Talk:Jules Shear

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More information about this article... The following comments have been left for this page: The previous poster asked about sources. Why? Sources are required for ALL wikipedia articles. Writers must, according to the guidelines, cite reputable third-party sources, attributing all information. It could be an article in Rolling Stone, perhaps a link to a previously published article on a newspaper website. Those are credible sources. 128.111.56.35 (talk) 22:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC) (edit)

[edit] Sources? For what?

I added a great deal of content to this article last year (and it's since been improved upon by others). What sort of statements in this article require sources? Most of the information in this article just comes from the credits of various albums. Does anyone find any part of this article doubtful? Examples? --63.25.24.52 13:53, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

In that case, I think that you are meant to reference the albums then.

The previous poster asked about sources. Why? Sources are required for ALL wikipedia articles. Writers must, according to the guidelines, cite reputable third-party sources, attributing all information. It could be an article in Rolling Stone, perhaps a link to a previously published article on a newspaper website. Those are credible sources. 128.111.56.35 (talk) 22:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I said, "Most of the information in this article just comes from the credits of various albums. " -- and I meant it. 98% of my contributions are along the lines of "Watch Dog was produced by Todd Rundgren and featured Elliot Easton on guitar.", or "Shear co-wrote the title track to Aimee Mann's Everything's Different Now with Matthew Sweet." Do you get it now? There's no "article in Rolling Stone", or anywhere else, for chrissakes -- it's just the simple fact that Shear has worked with so many notable figures (and sometimes written hit songs for them) -- and it all comes from the credits of the albums. It's patently ridiculous to insist on citations for such things. Is there any citation in the Beatles article that Billy Preston played keyboards on "Get Back"? Sure, you could find hundreds of articles that mention the fact, but is there a citation for the fact itself?

Besides . . . how do you cite an album, anyway? Wouldn't that just amount to re-listing the discography in a References section? I'll do it . . . if no one minds the article looking like shit. . . .

--63.25.11.98 (talk) 05:03, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Trap Door EP and a Great Puzzle note.

In the "Notes" section (which shouldn't be a "Notes" section, but I don't know how to fix it all up), it might (or might not) be worthy to name the three previously-unreleased songs on The Trap Door EP, since that disc is almost surely out of print. According to Answers.com, they are: "His Audience Has Gone To Sleep"; "She Makes Things Happen"; and "Nothing Is Left Behind". I'll let somebody else make the decision about including this info.

Also, I discovered one of my own errors: Polar Bear guitarist Richard Bredice was NOT on The Great Puzzle. Two other dudes named Richard were slinging axes on that one, and I believe Bredice IS on The Eternal Return (but I'd have to dig out my box of LPs to be sure), so my mind mixed the two together. I should NOT have been relying on my mind in the first place. My apologies. --63.25.244.230 18:23, 11 October 2007 (UTC)