited to join WikiProject Munich!

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[edit] Brasserie à vapeur

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[edit] WikiProject France

Hello! We are a group of editors working to improve the quality of France related articles. You look like someone who might be interested in joining us in the France WikiProject and so I thought I'd drop you a line and invite you! We'd love to have you in our project :-) STTW (talk) 21:28, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

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James Milner Career section Not really asking for full feedback on this article (although I wouldn’t mind it). I’d just like to know what you feel the best way the divide up the Career section is, by Club, by season, not at all or some other way. Please leave your reply under the section in my talk page named “Milner Career section”. Buc 16:27, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Infobox football bio

Hi, I was making some player bios and noticed that the 'nickname' was not showing up in the infobox. When I checked the template for it I realized that there is no nickname section?! I don't know how that got in there nor do I remember where I found this incorrect version. For example see Luigi Allemandi. Libro0 (talk) 21:49, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Disregard above. I just read the discussion on the template and saw that 'nickname' had been removed after consensus. Libro0 (talk) 21:58, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

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