Talk:Julio Cortázar

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[edit] Born the same year as William Burroughs???

Why is this little factoid included in the first paragraph of this article? Its unnecessary, irrelevant, and distracting. 24.22.19.126 05:35, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

  • What about american people who don't know anything about Julio Cortázar, at least we have to show them something. Some sort of connection. (Evendeeper 11:58, 14 November 2007 (UTC))
    • Wikipedia is about Educating the Next Generation; both William Burroughs and Julio Cortázar were two of the best writers of a key generation. I think the factoid really helps. (Soap Bar II (talk) 21:24, 17 November 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Aurora Bernárdez, Ugné Karvelis and Carol Dunlop

We need more information about these three girls in regards to Julio Cortázar and their life accomplishments as writers, translators and human rights activists. (Evendeeper 11:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC))

  • Also his relationship with European and North American artists (film directors, painters, musicians) will be great! (Soap Bar II (talk) 21:33, 17 November 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Clear Cuts and One Pointers (First Stage)

First, let me begin by clear stating some facts about Julio Cortázar:

  • The reported causes and rumors about his demise are no longer relevant to this article
  • It's negative, unsubstantial, awfully distorted, abusive, non-verifiable, entirely notional and a possible urban myth
  • The whole dispute is about indirect advertising to several writers who think they might know the real truth
  • Blow-up and Other Stories was originally published as End of the Game and Other Stories
  • The title was changed to tie it to the Michelangelo Antonioni film Blowup which in fact was inspired by Julio Cortázar
  • Cortázar left Argentina in 1951 because he got a fellowship from the French government and he wanted to pursue his literary/artistic career in Paris
  • He also felt discontent with the social / political / cultural situation of Latin America as a whole, not only Perón
  • As an artist you always have two options: its either Paris or New York (no matter where you come from)
  • "Cortázar was a man under no nation, only humans."
  • Cortázar was highly influenced by Surrealism, Jules Verne, Dada, the Avant-garde and Downtown music
  • He was very attached to artists, paintors, writers, musicians and directors living in Paris at the time
  • He influenced many artists in New York during the 1960s
  • His relationship with Gregory Rabassa was predetermined with the objective of reproducing his work into English
  • To translate, in majestic fashion, his contribution to postmodern literature, not only spanish writing
  • Cortázar worked in UNESCO, he was Pro-Human Rights and Anti-Military/Political/Economic/Media Intervention
  • He only believed in Love, Equality, Diplomacy, Art, Humanity and Educating the New Generation
  • Yes, he went to Nicaragua, to help stop the holocaust, it had happened before, yes, with the Jews and Japanese during WWII and then Vietnam
(Webb Traverse 13:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Clear Cuts and One Pointers (Response)

Response STARTS here (Webb Traverse 13:34, 14 November 2007 (UTC))

  • What about the gossip about him passing away in Nicaragua and then having his body translated to Paris to be burried next to Carol. I also heard she had contracted aids from a blood transfusion while doing activist work in Nicaragua and then passed it on to Julio who was very concerned about North American Intervention in other countries and their new use of biological weapons as a method of counter-attacking third world nations. The same thing happened in Vietnam with Agent Orange as part of the U.S. warefare program during the war. (Evendeeper 14:02, 14 November 2007 (UTC))
    • If this is true then, he indeed love Carol very much. Man, just drop the subject here. I truly believe you are in the need of some visual aids. Again, the reported causes and rumors about his demise are no longer relevant to this article, it's negative, unsubstantial, abusive, non-verifiable and entirely notional. (Webb Traverse 14:14, 14 November 2007 (UTC))
  • One minor point about End of the Game / Blow-Up: It's correct that the paperback version of the book was retitled to tie-in with the Antonioni film, but even in the first edition American hardcover the story itself is called "Blow-Up." Since that is not a translation of the original title ("Las babas del diablo"), it's likely that the publisher and translator chose to use Antonioni's title for that story to tie-in to the movie, which had been released the previous year. At least one subsequent US reprint of the book (Harper Colophon, 1978) reverted to the original hardcover title of the collection.Chris k (talk) 00:27, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Official Julio Cortázar Wiki!!!

I heard rumors about the future plan of building a Wiki project for Julio. Is it true? Anyways, I went to www.JulioCortazarWiki.com and it seems it might be true. (Evendeeper (talk) 07:12, 18 November 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Unoderayuela.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:13, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] End of the Game first US edition date

There is some confusion about the date of the US hardcover edition of End of the Game. The article says 1963, but the copy of the book that I have examined, which says "first printing," says "copyright, 1967, 1963 by Random House, Inc." and has a code on the dust jacket indicating that it was published in June 1967. I suspect that 1967 is in fact correct and that 1963 was a copyright date for some portion of the contents published in advance of the actual book -- but I'm not sure.Chris k (talk) 00:38, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Further digging indicates that the above is correct -- the book was not published until 1967. See Cartas, tomo II, letters to Sara and paul Blackburn, p. 1081, 1143 etc.Chris k (talk) 01:48, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Interesting, thanks Chris! Anyways... do you have info on Julio's relationship with film directors during the 60s (Webb Traverse (talk) 23:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Dosderayuela.jpg

Image:Dosderayuela.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:16, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stop Vandalism on the Julio Cortázar Page

I will start to report every user who keeps vandalizing this page for non-sense reasons, thanks (Webb Traverse (talk) 23:35, 4 December 2007 (UTC))

Is it me, or has the link to the 'official Julio Cortazar wiki' been vandalised at a point during the past? At the moment it links to the Wikipedia article on UNESCO. Paul20070 (talk) 21:06, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Blow-up the movie was after the cortazar story, not vice versa

It is unclear, in the article, which was made first. It does not clearly explain that Cortzar changed the name of the English version after the movie came out. This article is a mess and needs to be re-written. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.133.44.92 (talk) 21:37, 2 February 2008 (UTC)