Talk:Julian Wagstaff

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This article was nominated for deletion on October 30 2006. The result of the discussion was keep.

This is self publicity. These are works performed by amateur groups. The support articles are from students and friends. This guy is a student, who writes good web pages about himself, but not a composer on an national or international scale. Ask his lecturers!! (who do not have entries!)

False — Nigel Osborne Michael Fourman 05

32, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone outside of Edinburgh rate his works ? The reviews I have seen have been not been great. Hype over substance. The deletion discussion should be reopened.

Feynman314 00:42, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree: this person is completely unknown and his entry should be removed

I also agree that the deletion discussion should be reopened. This person does not have a profile worthy of a wikipedia entry. He is a student with some local performances and an over-inflated ego - that's all! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vokram (talk • contribs) 20:58, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Vokram 21:01, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, this needs to be removed. By the way, Michael Fourman is not one of his lecturers; though he is presumably linked to Wagstaff through the "Turing Test" business. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.76.1.62 (talk) 19:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

This page was kept previously on the grounds that the composer has published works. Simply following the links to those works results in a number of titles that are self published. This is exactly what wikipedia is not: a place in which to self-promote and egotistically claim to be reputable. Also, those performances of previous works were largely undertaken on by amateur student societies such as Edinburgh Studio Opera, and self-produced. Simply having a performance at the Edinburgh Festival Fringe and reviews in the fringe press is not enough to amount to being a respected composer.Lukedrummond 18:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

The Guardian, The Scotsman, The Daily Telegraph, The Herald, The Stage, British Theatre Guide etc are not Fringe press. The Edinburgh Quartet are not an amateur ensemble. Circular Records are an established independent label unconnected with the composer (apart from the fact they have published his work). Frontiers and Bridges is not a vanity release, it contains the work of other composers in addition to the subject of the article under discussion 81.155.35.135 (talk) 22:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC)