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[edit] Knut (polar bear)

I'm not sure if I understand this comment you made on the TFA page in regards to Knut (polar bear) and I would like further clarification, if you do not mind. If I remember correctly, you only nominated the article for GAN ("helped evaluate" hardly covers it; there's no reason to take credit where credit is not due), but are you implying that it is not deserving of "FA treatment"? I'm honestly baffled -- and somewhat insulted. As far as first FAs go, I believe it's a rather strong article and I'm proud of it. I'm curious as to your reason for implying that it does not deserve its gold star. María (habla conmigo) 19:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I get your point; I believe I took your comment out of context, so I apologize for that. I wanted to stay out of this battle mainly because I'm torn as to my alliances (main page diversity or fair treatment of subjects?), but your comment took me off guard and I lost track of the discussion. I think some of these "eccentric" articles make it to the main page quicker and easier than others because there's nothing like them represented in the other FAs to cause a problem with diversity; unless Flocke (polar bear) becomes featured and eligible for TFA soon, Knut will be the only individual polar bear (or animal, for that matter) on the main page for a long time. And, besides, I didn't nominate him for TFA. :) Good luck defending the VGs, though; I can see how the argument can go your way. María (habla conmigo) 19:41, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Castlevania: Sorrow series FT

Hello. Given your previously stated interest on seeing a Castlevania: Sorrow series FT, just dropping a note that I've rewritten Alucard (Castlevania) and nominated it for GA status. With three items of featured content (Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow (lead), Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, List of characters in Castlevania: Sorrow series), and ideally two good articles (Soma Cruz and Alucard (Castlevania), hopefully), I see no problems at WP:FTC should this good article nomination pass. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 03:07, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to sleep now, but from a quick look it doesn't look like there will be many concerns- I'll do a full review tomorrow. Cheers, David Fuchs ^(talk) 03:47, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Medal

Thanks. I'll need everything I can get to help get em to the main page. ZeaLitY [ DREAM - REFLECT ] 20:04, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kosovo (UNMIK)

I'm trying to achieve consensus within this article to have it merged. Since you participated in the AfD discussion, the consensus of which is disputed, I wondered if you would like to comment on the new discussion I am holding on the article's talk page. I am contacting all editors who participated in the AfD regardless of their vote in the interest of fairness. - Fritzpoll (talk) 22:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Metroid (series)

Hehe, I know the feeling. I've had my eye on a number of series articles that I'd like to get to FA, mainly the ones that are currently GA. After I hopefully get Wii Sports to FA, I'd like to get started on either the Zelda or Halo series article.

As far as the Metroid article, the structure in the "Overview" section and the whole article seems fine enough. Though I would reformat the story section to very condensed prose. Since all the games are part of a broader story, I'd use Kingdom Hearts (series)#Story as an example. The characters sections probably needs to be condensed, and I'd get rid of the bold names as they violate MoS. Those are the main things that jump out at me at first glance. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 22:58, 19 February 2008 (UTC))

I would do it chronologically. Others may disagree, but I feel it is the best way to give the overall plot of the whole series. Of course, keep the mention of how the games were not released in chronological order. My two cents. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 23:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Re:Alucard

Thanks. I'm unsure whether I want to try to FAC or not, but that seems to be a possible future endeavor. The only thing I believe would need to be added is an "Attributes" section of sorts (see Cortana#Attributes, Master Chief (Halo)#Attributes, Dante (Devil May Cry)#Characteristics). With a little copy-editing after that, I can see it succeeding. I'm more unsure about Soma Cruz, but the article would be really as complete as can be with an aforementioned "Attributes" section. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 19:55, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Dear Judgesurreal777, thank you for the kind words you posted here and here. I have followed your suggestion and continued building up the article. One quick question, though: I believe that when an editor changes his vote/argument in a discussion, then the first post should be struck out (not removed, but struck out as others seemed to have done in the discussion; see here and here as examples). Again, thank you for being open-minded and for re-examining the article based on its improvements. Sincerley, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 20:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free image (Image:Cdvoyageofbran.jpg)

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[edit] Metroid Prime

That's the second time I wasn't bold enough to nominate an article. But ok, already put my co-nomination and support, and I'll A)fix everything I can that people ask there and B)do some work on this one you nominated for the GA. And I have two stars on the FA list, you can get your second. I'll try my best to earn a third someday. Cheers. igordebraga ≠ 22:36, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Which reference? Make yourself clear. igordebraga ≠ 04:56, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, that ref? Metacritic for Prime, detailing how reviews were calling it "best game ever" and such. It's because my edits take long (I research - and distract myself sometimes, but that doesn't matter - before pressing "Submit"), and during the period I was finishing, you were doing LOTS of edits (the same happened to me today to fix simple spelling errors in Metroid Prime), so "edit conflict", and I forgot to transpose from the resulting screen. As for the Morph Ball, well, I gave some words at the FAC, and you fixed the rest. Thanks for all the help in the candidacy. igordebraga ≠ 00:10, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

		The VG Barnstar
		For jumping on me not being bold enough, and fixing most of the FAC requests in the path of FA promotion. igordebraga ≠ 02:13, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

(don't mind if I already put in your Barnstars)

[edit] Unreferenced Tag-List of 24 Characters

Can I ask why you thought it was necessary to tag this article? Would you kindly explain to me why you think it necessary to find a citation, for example, that Jack Bauer is really played by Kiefer Sutherland? WP:PROVEIT states that "All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged should be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation." So, are you challenging the article, or is this just some crazy move? This is not meant to be a personal attack, I just feel this move is ridiculous. If you really want me to find citations, I will gladly do so, however I think you should justify why you placed the tag, and what content is "challengable". If you cannot back up your reasons, the tag will be removed. And it is also polite to create a section on the articles talk page, on why the tag was placed, I see you failed to do so. Please reply on my talk page. The tag will be removed in 48 hours if you cannot justify your actions. Steve Crossin (talk) 03:40, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

There was a specific question I asked, was regarding IMDB. Can I use that to get citations, as in, for characters (eg Kiefer Sutherland as Jack Bauer). I'd like to work on the Final Fantasy X article. Steve Crossin (talk) 04:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I will reply to your comment on my talk page in about 45minutes. Steve Crossin (talk) 04:30, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

An article I do need help on is Karen Hayes. I'm not game enough to delete all the in-universe info, original research and plot info. Would you mind doing this? I just don't know what to keep, what to delete. But try not to be too abrasive about it :) Steve Crossin (talk) 04:34, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I added some references I found on the Karen Hayes talk page. May I suggest a structure similar to the Nadia Yassir article? Also, what is your input on that article? Would you now agree it is notable? I will reply in 30mins. I need to buy some groceries. Steve Crossin (talk) 04:42, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I saw you recently removed the notability tag on the Nadia Yassir article, then placed it back. Wise move. ArbCom has an injunction currently in force, so the removal or adding of notability tags to TV shows, characters, or episodes, is currently not allowed. Steve Crossin (talk) 03:18, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Smash Bros series

That's fine and all, but not every game series page has a reception section. Sonic, Mega Man, and Castlevania don't, to name a few.Satoryu (talk) 04:11, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Metroid Prime

Let me try to explain the issue a little better:

Each FU image needs to contribute significantly to our understanding.

Part of achieving that is clearly defining what that contribution is in the rationale (the purpose).

As both of these images have the same stated purpose, their contributions appear to be redundant (and, thus, in violation the minimal usage requirement).

If each image is indeed contributing something unique, you just need to say what that contribution is in the rationale. On the other hand, if one image isn’t really contributing much more beyond the contribution of the other, it needs to be removed.

Does that make sense? ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 22:19, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I don’t necessarily think either of them need to be removed, by the way; so there's no fight at the end of the day. The rationales just need to tell us what their unique contributions are. ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 22:22, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Well done. Thank you for addressing my concerns. ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 22:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Mana (series)

Hey, I've done about all I can think of on Mana (series). You may want to give it another quick copy edit (or get another pair of eyes) to trim/tweak any of the content I added. It's come a long way from it's GA form. Nice job, I'll see you at it's FAC. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 02:30, 22 February 2008 (UTC))

Congrats on the Mana article passing FA. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 03:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Re: Dodo

I didn't; I removed a bunch of useless trivia and, if I recall correctly, I did not actually add anything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.173.59.5 (talk) 04:56, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fate

Thanks! Good luck on FFXI! --PresN (talk) 20:16, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Castlevania characters FT

Yeah, I know. The biggest problem is what to do with List of Castlevania characters, as I'm clueless as to how we're going to format the list. My initial thoughts go something like this:

Conception/creation/design - my biggest issue is that pre-Kojima stuff has squat in terms of significant sourcing, but we can expand a lot on the actual Kojima stuff, given how dominant it is for most of the series, so it should be alright
Recurring characters (Dracula (Castlevania), Simon Belmont, Alucard (Castlevania), Soma Cruz, maybe Death or some others I'm missing) - fairly easy, as we're just linking to the main articles and leaving summaries
Then each individual game (or series in the case of the Dracula X Chronicles or the Sorrow titles) would get a section, and simply list the characters inside a body of prose. It reduces the burden of having to heavily source individual characters, and whatnot (Characters of Kingdom Hearts#Other characters is generally what I'm thinking of)
Reception - overall reception is a little easier to write here than say List of characters in Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow and Dawn of Sorrow because of the breadth of the series. Grabbing general stuff from everywhere into two to three good paragraphs shouldn't be that difficult

That's the general format I think can work. The biggest problem will be cranking out each section, but it could feasibly be done.

As for the remaining character articles, both Dracula (Castlevania) and Simon Belmont share the problem that it will be difficult to bring up conception/design/whatnot given Dracula's breadth in the series (although it correspondingly makes reception a bit easier but the appearances section tedious) and Simon only being present in the early games. That said, my standards for GA (at least from my perspective) are a bit high, so I might be overstating the difficulty, but it will involve a bit of digging. If List of Castlevania characters does go to FL though, and the remaining character articles to GA, then we should have a topic (consisting of List of Castlevania characters (FL, main article), List of characters in Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow and Dawn of Sorrow (FL), Dracula (Castlevania) (GA), Simon Belmont (GA), Alucard (Castlevania) (GA), Soma Cruz (GA)). A bit of a lofty goal, but it seems possible. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 02:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Blair Witch edits

In the future, you might find that instead of reverting back to a prior version, and chancing losing a lot of info that you will have to replace by hand that you instead got to the version, copy the info that you felt important to the article and paste it - alone - in the current article. Might make it a less messy affair. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 19:02, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Metroid (series)

I have reviewed this article that you have nominated for GA, and I have awarded it GA status. Happy Editing, Epass (talk) 13:33, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

My apologies if it's bad etiquette to use a talk page this way, but I just wanted to say I'd noticed all your hard work on the Metroid series page and thought you did a really good job. Well done on getting the GA, you earned it! Aawood (talk) 12:52, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jason Jones

I think the sections you have are pretty much want we want (although I'm not sure we should phrase it as 'critical reaction' for a person, y'know? I'll take a look at it when I have time. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 15:04, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] WP:ROLL

Hey, Judgesurreal, I've given you the rollback feature, which allows quick reversion of edits by a user, like TW but easier. Since you work on mainspace, I figure I can't go wrong with giving it to you. Just remember, do not use rollback on good faith edits or in an edit war, or the tool may be revoked. If you'd like to test it out, you can head to Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback. Happy editing! bibliomaniac 1 5 I see no changes 05:24, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

Yeah, I need help big time. I'm improving List of characters in 24, but there is an error. Some of the article is getting chopped off. Can you have a look at it please? Steve Crossin (talk) 06:16, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing that, I now have finished my adoption program, thanks. Now next step, at some point, admin coaching :) Steve Crossin (talk) 22:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Final Fantasy XI

Well, I guess you could check www.flikr.com. I'm not sure what to do about licensing tags though. The other option would be to maybe check out some articles on gaming sites to see if they posted anything related to the merchandise. I know famitsu's website does this sometimes. If you can't find anything suitable, then it's no biggie. The absence of an image like that wouldn't be enough to keep it from passing. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 16:43, 6 March 2008 (UTC))

How about adding an image of FFXI's composer Nobuo Uematsu in the audio section? This image would be a good one. The Prince (talk) 21:27, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Final Fantasy XI

I don’t have any additional image concerns, no. Unless the !votes are close, I typically reserve more thorough analysis for articles in categories about which I have more "expertise". If you’d like me to do a thorough check, however, just let me know and I’d be happy to do so. ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 04:25, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm on the case! ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 17:11, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Not really, no. Fair Use, as it pertains to issues of size, is solely concerned with protecting the legal rights of the copyright holder. How easy an image is to see simply isn’t an explicit consideration. Although, I would actually argue that implicit to an image’s ability to contribute to our understanding (necessity per NFCC#8) is our ability to actually see it in the first place. That is, however, an argument governing the “raw” image (i.e. clicking through to the actual image page, e.g. Image:IngameimageFinalFantasyXI.jpg). In regards to the images actually displayed on the FFXI page, the governing guideline is here. Simply stated, it’s best not to define a size, so that the users’ preferences make the determination. The article actually has it just right; if you want larger images, go to your preferences and raise your “thumbnail size” setting in the “Files” tab. ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 19:18, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of Devil May Cry Demons

I have posted some of the quotes from the 1up articles on the deletion discussion to attempt to show notability. They are from

<ref>{{cite web| url=http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pager.offset=1&cId=3165619| title=Previews: Devil May Cry 4| author=James Mielke| publisher=1up.com| date=[[2008-01-28]]| accessdate=2008-02-25}}</ref>
^[1]

However, not only am I horrendously bad at writing reception and development sections, but I have several tests today, and then I'm not sure if I'll have internet this weekend. Could you possibly setup even meager reception and development sections in order to show Percy that the article has notability? If you're busy, that's fine.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 15:50, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

The second ref is a creator interview.

These are the relevant quotes:

"We also had the idea of trying to confuse the lines between demons and angels, devils and gods."
"The angel type characters are really cool. They feel more like what we imagine 'seraphim' to be than we've seen in any other game before."
"Well I'm really happy that you like the angel characters we have created for Devil May Cry 4. I am really proud of how some of these characters turned out. I think my experience at Capcom really helped me to create some interesting things here. When creating games, there is often a request to "make something cool" and my experience has helped me to create designs that are not simply cool in their own right, but cool in the context of the game that they will be appearing in. In the case of Devil May Cry 4, the idea of a religious order brings up a lot of ideas for characters, and the pure, clean image of an angel is very interesting in the world of devil May Cry as well. I was able to really make the angels look cool when contrasted to the equally cool demons of the game. These characters are some of my favorite in the game, and I'm really pleased that you like them!"
"DMC4's enemies come in both big and small sizes, from Berial's immense size to the tiny monsters you fight on regular levels. Are the big bosses the most enjoyable, and which of the game's many bosses is your favorite and why?"
"Designing bosses is certainly a lot of fun, but at the same time it can be a difficult as designing a main character! As I mentioned earlier, the design of Devil May Cry 4 is so closely connected to the gameplay, and that is fact is most apparent when designing enemies. You have to think about how the player will approach each enemy you create. Bosses are really fun but difficult to design as a result. If I had to pick a favorite boss in the game, I think it would be Credo's Angel form. That boss really came together very nicely. I also really like Berial, he is so strong and cool."
"The bigger they come, the harder they fall. The game's bosses are huge. If Berial -- who is featured in the downloadable demo -- is any indication, then consider him 'medium-sized.' Yeah, we were surprised, too, but the development team has obviously taken some cues from the God of War series, increasing the scale of DMC's bosses to WHOA proportions. That makes them all the more fun to cut down to size, though. Just make sure you bring your Depends in case you're not ready for what the game has in store for you. These guys are big."
"The ultimate battle between Heaven and Earth. The angelic and the demonic have never been so forcefully and gracefully portrayed in any of the Devil May Cry games as they are in DMC4. Both Nero and Dante take on a legion of seraphim the likes of which gamers have never seen before, and it puts an interesting spin on what all of our preconceptions of 'good' are in a video game."
"Along the way you will be indulging in the wholesale slaughter of some of the most bizarre looking creatures you will find this side of American McGee's Alice. There are grim reaper phantoms with lethal scythes, fast-moving lizardmen warriors that burst out of the ground in a cloud of dust, cackling ghost witches with what look like giant shears, and life-size marionettes which drop down from their strings to attack you."
"These special powers become particularly useful when you take on the vast demon boss characters, which include a giant lava spider and a skeletal eagle the size of a small jet liner. The game only includes four real bosses, plus Mundus himself, and you will meet each of them three times, but luckily most of them will behave slightly differently each time you fight them, with new locations, powers and strategies to overcome. It's not all good news though. Battling the icky looking nightmare boss does get rather repetitive, and the game in general tails off a bit towards the end. Most of the monsters are introduced in the first half of the game and just become more numerous and more powerful later on, while less attention seems to have gone into the dramatic camera angles in the closing stages of the game."

I'm a bit antsy about doing it now because Percy keeps insisting that showing the notability during the AfD isn't enough, and the page should be deleted if the sections aren't up to code.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 18:41, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I have to finish getting home for spring break (I should be back tomorrow), but then I'll work on getting sources and setting up a rudimentary section. IT'll be crappy, but at least it'll be there.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 03:21, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FFV

I agree with the concern; I don't think both Image:FFV ATB.PNG and Image:Final_Fantasy_V_Active_Time_Battle_screenshot.png‎ are necessary. They're both ATB screens and both in English. The relavent policies would be NFCC#3A ("As few non-free content uses as possible are included in each article") and NFCC#8 (with which you're no doubt familiar). A Japanese language version, alternatively, wouldn't seem to be helpful either, as I suspect the only substantial difference would be the language/alphabet (what understanding would we really gain by seeing Japanese characters?) I actually think Image:Final_Fantasy_V_death_crystal_screenshot.png‎ needs to go, too, as the prose sufficently describes the scene (we all know what a crystal looks like, no?) ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 22:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

My thoughts were that we see the character sprite(s) and background in the ATB screen as well. The “non combat” image, then, really just changes the perspective angle slightly and removes the blue dialog boxes. There is some level of validity to your reasoning, though; having not played the game, I’d yield to your judgment. If you think a “non combat” scene is vital to assisting our understanding, then I won’t object to its inclusion. ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 23:01, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

No problem at all; believe me, I appreciate the questions. I think it’s important for these articles to have a "packaging" image, as it provides “real world” reference and identification for people unfamiliar with the game (i.e. people like me). We can nerdily say, “hey, I saw that thing at Best Buy!” Actually, a case could probably be made for using a packaging image (whether it’s the PS or GBA version doesn’t matter, I suppose) in the infobox and axing the title screen.

I’m not terribly keen on the FMV, as it isn’t even terribly clear what’s being depicted. Its stated purpose is to depict “the fictional world of Final Fantasy V, and for no other purpose”. That seems, however, to be what the crystal image is doing. ЭLСОВВОLД _talk 05:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bone Sharps, Cowboys, and Thunder Lizards

I added a sample panel to the characters section: enjoy! :P Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 01:27, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Elder Scrolls

I've become hesitant to involve myself in those materials for the moment. It seems to arouse too much anger from people I don't really want to make angry. Also: do you think it might be better to merge the two into one article, taking the DLC content from the Dev. article, and making a big ol' "Expansions to TES4" article? Then we would muffle Piotrus' old objection to the article's heft while maintaining a more or less sensible definition of what the article should include. I'm not sure what kerfluffles that would create, what with KOT9 being GA and all. (I imagine removing the designation in the merge would be simple enough.) That way we'd have an article we could actually take to FA, rather than one remaining in an awful quasi-state.

It all seems too soon, though, to think of any advance for these articles. Passions are still too high, and the general mood of the Wiki is against it. At present, there seems to be a strong tendency towards a more restrictive reading of Policy and Guideline, to the detriment of any ES candidacy in the near future. Perhaps it would have been possible before the TFA SNAFU. It isn't today. I'm working on Diocletian and Constantine I, which seem to be safe ground. I'd much rather work towards improving the encyclopedia in those areas where I can, than fight some interminable battle against immovable enemies. Thanks for the support, but I think I'm going to have to leave these articles where they are for the present. Geuiwogbil (Talk) 15:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, that makes me feel somewhat better. :) Here's what I wanted to do RE:Merges: take The Elder Scrolls IV: Knights of the Nine, The Elder Scrolls IV: Shivering Isles, and the Downloadable content section in the Development of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion article, and merge them into one "Expansions to The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion" article. Is that feasible? I don't think I'm the first to suggest something along these lines, either. Piotrus objected on the Knights of the Nine FAC because he felt that it wasn't big enough, so it might encourage people who would otherwise pass over the article thinking it too small. Anyways, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the matter. Thanks again! Geuiwogbil (Talk) 07:26, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Multiple FAC noms

Please see the instructions at WP:FAC regarding multiple noms; I withdrew Metroid (series) because you still have two nominations running that have unresolved issues. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:27, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ofermod (band)

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[edit] Zelda Instruments

Hi! I was surprised that the decision was delete, not merge, but that's fine - I figure the admins know what they're doing. Nevertheless, I was thinking as a result of the discussion that it would be good to see a Music of Zelda page developed. One of the side effects of researching the topic was that I found the instruments to be a subtopic of the wider discussion, and that Zelda has had a lot of impact within the area of video game music. It should have been obvious, I supposed, but music isn't really my area of expertise. Anyway, it seems to me that there is enough material for a potential GA. Does that seem like a reasonable way forward? Or do you have other suggestions?

I find this interesting, as I only started editing due to WP:SOFIXIT - if I come across valid material when thinking about an AfD, I'm obligated to do what I can to add it. :) But the topic looks interesting after all. - Bilby (talk) 05:02, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if this will help: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Songs from The Legend of Zelda series (for userfying). I originally wanted to help in developing a Zelda Music page similar to Music of Kingdom Hearts, but I am way too busy with other wiki stuff. This note doesn't need a reply. – sgeureka ^t•c 09:28, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Would you still be rational if you were waterboarded?

Thanks for being a level-headed editor in the midst of insults in the discussion about whether Waterboarding should be a featured article. [1] And please forgive my tongue-in-cheek heading. Right now I'm getting weary of this debate, and am on the point of lashing out, which means it's time for me to quit for now. You either wisely resisted lashing back right away, or took a break and then resisted lashing back. In any case, yours is the type of response I'd like to see more of on Wikipedia. Thanks! Wakedream (talk) 06:29, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: The Legend of Zelda (series)

Sure, but it may be a day or two before I get a chance to. I've been pretty busy lately. I was planning on getting Halo (series) up to FA because I thought it would be easier, but The Legend of Zelda (series) was next on my list of series I want to get to FA. If you're going to start on it, I can try to and work both if time permits. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 18:50, 11 March 2008 (UTC))

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[edit] Dr. Eggman's flying fortresses

Hi. I've just put Dr. Eggman's flying fortresses up for AFD, and I'd like to know whether the content of List of Dr. Eggman's vehicles was similar enough to justify speedy deletion under CDS G4. Would it be possible to get a userified copy of the deleted page for comparison? Percy Snoodle (talk) 15:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, getting the nominator and closing admin confused. Ignore me! Percy Snoodle (talk) 15:29, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Roman Catholic Church

There is a revote on the FA leave comments page of this article. You are invited to reexamine the article and either confirm or deny your previous support vote by voting again. Thanks. NancyHeise (talk) 08:14, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA Nom for Roman Catholicism in Bhutan

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[edit] AfD nomination of Ofermod (band)

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[edit] Music of FF project

Hey, thanks for the suggestion. I'm planning on doing music of FFX-2 after I finish up X, which is almost done. After that, maybe I'll start on one of those two. --PresN (talk) 17:41, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

I'll work on FFXI and TA next then- I'm doing III right now, though I've finished up most of the grunt work and it's just finding sources for reception/development now. Shouldn't be too hard to get those two to start class- that's mainly just cleaning it up/adding a few sources. My plan is to eventually get all of the articles linked in the navbox to GA, then to see if any of them can be taken higher for an FT. The problem with making FA is that a lot of the sources I have are a bit... sketch, mainly in the reception section, as not many professional sites review video game albums. Also, I need a lot more development info. Maybe the later FF games, though... Well, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. --PresN (talk) 16:04, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the Barnstar! --PresN (talk) 23:57, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FFV

Maybe I can help - specially after all you included somewhere... igordebraga ≠ 20:46, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Musical instruments from The Legend of Zelda series

You know, I think I really screwed up that AfD close. I'm not sure that was a delete. It probably should have been a merge. I've moved it back into the encyclopedia. I hope that you can help take charge of getting it merged appropriately. - Philippe | Talk 04:17, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

If you want to go with merge then I'm happy to help, but I'd probably do it over a few days, as I think it may need to be merged with multiple articles. - Bilby (talk) 04:30, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Swimming World Swimmers of the Year

Could you swing by the FLRC page and take a look please? Thanks, Blnguyen (vote in the photo straw poll) 05:38, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] About TTN talk page

What the hell?

"The parties are instructed to cease engaging in editorial conflict and to work collaboratively to develop a generally accepted and applicable approach to the articles in question. They are warned that the Committee will look very unfavorably on anyone attempting to further spread or inflame this dispute."

"Wikipedia users are expected to behave reasonably, calmly, and courteously in their interactions with other users; to approach even difficult situations in a dignified fashion and with a constructive and collaborative outlook; and to avoid acting in a manner that brings the project into disrepute. Unseemly conduct, such as personal attacks, incivility, assumptions of bad faith, trolling, harassment, disruptive point-making, and gaming the system, is prohibited."

Really great job on being polite about this, Judge. Because obviously anyone who disagrees with the mass-merging of articles, even in instances when sources are presented, is "ignorant and malicious".Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 07:44, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Good for them. As has been said plenty of times, other stuff exists. Whether or not he was right in many cases, whether or not the other editors are wrong, his behavior was often unacceptable, and it's not helpful at all to keep on demonizing those who disagree with you. Are you really suggesting it's only "malicious" and "idiotic" amateurs who have ever disagreed with you on these matters?

On a side note, the whole "Illuminati"/"High priests of Order" vibe you guys are projecting is quite disturbing, and seems a mite bit elitist.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 21:30, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm actually dealing with that exact problem on a different wiki, having the other main admin call me a tyrant for trying to copyedit, and I don't call him a malicious idiot. So far, I've politely asked him to specify what edits I've misdone, and sought compromise. This here, this demonization, is the primary reason "ArbCom jumped on [his] back" - yes, his edits got disruptive, but it was the fact that he made a lot of them into mud-slinging matches that got him in real trouble.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 22:23, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

No, I get that both of you are good editors - but TTN wasn't forced to leave, and the shoe isn't only on one foot (is that the idiom?) Sorry if I sounded overly aggressive, but your comment just seemed to be exacerbatory, not helpful, and putting it on TTN's talk page wasn't a good decision.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 22:45, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Relax, both of you. Leave the dead horse be. I'm sure you both have better things to be doing. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 22:50, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Very true...by the way, anyone want to vote at Metroid (series)? I keep fixing it up, and haven't gotten a Support or Oppose yet :) Judgesurreal777 (talk) 22:53, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:AFD Notification

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		Thank you for the afd notification. Although I doubt very much that the page will be kept, and will feel sorry to see it go, it is nice to be kept in the loop on such matters. TomStar81 (Talk) 19:32, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

In a borad sense the reliable sources here are the games themselves, as one plays through the games details on characters adn thier histories are made know to the player. Information could also be gleened through the game manuals, but I am not sure how much can be found in the manuals nor am I sure how useful the information found would be. Thats not much help, but perhaps its a good place to start. TomStar81 (Talk) 21:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Pokémon/index

Thanks for your work on that page. I was about to go sort through the section called Other, but I saw you already did it. Good work. Useight (talk) 17:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, there still some work to do to get the rest of the articles into the list. I'm going to move a couple individuals from the section called Pokémon to the Developers/Actors/Creators section, such as Ken Sugimori, if you don't mind. I think they fit there better. Useight (talk) 17:39, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

On a side note, are there really only 2 administrators that are part of WikiProject Pokémon? That seems extraordinarily low. Useight (talk) 17:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, there aren't any FA at all, and only about 4 GA, if I remember correctly. I'm working to get Pikachu up to FA status, any help would be greatly appreciated. Useight (talk) 17:45, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Clarification

Hi Judge! Just to avoid possible misunderstanding: If this comment refers to my request not to rehash the waterboarding debate on my talk page, please not that I'm quite ready to discuss the issue - I just want it discussed on talk:Waterboarding, so that the discussion is available to other interested parties. If it did not refer to that situation, please ignore this remark.

In either case, my willingness to discuss is somewhat theoretical. It's past midnight here, and I'm about to go to bed. ;-) --Stephan Schulz (talk) 23:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Respond to Judgesurreal777

Yep I know, I'm working on the citations now. The backlog is huge on WP:GAN and I'd rather get it in rather than forget to nominate it, which is something that would be likely to happen with me. All citations will be filled in within an hour. Gary King (talk) 17:56, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! It's interesting to see that out of the dozen or so articles I've help build to WP:FA, WP:FL, or WP:GA status, Star Wars has gotten the most recognition by far, understandably. Gary King (talk) 17:59, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] April 1st

		The Barnstar of Good Humour
		For responding in kind to a dubious FA candidate. Featured stubs should be here to stay :) --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 16:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Zelda

Interesting; might I ask why you want to see Zelda II become a WP:GA so badly? :) Gary King (talk) 23:07, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

For your merger proposal at The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past could you start a new section on the Talk page and link the merge tag to there please? Personally, I object to a merge because I do not think that the article should have a list of characters on it. The Characters article exists to contain a list of characters and a brief summary of each, whereas the main article I would prefer to keep it in prose form as much as possible. Gary King (talk) 18:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I guess we both typed at the same time. I'll continue the discussion at your newly created section. Gary King (talk) 18:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Talk:The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Phantom_Hourglass#GA_Review. Gary King (talk) 19:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] hey man

i cited my sources for the zelda update, put it back, its true and I founded it first. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.96.7 (talk) 02:24, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair enough...

Although, there isn't really a need to have a excess of articles for such things when you can just post them in the already existing wiki page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.96.7 (talk) 02:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sahasrahla

I meant that he's a descendant of different sages, the ones who forged the Master Sword, not the ones who sealed Ganon. Thanks, though.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 02:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Response

Thanks for your comment; I have explained the flaws in your reasoning on my talkpage. Regards, Skomorokh 17:14, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Would you like to help at the Strategy Wiki? It's a video game guide website. RobJ1981 (talk) 21:04, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Any game you know a lot about, you could help with the guide for that game. RobJ1981 (talk) 18:26, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

You know the website link, right? I use this name there as well, so contact me there if you need any help. RobJ1981 (talk) 19:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 24: The Game GAR

Many thanks for taking the time to review this article for GA. I've responded on the article's talk page, which I hope addresses your concerns. Any questions, please let me know. Many thanks! Gazimoff (talk) 21:17, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bait received

Haha, I might have to take you up on that offer. I don't know if I can locate enough material to salvage the Mother article (at least not right now). I can most certainly rewrite the Mother 3 article, though. Despite only being released in Japan, a surprisingly large amount of information has trickled in. I might investigate this one... : ) -- Noj r (talk) 21:57, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] J.R.R. Tolkien

You might want to take a look at the last four edits on J. R. R. Tolkien. An IP account vandalized the article. Another IP account undid the vandalism. You reverted the second IP account (the one that reverted vandalism), thus restoring the vandalism, and then left a warning on the second IP's talk page. User:Deor then had to revert you (deleting the vandalism) and tell the second IP to ignore your warning. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) ^{(talk / cont)} 01:22, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem, just wanted to make sure you were aware of what happened. Best. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) ^{(talk / cont)} 01:24, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Metroid

I'll take a look at it. Ever since I placed my name under CVG reviewers, I've been deluged with PR requests. I'm a little preoccupied at the moment, so I'll take a look at it at an opportune time and report at the PR page. bibliomaniac 15 Hey you! Stop lazing around and help fix this article instead! 01:54, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I've reviewed it. By the way, I think you should ask User:Igordebraga to review your article as well. bibliomaniac 15 Hey you! Stop lazing around and help fix this article instead! 02:21, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of The Bellflower Bunnies episodes

Hi. While this is still going on, I am constantly making final improvements on the list for a little known French/Canadian children's cartoon called The Bellflower Bunnies. I think I am the only Wikipedian who knows so much, so far, about the show and its original book series material.

I'm also willing to submit this as an FLC soon. Tell me what you think of the page, and I'll address concerns.

Also, would you please consider looking at "Some Enchanted Evening," a Simpsons episode? --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 01:59, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Zelda II: The Adventure of Link

I nominated The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass for WP:GAN and you reviewed it a few days ago. I was wondering if you could look at Zelda II: The Adventure of Link and review it as well? The nomination is at Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations#Video_games. Thanks in advance! Gary King (talk) 03:47, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Just FYI I'm working through your list. I'll try and be done in an hour. Hopefully you'll be around to review it again. Oh, also, this article is a pain in the ass because it's probably one of the lesser known games of the series and the one with the lowest ratings of the entire series, I think. Gary King (talk) 05:18, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

You are absolutely right :) Judgesurreal777 (talk) 05:19, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Zelda_II:_The_Adventure_of_Link#Zelda_II_GA_review Gary King (talk) 05:37, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Star Wars

Hot damn – I feel like the editors that I have bumped into a few times over the past few days are crawling over this one article. I've already got a few notifications about rebooting the Featured Topic. I'll do so right away! :) Gary King (talk) 04:36, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

First time nominating a featured topic. There are quite a lot of steps involved! Glad that's done though. Hopefully it goes through :) Gary King (talk) 04:45, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Chocobo Racing

I think you already noticed, but I went and found you some refs for the audio section. I'll poke about and see if there's anything else I can do there. --PresN (talk) 22:11, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past & Four Swords

Since you've been so helpful with Zelda articles so far, I'd like your thoughts on The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past & Four Swords. Specifically, I'd like to improve it to WP:GA status, but it's tough with this one because it's simply an addon to a previous game (A Link to the Past). The problem with this article is that it can't follow the standard video game convention since it's not one. So I'm finding any possible information I can add to it. Gary King (talk) 22:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll take a look—although text is always better than video for me, but I'll take what I can get. Gary King (talk) 19:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

For Talk:The_Legend_of_Zelda:_A_Link_to_the_Past#Four_Swords_merger, could you point me to a game that is similar, meaning one that has a spinoff game but the spinoff is described in the main article rather than a separate article? I'll look to that for help. Gary King (talk) 21:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: List of unrecognized countries

Vatican City is generally recognized as being a sovereign state, but is not a member of the United Nations. in the article's lead. Gary King (talk) 01:22, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Thanks and such

Thanks for the medal! As for the Link's Awakening ref questions you posed earlier, I'm fairly sure they are all notable. zelda.com is the official zelda site, same with nintendo.co.jp (regional); the japanese are harder to determine, but they popped up referenced in other pages, so I'm going to say they are. ZeldaElements.net is a fan site, however it does have a legal disclaimer, staff page, and so I would say is safely under the umbrella of a site such as HBO, or close to it. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 01:46, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Got time for a WP:GAN?

Since you've reviewed some of my nominated articles for WP:GA before, I was wondering if you had time to review other articles that I've nominated. They aren't video game-related, unfortunately, though. They are: Flag of Canada (nomination) and Michigan State Spartans (nomination). If you could review one of them, or even both, that'd be superb! :) If not, then that's okay too, since they're both outside of the video game realm, anyways. Thanks! Gary King (talk) 03:10, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I will reassess those Featured Topics. I suppose that not all articles can ever be in a Featured Topic, as the scope for some are just too great to make it a feasible option. Gary King (talk) 03:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm curious about Michigan State University FT, though. For instance, at Wikipedia:Featured topic removal candidates/Michigan State University, someone says that Michigan State Spartans football should be included, but doesn't that technically fall under Michigan State Spartans? I think it's implied that the Featured Topic includes the 'top-level' articles rather than every article under the Michigan State University umbrella, just like how the Star Wars FT includes only the episodes (although fortunately, the Star Wars FT has a more easier time with it because they are called episodes, whereas MSU doesn't have that luxury). Gary King (talk) 03:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Since you are more experienced than I am at FT, could you take a look at the ones on my user page at User:Gary King#Not_nominated and tell me what articles are missing from which topics? Or, feel free to edit the topics yourself. Gary King (talk) 04:03, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I think it's time your talk page was archived. Also, it's many times more easier to create a featured topic for topics that purposely have a well-defined series, like video games, since the publishers set these. As for other ones like Microsoft and Apple, I guess those are up for debate at the end of the day, and will ultimately be passed or failed by consensus since there's no clear distinction. Gary King (talk) 04:21, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: World of Mario RPG

To be quite honest, it's been so long since I messed with the article I don't remember which citation went with what information. :-P So I don't know if I have the time to go through the references again. I'm still struggling to make time for Halo (series), the VG newsletter, and the how-to guide. I would like to finish it up though; either get it to GA or merge it. I'll try to get to it when I get some more free time, until then, there might be an editor in a better position to get it fixed up. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 14:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC))

[edit] RE: EarthBound

Thanks for the encouragement and yeah its totally fine if you nominate EarthBound for GA. I'll archive the peer review since its been a while. Right now I'm trying to get System Shock 2 to FA. It should be reviewed in the really soon after which I will nominate for FA, and I think it has a pretty good shot at passing. -- Noj r (talk) 22:49, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] VG NewsLetter

The Wikipedia:WikiProject Video Games Newsletter

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter
Volume I, No. 1 - April 9, 2008

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[edit] Request for adminship

Heya, just an FYI I have been nominated for adminship at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Gary King and would appreciate your input. Cheers! Gary King (talk) 07:28, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CD-i Zelda

I'm quite sorry, but the site where I found the Faces and Wand manuals didn't have the Adventure manual for some reason. We'll have to find another way to fill that section out. Cat's Tuxedo (talk) 20:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Zelda II: The Adventure of Link

I just wanted to recommend a site (page) for Nintendo screenshots. A while back I was on the Mega Man II page and saw an external link for Mega Man II screenshots at NintendoNerds.com. I looked at the screenshots page and I was actually pretty surprised. The page was put together well and had over 100 screenshots of Mega Man II. Anyway, I was wanted to recommend an external link for Zelda II screenshots to be added to the Zelda II page from the NintendoNerds.com website. It's located at:

www.nintendonerds.com/NES/ZeldaII/screenshots.htm

I just think it would be a great addition to the Zelda II page since the are no direct links on that page for screenshots. Plus there are over 100 screenshots as well.

70.63.196.108 (talk) 12:54, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/List of UEFA club competition winning managers

Just wanted to let you know I've restarted my FTC above, the list which was missing is now added and is a featured list. All the best. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:33, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Super Smash Bros. (series)

God, if I have a reputation to maintain... ;) Sure, I'll see about reviewing it tonight. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 19:21, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Martha Logan

Hello there. I just wanted to ask, are you interested in joining the 24 Wikiproject? If you are, could you send me a message on my talk page? I could really use your input. Also, could you have a look at the Martha Logan article, and tell me what you think of it? Cheers, Steve Crossin (talk) (anon talk) 21:18, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Whenever you are ready :) I know you're good at reviewing articles, you can reply here if it would be easier. :) Oh, I'm the 24 project co-ordinator now, I'm doing my best to improve the project. Steve Crossin (talk) (anon talk) 21:53, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Um, regarding your suggestion to change the lead image..could I ask why? Generally, we have been using the promotional photos made by FOX, but if you have an idea as to why we should change the lead image, I'd be happy to discuss it with you. Our current goal for the article is GA, do you really think it could get to FA? Thanks for your help again. I also rewrote the Day 6 plot, do you think it's better worded? Cheers, Steve Crossin (talk) (anon talk) 23:44, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: My Vision

Ooh...pretty.... I like it a lot! It inspires me a lot to see it all laid out like that- especially after I see that if I get MoFF12 to FA, we have a FF12 FT. Oh, and I started a sandbox here for the upcoming List of compilation albums. I'm not sure if the name is going to stick, though- the article is going to be right on the line between an article and a list, with the amount of text it will need, after reception and such. The original stub articles were atrocious, though- it takes a lot of deep breathing before I can start on any one section of that mess. It'll be nice to redirect all of those articles in a week or so, making the project that much neater and tidier. --PresN (talk) 04:43, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

My current plan is to make FF12 FA and the List of compilations an FL. After that... I'd like to make them all FA, of course, but, especially for the earlier ones, it's going to be tough. There's just not enough interviews and reviews out there. Maybe FF10. --PresN (talk) 06:41, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Featured article review/Barack Obama/archive3

I am at a complete loss as to why you closed this FAR without making the article a featured article removal candidate. Notwithstanding that the FAR turned into a slugfest, the article has serious issues in that it's manifestly unstable, in dire need of cleanup (see SandyGeorgia's edits at the end), and has needed frequent protection. This should not be a featured article and I would urge you to reconsider. Stifle (talk) 08:52, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I didn't close it, as I am not a Featured article or Featured article review director; please direct your comments to User:Joelr31, thanks. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 14:29, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Done. Sorry, got confused with all the postings there. Stifle (talk) 14:45, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:Icarus2.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:Icarus2.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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[edit] The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures

Could you take a look at the article, and if you have time, review it for the nominated WP:GAN? It might not be as good as my other Zelda games because I've almost gotten sick of Zelda after running so many of those articles through WP:GAN :) But, let me know what needs improvements to reach WP:GA and I will gladly respond. Cheers! Gary King (talk) 05:55, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Should be all done now. Gary King (talk) 17:40, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

d Gary King (talk) 18:28, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/The Legend of Zelda titles :D Gary King (talk) 18:46, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Featured topic article total

D'oh! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 16:01, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

To be fair, I mislabelled the count for the Star Wars topic as 6 rather than 7, so your addition was only off by one, not by two. :P --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 16:16, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Vision

Hey. I'm not really around anymore, but do what you feel is best. — Deckill er 16:00, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Time to hand out 'teh shinies

		The WikiProject Halo Heroic Barnstar
		For your work at improving the quality of Halo-related stubs, barnstar for you! --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 23:48, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Thanks for saving StarCraft!

Thanks muchly! Three barnstars in a month, from none last month! -- Sabre (talk) 18:41, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] IMDB News links

Please stop removing links to news stories published on the IMDB, as you have done on several Star Wars film pages. While some editors believe that individual IMDB *film* pages to be unreliable (and not to be used as factual references), the news entries there are published by reliable sources - namely StudioBriefing and World Entertainment News Network. These entries are not user-generated content, and in many cases are usually sourced to other major news sources. You are in error in removing those references. TheRealFennShysa (talk) 23:16, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FAC

Hey Judge, since you're an editor with much interest and experience in video games (and I owe you one for Metroid Prime), can you take a look at this Zelda FAC? igordebraga ≠ 17:28, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Halo (series)

Thanks for the reply. I'll look over the FUR when I get a chance, and I didn't put the article up for FA since I definitely agree with you about making sure the sections can functions as lead-ins for FTs, and the subject as a whole, rather than just a list of Halo stuff. Hopefully I'll have time soon after AP exams to take a stab at it.. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 19:15, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Requesting Good Article review

Hey, you passed a few of my Zelda-related video game articles as Good Articles a few weeks ago, and if you have time, I was wondering if you could take a look at Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, a video game article, and review it for GA, too. Thanks in advance! Gary King (talk) 04:02, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Done at User_talk:Gary_King#Sure.21 Gary King (talk) 13:04, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Metroid_Prime_3:_Corruption#GA_On_Hold Gary King (talk) 20:26, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

Could you please check to see if your concerns have been addressed at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess? Thanks! Gary King (talk) 19:26, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

All but one, which is not crucial but would be cool. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 19:40, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

How about now? igordebraga ≠ 01:23, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Middle-earth categories

Hi there. Thanks for the notice about the categories. I found a few more discussions. Could you look at my reply at User_talk:Carcharoth#Middle-earth_CfD_nominations, and the notice at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Middle-earth#Categories_for_deletion, and add any that I missed? In general, I'm happy to reorganise and adapt what we do based on the discussions. My main comment is at this discussion. Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 07:28, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I need to understand something

I know this is dredging up an old issue, but I still don't get it, and I need to understand. Why do articles that have some out-of-universe relevance, such as Mythical creatures in Harry Potter, get deleted while articles that have to do with Middle Earth, Dungeons and Dragons, Star Wars or Warhammer 40,000 get to sprawl all over Wikipedia with every minute in-universe detail given its own article? The article on the Lightsaber tops 47 K, but if I wanted to create a similar article on magic wands in Harry Potter, I'm sure you'd cry deletion faster than I could type. I don't find this particularly fair. Serendi ^pod ous 14:31, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

I have officially given up on your policy. I have just discovered that Lightsaber combat has successfully survived 4 deletion attempts, despite having no inline citations, no real life relevance and virtually no in-universe relevance. I have come to the conclusion, which I have already suspected for some time, that which in-universe articles are labeled fancruft and which are considered valid is largely a function of whether nerds like it. Serendi ^pod ous 17:48, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Martha Logan

Thanks for doing this. By the way, what do you think of the article? Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 18:25, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm about to upload a new image for Season 6, the current one is not significant, so doesn't meet the criteria of NFCC. Right now, I'm doing a lot for the project, I'd invite you to have a thorough look around the project, it's rather elaborate, and I've set up a section for merger discussions. All of it is at WP:24. Our current Article Improvement Drive is Chase Edmunds, I'd like to get it to B class. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 18:31, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The WPVG Newsletter (May 2008)

The Wikipedia:WikiProject Video Games Newsletter

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter
Volume I, No. 2 - May 7, 2008

Archive before | Archive After

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Project at a Glance

As of 2008-05-06, the project has:

206 Good Articles
1 article in Good Article Review
13 articles for Peer review
1 article for Assessment

Changes to Featured and Good articles, lists, and topics in April

Promoted FA/FL:

Guitar Hero, List of songs in Guitar Hero, List of songs in Guitar Hero II, Halo: Contact Harvest, Age of Empires

Topic:

None

Demoted FA/FL:

None

Demoted GA:

Air (visual novel), SimCity (series)

Promoted GA:

24: The Game, Chocobo Racing, Crackdown, Crush 40, Dynasty Warriors 4, Geneforge, Gravemind, Guitar Hero (series), Half-Life (video game), Martin O'Donnell, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Music of Final Fantasy III, Music of Final Fantasy VI, Music of Final Fantasy X-2, Music of Final Fantasy XII, Resident Evil: Apocalypse, Resident Evil: Extinction, Sega Mega Drive, Super Smash Bros. (series), StarCraft: Ghost, System Shock 2, The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures, The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, Warhawk (PlayStation 3 game), Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, CD-i games from the Legend of Zelda series, Xbox 360, Voices of the Lifestream

News

There were 256 new articles in April 2008

Current proposals and discussions

Well, gee, thanks 1up!
1UP.com has recently changed their rating scale. A list of affected articles can be found here. See discussion for details.
- About 14% of the articles on the list have been checked and updated.
Inactive project cleanup
Proposal to consolidate inactive projects and taskforces. Project page can be found here.
- WikiProject Warcraft and WikiProject StarCraft have been switched into Warcraft task force and StarCraft task force under the VG Project.
- WikiProject TimeSplitters has been deleted.

Feature

Writing about Gameplay

The Gameplay section is a crucial component of a good video game article. Although it may be relatively easy for an experienced gamer to write such a section, care must be taken to maintain an appropriate focus and balance. The section should be written for readers with little or no knowledge of video gaming and should not be filled with detailed information about weapons, levels, or other such topics that are only of interest to the video gamer or that might be found in a game guide. Your goal for crafting a good section is to have people who have never picked up the game understand the basic mechanics. Do note, however, that it's safe to assume the reader has at least a minor knowledge of what a video game is.

This section often begins the body text after the lead, but is sometimes placed after the Plot section. Games with little or no story can cover the plot in the Gameplay section. When writing about a game, use your head and common sense about the ordering. Generally, start off with a broad stroke—is the game a RTS or an FPS, etc. Don't talk about why the gameplay is like it is; generally, that is better placed in the 'Development' section later on in the article.

Images can be added to better illustrate some aspects of gameplay. Generally, a single screenshot will suffice. Because of screenshots are non-free content, usage should be minimalised. Multiple images can be used, but all images should add something to the article beyond what the prose states. All non-free images require a fair use rationale to be used on Wikipedia.

Things to remember

Don't add in cruft about weapons, levels, and minute details of trivia; gameplay sections should serve as a primer to the game, not an exhaustive list of every facet of the game.
Don't use gaming jargon which can be confusing to readers, such as "NPC" or "MMORPG". If you use these terms, state the full name and the abbreviation the first time it appears. For example, "Halo is a first-person shooter, or FPS."
Wikilink! So you don't have to describe what a god game is, link it.
Talk about what makes the game different from others; if you only talk about why StarCraft is a real-time strategy game, then readers could just visit the article about the game genre and be better served.

Things you can help with:

Peer review: Video game, Crash of the Titans, Xbox Live Arcade, List of Final Fantasy compilation albums, Metal Gear Solid, Shigeru Miyamoto, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess‎, Myst III: Exile, Blade Runner, Zanac

Cleanup: List of characters from The King of Fighters, Hellgate: London, LeChuck

Featured article candidates: List of songs in Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s (FLC), Crackdown, Halo (series), List of Sega 32X games (FLC), Alleyway

Good article nominations: Ayu Tsukimiya, Music of the Final Fantasy Tactics series, Super Smash Bros., Music of Final Fantasy XI, Day of Defeat: Source

Article status review: GA Review – None; FA Review – The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, 3D Monster Maze; FT Review – Final Fantasy titles

Articles for Deletion: Participate in video game related deletion discussions.

Images: Add box-art and screenshots to articles. Make sure to include a valid non-free use rationale.

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[edit] AfD nomination of Marcus Fenix

An article that you have been involved in editing, Marcus Fenix, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marcus Fenix. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? ZeroGiga (talk) 09:10, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Half-Life 2: Episode Two for GA

If you've got a chance, could you take a look at Half-Life 2: Episode Two and review it for GA? Cheers! I should also note that a few things are difficult to find, such as sales data, because the game is more like an expansion pack than a full game. Gary King (talk) 08:32, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Expelled

I have too go with reality and state that the film is controversial. If you want to help on the Moore film articles I would greatly appreciate it. The propaganda cat on the other hand is evidence of an extreme bias. If you want to help us fight that I have to warn you that some POV pushing admin might block you. Thanks for the help. Saksjn (talk) 13:11, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Brewsterbox11.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Brewsterbox11.jpg. You've indicated that the image is being used under a claim of fair use, but you have not provided an adequate explanation for why it meets Wikipedia's requirements for such images. In particular, for each page the image is used on, the image must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Can you please check

That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's description page for each article the image is used in.
That every article it is used on is linked to from its description page.

This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --23:07, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GAN on hold

Hey, I wanted to make sure you noticed I put Dictyostelium discoideum on hold a few days ago. Normally, articles are held for a week. Sorry, I should have left you a note right away, if you need more time let me know. delldot on a public computer talk 00:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi again, thanks for the quick reply, I replied on my talk. delldot on a public computer talk 01:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Tag! You're it. :) delldot on a public computer talk 01:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

I would prefer it if you didn't prod my early articles; just redirect them instead. It would be a sign of respect toward a former Wikipedian. Thanks. — Deckill er 03:19, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks!

		RfA: Many thanks
		Many thanks for your participation in my recent request for adminship. I am impressed by the amount of thought that goes into people's contribution to the RfA process, and humbled that so many have chosen to trust me with this new responsibility. I step into this new role cautiously, but will do my very best to live up to your kind words and expectations, and to further the project of the encyclopedia. Again, thank you. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 06:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Abductedreturnhome.jpg}

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[edit] Could you email me?

I want to tell you a few things (nothing bad). I would prefer not to say them here as I know some people would probably take it the wrong way. RobJ1981 (talk) 05:47, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Go to my user page (or my talk page), and go to the left toolbox. Then click on email this user. I don't publicly post my email, as I don't want to recieve spam. RobJ1981 (talk) 01:58, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] fictional things

For Nar Shaddaa and similar fictional things, wouldn't it be better to propose a merge on the talk page & see if it gets accepted? You undoubtedly know better where to merge than I do, otherwise I'd do it. DGG (talk) 13:34, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jurassic Park

I guess it's okay, but I'll have to check with Raul654 before I make any decision. Limetolime ^{talk to me} ^• ^{look what I did!} 21:33, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Clover

I think the article looks good and I'm glad the naming dispute is over. A question: is the monster's gender ever been revealed? Unless we've got confirmation, it should be an "it". Sceptre ^(talk) 01:16, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tolkien/Middle-earth stuff

In the future, could you drop a note here whenever you PROD something? (Everything you PROD so far has been merged/redirected for now, thanks.) Uthanc (talk) 03:33, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sly Cooper Characters

I couldn't help but notice that you flagged a few articles form the Category:Sly Cooper characters for speedy deletion. As far as I can tell, you are right. That said, some of these articles might be notable. Do you think you'd have time to determine which of these articles are clearly non-notable and should be speedily deleted? I would encourage you to do so, and would help keep an eye on the articles if you sent a list back my way. (Of course, don't flag articles that you think have disputable notability.) If you don't have time, I understand as I'm pretty busy myself. Randomran (talk) 22:03, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

If you put together a merge request with a brief list of the character articles, I'd respond in the affirmative. That's a good strategy. Randomran (talk) 22:25, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

...for finding all those Myst articles. :) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 18:06, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Cool. Not sure what to do with Pyst, but the Film group can just be merged into the series article w/ the film adaptation. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 18:44, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] character articles

I agree with your comment elsewhere that a merge is always preferred to a deletion if feasible--provided one actually does get consensus, demonstrated on the talk page. And in case there's no agreement there we do need some better way of handing deciding on the validity of a particular merge--though I am very reluctant to propose further bureaucracy. I'll be glad to work with you on a rational approach this. DGG (talk) 19:49, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

I'm intrigued why you removed the GA tags for this article and left a comment that there wasn't a review. There is link on that page to the review here. HolomorphicHamster (talk) 01:29, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I can't see anywhere in the GAN instructions that says the review has to be on the talk page, the review seems comprehensive, so I think the GA should stand. HolomorphicHamster (talk) 02:00, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I just reviewed this article and promoted this article as a part of the GA review. The GA review notification provides a link to where I had assessed the article. I assessed the article on my subpage, because 1.) I don't want edit conflicts while assessing the article 2.) It's a better way of seeing issues which need to be addressed. I also placed that notification on the talk page. I noticed today that you felt the need of asking the GA reviewer to not promote the article on the basis of the article not including a theater program. I responded, that I would not consider it, since most universities on Wikipedia do not mention their theater program. However, consensus has agreed that a theater program was not required, and by all means you can create one. After I passed the GA, you then took it upon yourself to delist the GA, which subsequently messed up the bot. Whenever a GA reviewer has stated that he/she wouldn't assess based on your statement, and consensus has agreed with the reviewer, do not revert the reviewer's decision of promoting the article, even though he/she has provided a link of his/her assessment. Thank you. miranda 02:40, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Please do not revert the closing of a GAR. The instructions clearly state that GAR's can be closed in less than 7 days subject to the consensus of a review involving at least five editors. You may have to click "show" to reveal the instructions. I have closed the review again, and the result is a clear kept. LostOldPassword (talk) 03:51, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] M Continuum

An attempt was made to merge M Continuum with Q Continuum but the information was removed because the M Continuum is only mentioned in one Star Trek novel. Therefore, a better redirect is to that novel, I, Q. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 15:09, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mergers and depopulating categories

Good Morning Judge. If I have forgotten to complete any other mergers that I have suggested, please remind me to carry them out rather than proposing/nominating for deletion.

Following WP:AGF, I assume that you depopulated category:Star Trek materials by mistake? - Fayenatic (talk) 12:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The WPVG Newsletter (June 2008)

The Wikipedia:WikiProject Video Games Newsletter

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter
Volume I, No. 3 - June 4, 2008

Archive before Archive After

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Project at a Glance

As of 2008-06-04, the project has:

208 Good Articles
0 articles in Good Article Review
10 articles for Peer review

Changes to Featured and Good articles, lists, and topics

Promoted FA/FL:

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, List of acquisitions by Electronic Arts, List of Harvest Moon titles, Riven, Myst,

Topic:

Characters of Halo, The Orange Box

Demoted FA/FL:

Devil May Cry series (FT)

Promoted GA:

Air (visual novel), Crash Boom Bang!, Driving Emotion Type-S, Einhänder, Half-Life 2: Episode Two, Metal Gear Solid, Off-Road Velociraptor Safari, Team Fortress 2, Grand Theft Auto (series), Kratos (God of War), History of video game consoles (seventh generation)

Demoted GA:

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, Sonic the Hedgehog (character), Cloud Strife, Super Smash Bros.

News

There were 203 new articles in May 2008

Current proposals and discussions

Well, gee, thanks 1up!
1UP.com has recently changed their rating scale. A list of affected articles can be found here. See discussion for details.
- About 28% of the articles on the list have been checked and updated.
Inactive project cleanup
Proposal to consolidate inactive projects and taskforces. Project page can be found here.
- WikiProject Dragon Quest has been redirected to WP:VG.
- WikiProject Massively multiplayer online games Guild Wars task force has been deleted.

Interested in a specific video game series or company? Check out some of our task forces to help improve the related articles.

Feature

Writing about Development

Development content is very important to include in an encyclopedic video game article. It provides a history of how the game came to be and provides real world information needed for an article to claim comprehensiveness. However, writing this section can be difficult because the amount and type of information available will vary for each game. One of the best sources for such information is a developer interview. These can provide insight into the thought process of the designers and give examples of influences and obstacles encountered. Previews can also be helpful by giving a snap shot of the game before it was released and may mention development issues that were still being addressed.

When writing about development, common sense should be used to organize content to maintain a sense of flow for the reader. Most times, it is best to give the information in a somewhat chronological order—though information can also be grouped by topics like audio, promotion, graphics, etc. If one such topic gets large enough, it can be split off into its own subsection or regular section. For example, Kingdom Hearts#Audio is a separate section from the rest of the development information because it focuses on the game's musical score and voice acting. Portal (video game)#Soundtrack, however, does not have as much content and is a subsection of the main development section.

What to include about development

Who are the developers? Which company or studio developed the game, and are there any prominent designers involved?
When did development begin?
When and where was the game first announced? (e.g. Tokyo Game Show, E3 Media and Business Summit, etc.)
What influenced the game's story, characters, music, and/or gameplay ? (e.g. past games, movies, books, etc.)
Were there any delays?
Was anything excluded because of time or technological constraints? (e.g. extra levels, game modes, characters, story arcs, etc.)

Things to remember

Avoid proseline. Though maintaining a sense to chronology is important, this section should not read like an ordered list of events.
Images in this section should be relevant to the information given and should add on to it.
Source everything to avoid information being tagged as original research.

Things you can help with:

Peer review: Video game, Crash of the Titans, Xbox Live Arcade, List of Final Fantasy compilation albums, Metal Gear Solid, Shigeru Miyamoto, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess‎, Myst III: Exile, Blade Runner, Zanac

Cleanup: List of characters from The King of Fighters, Hellgate: London, LeChuck

Featured article candidates: List of songs in Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s (FLC), Crackdown, Halo (series), List of Sega 32X games (FLC), Alleyway

Good article nominations: Ayu Tsukimiya, Music of the Final Fantasy Tactics series, Super Smash Bros., Music of Final Fantasy XI, Day of Defeat: Source

Article status review: GA Review – None; FA Review – The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, 3D Monster Maze; FT Review – Final Fantasy titles

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[edit] Lady Aleena talk page blanking

Judgesurreal777...I do not know why you felt it necessary to blank this page. I have those boxes on that page to denote which projects might find what is on the main page useful. If you look closely, there was never any assertion that that page was an article page. All of them are marked as NA with no importance. In the future, please discuss prior to page blanking. - LA @ 00:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Within the WikiProject page classification system, all pages related to the project are included. This includes articles, lists, categories, images, templates, disambiguation pages, redirects, project pages (Wikipedia: space), and even useful user pages. There are so many pages that go into a project and not all of them are articles. - LA @ 13:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mysteria Film Group

This is with regards to your recent elimination of the Mysteria Film Group topic. You had cited that the the article in question was "not notable". Can you cite the appropriate Wikipedia guideline from which you made this decision?

I assert that the article meets the WP:TPA guidelines. It follows the NPOV policy by citing the appropriate reference for each fact presented.

I would like your help in addressing the issues you see in this article, but I need more specific feedback. Which items in the article do you find problematic?

Robert The Rebuilder (talk) 12:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, (sorry to jump in...) a Wikipedia article should "...rely on reliable, published secondary sources" - this article focuses purely on primary sources. _Talk Islander 13:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

The context of that quote is regarding interpretation or analysis of information from a primary source - not as a prohibition of citing primary sources. Likewise, WP:PSTS provides guidelines on citing primary sources, as long as the author makes "no analytic, synthetic, interpretive, explanatory, or evaluative claims about the information".

If you find any such interpretive phrasing in the Mysteriacs article, by all means flag them - and I'll be happy to reword it accordingly. Robert The Rebuilder (talk) 14:30, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Email

Hello. Did you send me an email? I tried replying but got a 'no such user' error. You may want to update your email or send another if you want the reply. The short answer, btw, was no. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 09:50, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

And the help was in the long answer. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 18:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Offer

Why not pick a few articles that you are interested in and would like to see improved and brought to good or featured status and let's work together to do that as I think it would be a rewarding experience for the both of us rather than wasting time in AfDs? Anyway, I think it will help us better work together with greater understanding and colleagiality. Anyway, as I already added you to my List of nice wikipedians (obviously, I find lists relevant), I am wondering if there's something we can colloborate on that we could bring to good or featured status and that could earn you another posting there? Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 21:53, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Help

Ask, and you shall receive. I just made a really simple two-column, for title and release date, but another one for ISBN, author, what have you can be added in. Just tell me what you want. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 00:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Do you think we can get away with adding the covers of the books, or will it be too much non-free stuff? Also, could you add a media type part, like in the halo one? Thanks soooo much! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 00:20, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... prolly would be a violation of WP:NFCC. The way around it, as I see it would be like the Halo media, have a bunch of the books in one shot. The media types in the Halo one is just level three headings, or am I missing what you're talking about? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 00:27, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, here you go:

Name	Release date	Media

Flight from the Dark	1984	(media)
At the Kai Monastery is a young initiate, given the name Silent Wolf. On the feastday of Fehmarn, when all the Kai Lords gather at the monastery, Silent Wolf is sent to cut wood from the surrounding forest as a punishment for his inattention in class. While he is gone, a surprise attack is launched from the Darklands at several places across Sommerlund. The Monastery is assaulted and the gathered Kai Lords massacred. Returning from the woods to find himself the only survivor, Silent Wolf renames himself Lone Wolf and sets out for the capital to inform the King of the loss of the Kai. According to sales figures, this first book sold over 100,000 copies in its first month of publication alone.

Just copy the above code from the edit window and duplicate the portions for more books. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 13:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:Fireonthewater.jpg)

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[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:Skullagarash.jpg)

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