Talk:Juan Díaz de Solís

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Isn't this a duplicate article of Juan Diaz de Solís? User:Dimadick


juan diaz de solis was the captian of the first ship for the spanish that reached the ucatan pinencila



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--69.118.205.45 (talk) 20:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)--~</nowiki> Juan Díaz de Solís reached Río de la Plata but named it "Mar Dulce" (Sweet Sea) or something similar.

I changed some things - Diaz de Solis was not Spanish. He was a Portuguese working for Spain from 1504. I added some references. It still needs quite a bit of work and verification. Damndirtyape

From the Spanish Wikipedia article, it seems that Solis was certainly Spanish, and he might have been born in Portugal or not. It also seems that he sailed for Portugal and left them for French pirates because the money was better, and only later did he sign up with the Spanish crown. It would be interesting to assess how authoritative is the lone reference given, which BTW is by an English author, who has historical reasons to favor Portugal over Spain. elpincha 13:35, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

The Spanish Wikipedia article is wrong. He was not Spanish. There are various primary sources in the Archivo de Indias of Seville referring to him as 'The Portuguese Juan Diaz de Solis'. He was born Joao Dias da Solis in Portugal, and moved to Spain from Portugal in 1504. If you want to verify this, go into the Archivos Españoles en Red. There are many digitized documents relating to Diaz de Solis from the early 1500s. Whether the reference was by an English author is neither here nor there, and it is plain ridiculous to assume that he has some agenda favouring Portugal over Spain. Moreover, Stevenson was a respected cartographic historian, and such allegations have never been hurled at him. You seem to be a lone voice on that one. If, however, you can claim to be an authority of repute yourself, go right ahead and say that - if you can back it up with evidence. Damndirtyape —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.101.5.35 (talk) 20:11, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

It is generally accepted that Juan Díaz de Solís was born in Lebrija, Andalucia, Spain. Regarding the name controversy for the Río de la Plata, it should be noted that it was also known as Río de Solís for some years (see Journal of Inter-American Studies, Vol. 2, No. 3. (Jul., 1960), page 240 [1])Asteriontalk 04:46, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Generally accepted by whom? Evidence is scant and there is no real evidence that he was Spanish. Again, have a look at primary sources.